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MaelstromIV
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada28 Posts
December 08 2010 23:22 GMT
#561
On December 09 2010 05:12 Tony Campolo wrote:
A Roissy summary of the case:

+ Show Spoiler +
So let me see if I have this straight.

Four months ago, fame-whore Anna Ardin had a few telephone and internet conversations with WikiLeaks badboy Julian Assange, a man she had previously only known as a name in the news.

A few telephone calls with an alpha male she didn’t know from Adam is all it took for her vagina to vibrate like a tuning fork. She invited him to stay at her unattended (!) place in Stockholm. She would be away on business.

When he arrived in Stockholm, the radical libertarian Assange “held court” at a local pub with like-minded admirers. The vagina tingles reached critical mass.

Assange’s alphaness must have been so powerful it was telepathic, because Ardin picked up on the disturbance in the electromagnetic spectrum from far away and returned home a day earlier than she had planned. SETI could not locate an extraterrestrial signal so precisely.

Assange was still at her place when she returned. She decided he could continue to stay. Scientists are baffled.

Within mere hours of returning and meeting this man in the flesh for the first time in her life, Ardin and Assange had sex. She is not a total slut, though. She would like you to know that they had dinner beforehand.

During sex, the condom broke. Both confirm this.

The two lovebirds were happy and friendly the next morning, as can be discerned by the fact that Ardin threw a party for him that night.

At a seminar that day, woman #2, Sofia Wilen, felt a strong rush of tingles for Assange because she read about him in the papers.

Wilen set out to meet Assange, by stalking him introducing herself:

[Sofia] would later tell police that she had first seen Assange on television a few weeks before. She had found him ‘interesting, brave and admirable’. As a result, she began to follow the WikiLeaks saga, and when she discovered that he was due to visit Stockholm she contacted the Brotherhood Movement to volunteer to help out at the seminar. Although her offer was not taken up, she decided to attend the seminar anyway and took a large number of photos of Assange during his 90-minute talk.

Lesson: A woman will move heaven and earth to meet an alpha male. When a man does the same thing to meet a woman he likes, he is slapped with a restraining order.

Assange and Wilen went to lunch together with Assange’s friends.

They flirted.

The attraction was mutual. Scientists, still baffled, wonder how an ugly but infamous mofo like Assange could be considered attractive by a cute babe.

After lunch, Assange and Wilen went to see a movie. But Assange had to part early, to attend the party that Ardin was throwing for him that night.

After the party, the future rape accuser Anna Ardin Tweeted that she was “with the coolest people” and that she felt “amazing”.

There were other Tweets of this nature that suggest a state of mind very unlike what one would imagine a recent rape victim would possess.

A couple days later, Sofia meets Assange in Stockholm. She then pays for his train ticket to her home in another Swedish town. Scientists, now knee-deep in bafflement, wonder why a young woman would pay the way of an ugly and poor but infamous libertardian badboy claiming he can’t get money because the CIA tracks his credit card transactions. Sofia’s hamster is about to collapse from exhaustion.

Maxim #21: Betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit.

Later that night, the two self-satisfied, egomaniacal “activists” make sweet rebellious love as the world burns down around them. Assange wore a condom at night, but raw dogged it in the morning.

Sofia Wilen would later claim that she had asked him to wear a condom in the morning, but he refused. She opened her legs anyway.

On Tuesday, the following day, Wilen and Assange had lunch. She paid for his train ticket again.

Assange forgets rule #1 of successful womanizers: Do NOT concurrently bed mutual acquaintances, particularly those who are proud to call themselves feminists. Wilen calls Ardin, and the two women conspire a false rape charge to exact revenge against the man who treated the purity of their love so cavalierly.

At the police station, the women are interviewed by a female police officer. Charges follow. No, not charges of “cruel and unusual fits of jealousy” but charges of rape and sexual molestation against Assange.

Assange, a figure of ambivalence at best, has as a result of his recent arrest in Britain, epicenter of self-loathing, self-annihilating Westerners, earned street cred with REAL liberty loving men.

