• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:59
CET 12:59
KST 20:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview3RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion3Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 104
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1208 users

Good Manner on Ladder

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 34 35 36 Next All
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#1
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D

Xation
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada147 Posts
August 17 2011 02:41 GMT
#2
You are doing a good thing, sir. I shall also attempt to compliment the cheeses that get thrown at me . But in all seriousness, this is what ladder needs.. It's so bm atm.
Liquid HerO bonjwa. Stardust fighting! -Jester 1754
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:43:02
August 17 2011 02:42 GMT
#3
Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>

I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.

Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.

Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#4
On August 17 2011 11:42 Sarang wrote:
Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>

I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.

Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.

Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.


Indeed. In fact, my friend told me to always put "gg wp" but I always forget. >_>

In any case, 2-3 of these guys have messaged me afterward and I've had friendly conversations with them.
All.In
Profile Joined August 2010
United States214 Posts
August 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#5
I always gg out of games haha. I don't understand why the bm has gotten so popular. Children these days!
It is what it is
sOAvoid
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:47:38
August 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#6
"We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like."
Ungrateful
Profile Joined August 2010
United States71 Posts
August 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#7
The thing is pros no longer play As well mannered so that attitude is trickling down.
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 17 2011 02:49 GMT
#8
lol somebody just fake gg'd me and wasted 43 minutes of my time
http://www.last.fm/user/Rahdek
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
August 17 2011 02:50 GMT
#9
Ya your intentions might be great, but saying something along the lines of 'nice timing' might sound angry on the other end. Regardless, good job on trying to add some gm to the ladder.
Personally I feel like 'gg wp' is easy enough to do, and there isn't any wrong way to interpret it.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
August 17 2011 02:51 GMT
#10
I love the marine scv all in, "Nice timing, gg" I have no idea how you do that. I would of put my keyboard though the wall.

I think Day[9] talks about this in his daily about getting into Starcraft II. Since you aren't venting and talking shit and just taking it like a justified loss, you are able to cope with losing a ton easier.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Sorter
Profile Joined July 2011
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:53:56
August 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#11
On August 17 2011 11:47 Ungrateful wrote:
The thing is pros no longer play As well mannered so that attitude is trickling down.


So true, a lot of low level players see Pro-level players BM others and think it's okay to do so. They don't realize that most of it is (usually) taken lightly.

All those instances of good manner sound so sarcastic to me for some reason. You can't really see through the text to their actually intentions though :/
cOoLiD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada168 Posts
August 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#12
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T
Makura
Profile Joined December 2010
United States317 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#13
heh i try to gg every game regardless how bad it was for me and on occasion if something awesome kills me go into a conversation about how well played it was, as far as bad mannering, if someone bm's i usually wait til the game is over in silence then message them after a snide comment and block em ^_^
SHOW THEM WHAT THE CATFISH COMBO IS ALL ABOUT!
Pro]ChoSen-
Profile Joined December 2008
United States318 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#14
People are such babies on ladder... I'm always good manner until my opponent isn't, which is 95% of the time.
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#15
On August 17 2011 11:50 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Ya your intentions might be great, but saying something along the lines of 'nice timing' might sound angry on the other end. Regardless, good job on trying to add some gm to the ladder.
Personally I feel like 'gg wp' is easy enough to do, and there isn't any wrong way to interpret it.


A fair point. I'll probably up the manner (add wp and maybe a happy face or something) to make sure I get the message across. The idea is that people go to such great lengths to BM others, the least I can do is send a nice little message complementing others on things they did well.

I think it should be more than just a "gg wp" since BMers generally send you more than just no "gg".
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#16
or you could just type gg on its own, because the people you're saying "good timing" to probably have no idea what they just did
blabberrrrr
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
August 17 2011 02:54 GMT
#17
So everything you say is actually genuine?

I will start doing this if it actually helps with rage. I just can't get over beating myself up. I want to believe that my opponents played well and deserved their win, but I just don't know. I worry that doing this is merely just "going through the motions" and won't actually help with anger issues because it is all acting.
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#18
On August 17 2011 11:53 blabber wrote:
or you could just type gg on its own, because the people you're saying "good timing" to probably have no idea what they just did


Maybe, maybe not. In all honesty, I didn't know what else to say to that guy ._. I think I messed up my build on that one and reacted all wrong to everything but needed something, so the first thing that popped into my head was "nice timing". Probably not the best option, but better than "nice all-in" or something like that >>
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:59 GMT
#19
On August 17 2011 11:54 Divergence wrote:
So everything you say is actually genuine?

I will start doing this if it actually helps with rage. I just can't get over beating myself up. I want to believe that my opponents played well and deserved their win, but I just don't know. I worry that doing this is merely just "going through the motions" and won't actually help with anger issues because it is all acting.


Yeah, it is genuine. I pick out some part of their play that they did well and that I think made me lose.

Like that last guy, I messed up my entire stargate harass (plus he blind countered it) and didn't have any ground units. Regardless, he still rolled in with a great composition of infestors, banelings, zerglings, and roaches. That legitimately threw me for a loop and even if I was on top of my game would still probably have lost. It was legitimately a good build, well executed, and a deserved loss on my part.

So I guess the key is to make sure you pick an actual GOOD part of their play and complement that rather than just throwing something generic out there. Think about what they did right, not what you did wrong.
Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
August 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#20
This is so mannered that some people might find it sarcastic! I say this because whenever I get cheesed I say "gg wp" and never mean it
@BilldSC I tweet about all things Starcraft 2!
1 2 3 4 5 34 35 36 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 496
uThermal 244
IndyStarCraft 183
MindelVK 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4888
Rain 2100
Horang2 1648
BeSt 418
EffOrt 367
firebathero 248
Last 229
Hm[arnc] 194
Rush 190
Killer 163
[ Show more ]
Pusan 152
ggaemo 143
Hyun 130
Mong 108
Zeus 94
JYJ 85
Leta 80
Bonyth 77
Barracks 74
Mind 61
soO 50
Shuttle 49
Nal_rA 41
910 40
ToSsGirL 34
Free 34
yabsab 32
Sexy 22
GoRush 21
zelot 20
Bale 17
Sacsri 15
SilentControl 10
Shine 9
scan(afreeca) 6
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Gorgc1584
XcaliburYe354
NeuroSwarm107
League of Legends
C9.Mang0412
Counter-Strike
zeus412
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor99
Other Games
singsing1817
B2W.Neo1045
Pyrionflax321
Happy293
Sick278
crisheroes187
Livibee60
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2238
StarCraft 2
WardiTV1066
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 26
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 67
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1552
• Stunt471
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2m
AI Arena Tournament
8h 2m
BSL 21
8h 2m
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
All-Star Invitational
14h 17m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 2m
OSC
1d
BSL 21
1d 8h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.