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On May 10 2011 00:16 sandroba wrote:
Ok people, I've been think about all the possibilities and I'd like to sugest the following, in case there are any DTs left:
Vig hit on GGQ or Eternal. DT check on cthsazsa. You might ask me why waste a check on cthsazsa? The game is pretty much in the bag for town otherwise. The only chance we can still lose this is if somehow this was planed move from the scum team and I don't like to leave things to chance.
There is a very slight possibility that cthsazsa was scum all along and the scum team would lose a member either way, so they fake claimed DT to build incredible town cred. That's pretty much the only way this game is not lost for scum.
It's going to be pretty easy to pin all the scum team on behaviour otherwise, and although I believe the chances of this being the case are pretty small, we can afford to right now.
If cthsazsa comes back town then we know for sure we are on the right track.
How do you feel about this chaoser?
This isn't directed towards you Chaoser, but lets say someone takes up the call and does a "rolecheck", and brings us a false claim. At this point, scum can claim to be a DT, create a fake rolecheck and lead us off the right track.
That's just something to be aware of.
I just got home, I'm gonna try to go back and reread the posts I missed.
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It's not as easy as making a fake DT claim and lead us off the right track. They'd have to back up their DT check with actual analysis plus at this point no one would actually claim DT since there's no reason to. Finally if the person they claim is red is lynched and flips green or blue, we just caught a mafia? It's not like we take every claim at face value
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Here's how it works: Dude claims dt. Says "xxx is mafia, I checked him." We lynch xxx. If xxx comes back miller or scum, we've got a confirmed dt, everything is happy. If he comes back blue/green, we lynch/vigi the guy who claimed dt.
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On May 10 2011 05:53 Varpulis wrote:Chaoser's list seems solid, assuming it is - Sinani
- GGQ
- Eternal
- TBD (don't have a strong read on a 4th, possibly Forumite)
I was looking through the list of players, trying to find TBD, until I remembered the acronym. 
Also, I´m not scum.
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At this point, considering how badly the people think I am scum, I would recommend a vigi-hit on myself. I know that I have painted myself scum badly with my bad analysis yesterday and most people are taking for granted I am scum.
Even though I know I am town, here is why it is beneficial for the town to take a vigi-hit on me:
If I flip scum, the town gets a mafia kill regardless so it is a good deal for the town.
If I flip town, the town does not waste the next day trying to lynch me instead of focusing on other scum. Even as town, my reads have been bad and this flip won't be too detrimental on the town. Also, unless it is confirmed that I am town tonight, my analysis/posts will most likely be perceived as scum trying to distract attention on someone.
A DT check on me would not work since chaoser is almost guaranteed to be role-blocked. And, even if there is another DT, he shouldn't claim once he gets a town role-check on me since that would make him vulnerable to mafia kill the night after.
The only con would be losing the vigi-hit when I flip town but in place of that vigi-hit you get a chance to focus on finding scum and lynch mafia the upcoming day.
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You might as well stay alive. I'm sure most people are confident in lynching GGQ when day comes.
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Yeah, Eternal, just keep contributing and analysing. Of the three on chaoser's list, I'm the least confident about you. Your analyses have seemed similar to what you were doing in Surprisingly Normal, and you were town in that one, IIRC. Being wrong doesn't mean you're scum. I'd like to see Chaoser's reason for FoSing you, actually.
Martyring yourself is not the answer.
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Eternal, what you did there only contributed to me thinking you are scum, because if you are town, wasting a vig hit on you is definitively anti-town. However if you are scum, asking for a vig hit and providing this kind of explanation may lead some to believe that you are trying to contribute and reconsider their thoughts. If you want to prove your worth to the town the best way to do it is to catch scum.
If I'm alive tomorrow I'll take a look at your posts and see if somehow I was wrong about you.
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On May 10 2011 08:40 sandroba wrote:
Eternal, what you did there only contributed to me thinking you are scum, because if you are town, wasting a vig hit on you is definitively anti-town. However if you are scum, asking for a vig hit and providing this kind of explanation may lead some to believe that you are trying to contribute and reconsider their thoughts. If you want to prove your worth to the town the best way to do it is to catch scum.
If I'm alive tomorrow I'll take a look at your posts and see if somehow I was wrong about you.
It is a catch-22 situation for me. If I posted analysis on someone, I would be called scum for trying to divert attention. If I don't post, I am scum for lurking or becoming inactive after active for last few days. If I respond to why I am not scum, I will be perceived as scum for being too defensive. Even the above post that I made can be thought of as scummy.
Regardless of the above, if I am alive tomorrow, I still plan to be active and hunt for scum.
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Make analysis. I"m not going to call you scum for it. I might call you scum anyways, but not because you post analysis.
If you don't, i'm definitely going to call you scum.
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On May 10 2011 10:12 Varpulis wrote:
Make analysis. I"m not going to call you scum for it. I might call you scum anyways, but not because you post analysis.
If you don't, i'm definitely going to call you scum.
Wtf, this post hardly makes any sense. Why would you call him scum, then?
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
An hour and 20 minutes huh. I'll post it later.
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On May 10 2011 10:36 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 10:12 Varpulis wrote:
Make analysis. I"m not going to call you scum for it. I might call you scum anyways, but not because you post analysis.
If you don't, i'm definitely going to call you scum. Wtf, this post hardly makes any sense. Why would you call him scum, then?
If I analyze him and determine that he's scummy, I'll call him scum. I was simply stating that him posting his analysis would not be a contributing factor in me calling him scum, as long as the analysis is good.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
This is in progress - I'm posting this just in case I'm killed in the night (though not likely)
[url blocked]
The excel file contains the vote time and target for the past 2 days. It's quite interesting. I'll post a full analysis after day breaks and I have a few more identifiers.
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United States22154 Posts
The Night is Over! Cheer! (I hope you've figured out I don't do day/night posts by now )
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Yo vig here, just shot redtooth because I'm quite sure he's gf. Cross your fingers.
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Day 3
The residents cower in their houses at night, scared to show themselves with the ever-increasing threat of violence. They hear the sound of guns ripping through the darkness.
In the morning, they discover chaoser slumped over a railing, riddled with a simply ridiculous number of bullets. But not far away, they find GGQ collapsed on the ground, shot once in the head.
They disperse, and prepare for the next night.
chaoser the Veteran is dead.
GGQ the Mafia Roleblocker is dead.
Day 3 has started! The mafia has taken a significant blow, but not everything is what the town thought it was...
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