What scores of powerful governments around the world have been unable to do, two spurned groupies and a female police officer, along with the backing of the feminist establishment, have been able to orchestrate unhindered.

******

I think that’s the story. What can we learn from this? Let me be blunt.

If Assange is convicted of rape,
then we are all rapists now.

Every man who’s ever had a condom break, or who had condomless sex with a woman who agreed to the sex despite her misgivings, or who has slept with more than one woman in a weekend, is now a rapist. By these standards, half the men in the world would be locked up on rape charges. This is the logical conclusion of feminist thought. I’m sure they secretly love the idea.

Feminists and feminist enablers (you know who you are, you pasty-skinned sunken-chest droopy cartoon muscled faggy-faced white knighters who wear T-shirts that say “this is what a feminist looks like”), here is word from the Committee of Helpful Reminders:

Sex with a woman willingly spreading for a man despite his refusal to wear a condom, and then feeling regret about her sluttiness the next day, is not rape. It is not even rape in emasculated Sweden. Similarly, getting pumped and dumped is not sexual molestation. Hope this helps.

Anna Ardin’s ego was bruised, and her sluttiness broadcast to all her friends. As a result, she set out to seek vengeance against the skirt-chasing man she fell in love with over a heady late summer weekend. She even had a website devoted to plans for exacting just such a revenge scenerio.

Earlier this year, [Anna] is reported to have posted a telling entry on her website, which she has since removed. But a copy has been retrieved and widely circulated on the internet.

Entitled ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge’, it explains how women can use courts to get their own back on unfaithful lovers.

Step 7 says: ‘Go to it and keep your goal in sight. Make sure your victim suffers just as you did.’

In a normal, sane society with a firm grip on what constitutes fairness and justice, hypercunty feminism-soaked revenge fantasists would have to consign themselves to acting out their aggression in their fucked-up heads. The only people who would suffer from their delusions would be the hapless also-ran beta boyfriends competing with the lingering memories of badboy alpha cock like Assange’s piercing the grateful labia of these heartbroken shrikes.

But we in the West don’t live in a sane society. Not anymore. Rabid attack cunts like Ardin and Wilen can now see their revenge fantasies breathed into life, aided and abetted by the feminism-industrial complex, cultural PC-ism, an allied media, and women in positions of influence where their natural inclination toward favoring social cohesion and grrlpower at the expense of justice makes a mockery of the institutions they claim to represent.

By the way, is there anything more repulsive than a “Christian feminist”, as Anna Ardin calls herself? At least you can enjoy a piece of ass with regular secular feminists, which helps makes their inane little opinions tolerable. But a Christian feminist is the worst of both worlds — teeth-gnashingly insipid and prudish. Wow, sign me up! Anyhow, it’s been my observation that self-professed Christian feminists are some of the worst man-hating cunts alive, truly devoid of any sense of empathy or even a rudimentary grasp of fairness. Anna Ardin, in all her glorious hamsterized self-rationalizing hypocrisy, fits the mold perfectly. This is how the Daily Mail describes her job in life:

While a research assistant at a local university she had not only been the protegee of a militant feminist academic, but held the post of ‘campus sexual equity officer’. Fighting male discrimination in all forms, including sexual harassment, was her forte.

If there is something more pointless to do with one’s life, I can’t think of it. The obvious pointlessness explains some of the resentment that people like Ardin nurse against the outside world, and against men specifically. The humanities departments of academia throughout the West have turned into mills for churning out ignorant, man-loathing fascists who envy and hate the inherent freedom of male desire. They are pinkshirts on the prowl for “incorrect thinking”, who see rape in the frosting on a birthday cake. Imagine a high heel stomping on a nutsack, forever. Why do men put up with this shit? Probably because they think assuming a posture of prostration will get them laid. Nominal alphas may have supported feminism in the past as a quick and painless route to easy sex, but today they are in the gun sights as much as any beta. To win at this war, you need true insight into the female mind.

