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GoodGameFil
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 17:19:04
November 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#1
(Wiki)Alt-Tab.Gaming
News on Millenium website
Discuss.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
November 16 2012 17:14 GMT
#2
Sage is teamless now

Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
November 16 2012 17:15 GMT
#3
Hope Sage can find a new team soon, other than that I don't really know much about them.
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 17:55:24
November 16 2012 17:15 GMT
#4
There's a whole post on Millenium that I can translate (it's in french) explaining few of the reasons.
So, here is the french post, and here is an English translation (spoilered cause wall of text)

+ Show Spoiler +


AltTab Gaming's journey ends here.
First of all, this decision is purely financial: we could simply no longer cover the costs of the team. Some of the investors -including the most important one- didn't give us the money he promised and the encouraging results didn't provide enough response from potential sponsors. Some of them still wanted to help us, and I would like to thank them.

Now I should explain why Team Eclypsia's name appears in rumors and posts since yesterday. One month ago, when we understood that we will no longer be able to ensure future deadlines, and that we should announce the end of our team, staff and players (who all worked really hard) OR find a solution that will allow our association to continue its development. That's when we start to study a proposition -even though it was an unofficial one, from Eclypsia.

In order to make sure everybody understood, I will inform you of the biggest terms in this proposition :

-Eclypsia representatives, aware of their several fails in the Starcraft 2 scene, wanted to take the lead of AltTab with a "white card" in order to restore Eclypsia's prestige in France, and in the world. Eclypsia proposed a comfortable enough budget to form a good competitive lineups, from their roster, our roster, and recruitments we were working on. (Some players would have been released from their contract, but everything was done following rules, and we were negociating with them)

-After that, we meet the representatives during Paris Games Week (our french players CENSURE and SonG were there, and part of our staff) . We agreed for a common future, and the contract should have been signed three days later.

During those days, we decide not to close the team, so we can still support players and try an as smoothy transition as possible. When everything seems to be fine (we were already in contact with Eclypsia players) , Eclypsia asked us to wait ten more days (until November, 14th) , a time they needed to get the approval of their financial service.

Indeed, the proposition was done without warranty, and what had to happen happened : yesterday, the contract was cancelled.

This is the end of AltTab Gaming.

Of course, Eclypsia is not responsible of Alt Tab Gaming's financial problems and I can perfectly understand why some projects could be cancelled. This is not an attack against Eclypsia, just an explanation since transparency must be present in Esports
Unfortunately, the unscrupulous methods put the players and the association in an akward spot, since the deadlines and fees generated by the additional month are on AltTab Gaming charge.

Since the association cannot provide those fees, I personnaly commited to the persons concerned, as the owner, to support important and urgents fees, like Sage's return to Korea.

Jeremy Lopès, AltTab Gaming owner

danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 17:17:00
November 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#5
On November 17 2012 02:13 GoodGameFil wrote:
(Wiki)Alt-Tab.Gaming
Discuss.


tl;dr
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#6
Hm, poor Sage, as far as I know he's still in the MoW house, right? I hope he finds a new team soon, though that will be pretty hard considering the many Korean free agents we have right now. Don't know about the other players to be honest.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#7
If they were trying to merge with Eclypsia, maybe they will pick up Sage
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Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
November 16 2012 17:17 GMT
#8
Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)?
Willba
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom209 Posts
November 16 2012 17:18 GMT
#9
On November 17 2012 02:16 ACrow wrote:
Hm, poor Sage, as far as I know he's still in the MoW house, right? I hope he finds a new team soon, though that will be pretty hard considering the many Korean free agents we have right now. Don't know about the other players to be honest.


He left to go back to Korea yesterday I think.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 16 2012 17:20 GMT
#10
On November 17 2012 02:18 Willba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:16 ACrow wrote:
Hm, poor Sage, as far as I know he's still in the MoW house, right? I hope he finds a new team soon, though that will be pretty hard considering the many Korean free agents we have right now. Don't know about the other players to be honest.


He left to go back to Korea yesterday I think.


I think he leaves tomorrow, he plays a LAN in Berlin right now, so he can´t have left already.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
November 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#11
On November 17 2012 02:18 Willba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:16 ACrow wrote:
Hm, poor Sage, as far as I know he's still in the MoW house, right? I hope he finds a new team soon, though that will be pretty hard considering the many Korean free agents we have right now. Don't know about the other players to be honest.


He left to go back to Korea yesterday I think.

Uhm nope, he's in Germany playing in the Acer StarCraft Challenge, already qualified for the grand finals.

TakeTV if you wanna watch the games.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
November 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#12
Yeah Sage tweeted yesterday that he's heading back to Korea today, I guess this explains why. Fingers crossed he can find himself another team soon, I'm a massive fan
@x5_MegaFonzie
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 16 2012 17:23 GMT
#13
On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote:
Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)?

Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#14
You can forget any other pro team than millenium in France (yes even you aAa you are dead now)
Mill is like the big shot,they have money,a stable structure,Sponsors,a gaming house,a nice webtv (as the other guy said it has like 4k viewers for even small french events),they organize cup and everything (MSI procup,Mill house cup...)

The other teams just cannot live under that,they are just too poor and lack spotlight.
(i'm talking in a pro context,if you are semi-pro then they are fine)
RIP MKP
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
November 16 2012 17:37 GMT
#15
Millenium should pick up sage
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
November 16 2012 17:38 GMT
#16
On November 17 2012 02:34 shid0x wrote:
You can forget any other pro team than millenium in France (yes even you aAa you are dead now)
Mill is like the big shot,they have money,a stable structure,Sponsors,a gaming house,a nice webtv (as the other guy said it has like 4k viewers for even small french events),they organize cup and everything (MSI procup,Mill house cup...)

The other teams just cannot live under that,they are just too poor and lack spotlight.
(i'm talking in a pro context,if you are semi-pro then they are fine)


Didn't know Millenium was THAT big. Cool stuff
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
November 16 2012 17:39 GMT
#17
Sage back to NSH would be nice :/
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 16 2012 17:40 GMT
#18
On November 17 2012 02:38 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:34 shid0x wrote:
You can forget any other pro team than millenium in France (yes even you aAa you are dead now)
Mill is like the big shot,they have money,a stable structure,Sponsors,a gaming house,a nice webtv (as the other guy said it has like 4k viewers for even small french events),they organize cup and everything (MSI procup,Mill house cup...)

The other teams just cannot live under that,they are just too poor and lack spotlight.
(i'm talking in a pro context,if you are semi-pro then they are fine)


Didn't know Millenium was THAT big. Cool stuff

From what I've also heard most teams in France except for millenium and the now unfortunately dead aAa were pretty shady as well.
Glorious SEA doto
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
November 16 2012 17:40 GMT
#19
Yeah, I guess it is true for small teams in several countries, and it is kinda sad. But there is not enough sponsors for everyone.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
November 16 2012 17:42 GMT
#20
On November 17 2012 02:23 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote:
Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)?

Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money.

4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.
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