EPTOn November 13 2011 06:42 TheGunrun wrote:
Amanda still hasn't yet been paid for the plane tickets, nor have I been paid back yet for bailing Clive out.
Once everything's resolved I'll provide a timeline of events.
Amanda still hasn't yet been paid for the plane tickets, nor have I been paid back yet for bailing Clive out.
Once everything's resolved I'll provide a timeline of events.
DOX's BLOG IS A GOOD SOURCE OF CONSTANT UPDATES LINK
With all the recent things that have come to light is there any reason why we should support this tournament?
If you don't know what has happened here's a list of things you can read
-Dox (the organizer of the Australian quals for the IPL4 qual) wrote a blogpost about his interactions with Gus and Team AZK(link) and i think this is an important part of the post
Prize Money
I don't think anyone actually knows what the prize money is. Some AZK guys were arguing with me yesterday in SC2SEA chat, saying that the prize money is $7,000-$9,000 USD. But at that very same moment, Allyn was quizzing the crowd live on stream, announcing that the prize is $2,000 USD. So I dunno.
also the part about the HoN tourny(link and the cancellation of the other filipino team's flight to the quals is really important too
-The YoonYJ incident (link) I think the most telling and disgusting part are the facebook messages they exchange.
Just read everything that is in the "Facebook Chat" box and tell me you that Gus deserves to be apart of esports.
-IPL's Message to the community (link)
a real important thing from that I got is that IPL gave these guys money to run a tournament and from a reddit post by David Ting (I'm sorry I can't find it right now) he said that these guys didn't test the stream until an hour before. They gave the illusion of being a professional group and duped the IPL out of money.
I honestly don't think there has been anything this bad to ever happen to the SC2 community before and Gus Ledezma needs to be held accountable. This is truly disgusting
On November 08 2011 15:00 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
TLDR
ppsl qualifiers
- yoonyj was promised a flight and spot as replacement for targa.
- did not materialise. reason was awaiting funds. (ALSO in the contract there was nothing that said that IGN would be paying for the flight)
- ipl states that payments were on schedule.
- moonglade was asked to represent azk and join azk for 3 months in return for spot and flight but he declined.
- azksickness joins azk recently and gets a free spot and flight without having to go through the qualifiers.
- players from filipino team 'Cube' was denied flights.
- both azk players was given walkovers in group e over rixilius and salt who coincidentally are from 'Cube'
ppsl
- audience did not get the vip privileges (interaction with players, autographs, etc) they paid for on day 1 (usd10). ticketing has no clue.
- stream testing only start 1 hour before event. no sound proofing. not enough ram.
- players have no idea what is going on and the brackets.
- hon players that registered for hon tournament arrive and realise there is no hon tournament. s2 funds unaccounted for.
azk
- some azk members are known for their notoriety online. zanooku/ziek banned from bnet forums and sc2sea after numerous counts of trolling and racism.
- negative comments removed from facebook page
TLDR
ppsl qualifiers
- yoonyj was promised a flight and spot as replacement for targa.
- did not materialise. reason was awaiting funds. (ALSO in the contract there was nothing that said that IGN would be paying for the flight)
- ipl states that payments were on schedule.
- moonglade was asked to represent azk and join azk for 3 months in return for spot and flight but he declined.
- azksickness joins azk recently and gets a free spot and flight without having to go through the qualifiers.
- players from filipino team 'Cube' was denied flights.
- both azk players was given walkovers in group e over rixilius and salt who coincidentally are from 'Cube'
ppsl
- audience did not get the vip privileges (interaction with players, autographs, etc) they paid for on day 1 (usd10). ticketing has no clue.
- stream testing only start 1 hour before event. no sound proofing. not enough ram.
- players have no idea what is going on and the brackets.
- hon players that registered for hon tournament arrive and realise there is no hon tournament. s2 funds unaccounted for.
azk
- some azk members are known for their notoriety online. zanooku/ziek banned from bnet forums and sc2sea after numerous counts of trolling and racism.
- negative comments removed from facebook page
Torch + Gunrun on Fuck Slasher
On November 09 2011 07:34 pdd wrote:
Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story):
- Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor.
- venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before)
- internet was slow
- Gus was not around and uncontactabele till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done.
- they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well.
- Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech.
- Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat.
- Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament
- AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun
- Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good.
- TheGunrun: Mineski production/organization/stream (WCG Phillipines qualifiers/Pinoy Gaming Festival) was so much better than this event. This is an isolated event. Please don't hate the Filipinos
- LiviB and CheekyDuck had always been scheduled to cast as far as Torch and TheGunrun knew. And frankly they needed more than 1 set of casters for an event that long.
- Naniwa vs Sen was delayed because it was lagging and there were sound issues (insufficient noise cancellation).
- Torch and TheGunrun are looking to set up a Reddit AMA sometime in the future to clarify some of the accusations and try to shed more light on the fiasco (what is real, what is not)
And that is all I guess. Looks like this Gus guy can't really get out of this mess anymore.
Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story):
- Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor.
- venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before)
- internet was slow
- Gus was not around and uncontactabele till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done.
- they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well.
- Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech.
- Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat.
- Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament
- AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun
- Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good.
- TheGunrun: Mineski production/organization/stream (WCG Phillipines qualifiers/Pinoy Gaming Festival) was so much better than this event. This is an isolated event. Please don't hate the Filipinos
- LiviB and CheekyDuck had always been scheduled to cast as far as Torch and TheGunrun knew. And frankly they needed more than 1 set of casters for an event that long.
- Naniwa vs Sen was delayed because it was lagging and there were sound issues (insufficient noise cancellation).
- Torch and TheGunrun are looking to set up a Reddit AMA sometime in the future to clarify some of the accusations and try to shed more light on the fiasco (what is real, what is not)
And that is all I guess. Looks like this Gus guy can't really get out of this mess anymore.