Sweden leads the way in this fembot festival of absurdity, but the other Western (white) nations are not far behind. China will catapult to superpower status this century, not least because they have their heads on straight and see modern feminism for the productivity and innovation sapping insanity it is.

I’ve written before that false rape accusers ought to be punished the same as actual rapists, with jail time. It is as evil as real rape. Their lies destroy lives. Tossing them in jail for years will send a valuable message to women everywhere that they will not escape the consequences of smearing a man who didn’t fulfill their romantic expectations.


More people need to read this, it seems far more likely than anything the media's told me so far.
Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:30:35
December 08 2010 23:28 GMT
#562
I don't give two shits about if julian assange is a rapist or not, I'm mad over what is happening to the wikileaks.org site

this is proof that freedom of the press has just become a way to lull the public into a false sense of security; it only serves to fuel the new 'soft-propaganda' machine...

that machine is allowed to spin things however they want (don't even have to pretend to be objective, "fair and balanced" my ass) and the idiot public thinks the contents hold similar validity to a peer-reviewed study
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:36:50
December 08 2010 23:32 GMT
#563
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. These files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

His only crime so far is receiving leaked information. or journalism as we call it.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:35:52
December 08 2010 23:35 GMT
#564
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
December 08 2010 23:37 GMT
#565
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

If they just up and murder him they risk turning him into a martyr, also he's ensured that if he dies all the files will be released. It's a lose/lose situation for America but assassinating him would probably be the worse thing they could do.
"It's not acceptable"
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:44:27
December 08 2010 23:39 GMT
#566
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

Like i said if he dies the files are released. By discrediting him maybe ppl won't listen to what he has to say. Ppl (like us senators) are already calling him a terrorist and seeking extradition. So ya they are probably going to kill him.

It seems to be working considering what we have to read here on TL from some US posters.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
December 08 2010 23:42 GMT
#567
On December 09 2010 08:39 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

Like i said if he dies the files are released. By discrediting him maybe ppl won't listen to what he has to say. Ppl (like us senators) are already calling him a terrorist and seeking extradition. So ya they are probably going to kill him.

wait, but if he goes to prison the files remain a secret? and how does being labeled a sex offender discredit anybody? horny =/= crazy
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:50:40
December 08 2010 23:43 GMT
#568
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



Because Goverment people don't give a shit and know they now they can get away with it, because general public is brainwashed and stupid as fuck.
And it's pretty fucking hard to go to court and try to prosecute 'the goverment'.
I mean, it's just a 'coincidence', right?


As I said in my previous post and as you pointed out, it DOES indeed seem like a 'bad movie plot'. If this happened in a movie, it would seem so damn obv about what's happening, but when it comes to real life people just don't want to believe that people who make all the important decisions in our lifes are actually 'evil' if you must call it that..
I mean, we are discussing it here, but average american willl have NO clue about what's happening.


acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:44:25
December 08 2010 23:44 GMT
#569
There's this one-gigabyte file floating around on the Internet, encrypted with 256-AES.

It's pointedly labeled "Insurance".

If the United States pulls one on Assange, the same way they pulled one on, say, Frank Olson, the United States will be in for a whole lot of hurting. No one knows what exactly is in those files, and the United States does not want to find out the hard way.

Most likely case? The insurance file contains all the diplomatic cables. As in, completely uncensored diplomatic cables.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson
j4ck3d
Profile Joined November 2010
93 Posts
December 08 2010 23:47 GMT
#570
On December 09 2010 08:42 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:39 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

Like i said if he dies the files are released. By discrediting him maybe ppl won't listen to what he has to say. Ppl (like us senators) are already calling him a terrorist and seeking extradition. So ya they are probably going to kill him.

wait, but if he goes to prison the files remain a secret? and how does being labeled a sex offender discredit anybody? horny =/= crazy


it worked quite well in america when they did the same to mj
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office."
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 00:44:12
December 08 2010 23:48 GMT
#571
On December 09 2010 08:42 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:39 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

Like i said if he dies the files are released. By discrediting him maybe ppl won't listen to what he has to say. Ppl (like us senators) are already calling him a terrorist and seeking extradition. So ya they are probably going to kill him.

wait, but if he goes to prison the files remain a secret? and how does being labeled a sex offender discredit anybody? horny =/= crazy

He is already being labeled by senators more then a sex offender ? did you not read what i said ><

Nah the files will be released no matter what hapens to him, when he wants it. Maybe if he is extradited or something who knows.
j4ck3d
Profile Joined November 2010
93 Posts
December 08 2010 23:50 GMT
#572
how is it that you all are certain that there even exists this "insurance" keeping this dude alive?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office."
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:52:18
December 08 2010 23:51 GMT
#573
They will be released as soon as the hype for the recently released documents dies down, because wikileaks loves attention. And the then the cycle will continue.
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:55:46
December 08 2010 23:53 GMT
#574
On December 09 2010 08:43 MidKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



Because Goverment people don't give a shit and know they now they can get away with it, because general public is brainwashed and stupid as fuck.
And it's pretty fucking hard to go to court and try to prosecute 'the goverment'.
I mean, it's just a 'coincidence'..


As I said in my previous post and as you pointed out, it DOES indeed seem like a 'bad movie plot. If this happened in a movie, it would seem so damn obv about what's happening, but when it comes to real life people just don't want to believe that people who make all the important decisions in our lifes are actually 'evil' if you must call it that..
I mean, we are discussing it here, but average american willl have NO clue about what's happening.



i've gotta say i have to disagree. we essentially invented the conspiracy theory. We have a conspiracy theory for everything. you'd be surprised how many people ive met who are absolutely convinced the government is literally run by satan and his followers (lol).
the government may be evil but to say the US population doesnt suspect conspiracy (jfk, 9/11 etc etc)
you'd have to be very misinformed.
Goobus
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong587 Posts
December 08 2010 23:54 GMT
#575
On December 09 2010 08:50 j4ck3d wrote:
how is it that you all are certain that there even exists this "insurance" keeping this dude alive?


We don't know for sure; we can't. But the mere possibility of this file actually containing the uncensored versions of the diplomatic cables is enough to deter any extreme actions against Assange.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 00:00:00
December 08 2010 23:57 GMT
#576
On December 09 2010 08:48 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:42 billyX333 wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:39 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:35 billyX333 wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:32 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



There are allot more files not released. Stuff that could potentially send important ppl to prison. Either from "a major us bank" or from the governement. So its probably worth it to them? I honestly cannot believe this is a coincidence.And yes there is evidence linking one of the girls to the CIA and more. This files are already available on the internet, encrypted until Assange wants to release them or when he dies. Ya it does sound like a bad movie and that's why it is so sad.

if hes that dangerous to the US government, my question still is:
why is he alive? is this the best method they could come up with (if its true)? It seems like accusing somebody of rape then letting the complicated legal system work its way out is incredibly ineffective and drawn out. Just seems like its fueling the media circus

Like i said if he dies the files are released. By discrediting him maybe ppl won't listen to what he has to say. Ppl (like us senators) are already calling him a terrorist and seeking extradition. So ya they are probably going to kill him.

wait, but if he goes to prison the files remain a secret? and how does being labeled a sex offender discredit anybody? horny =/= crazy

He is already being labeled by senators more then a sex offender ? did you not read what i said ><

Nah the files will be released no matter what hapens to him, when he wants it. Maybe if he his extradited or something who knows.

ive read everything youve said in response to my post. you havent said anything specific about how he is being discredited except that its about rape. they were calling him a terrorist before the rape case, but what does the rape case have to do with discrediting anybody?
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
December 08 2010 23:57 GMT
#577
Regarding his insurance file that is out there free to download. Do you guys think that the goverment has already cracked the password on it?

Or do you think that someone will eventually be able to open it now that it is out there for everyone to try?

I'm by no means familiar with the encryption on the file or really anything like that, just curious if someone with more knowledge could ring in.

So maybe if nothing happens someone could potentially 'release' the info anyway?
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 00:00:45
December 08 2010 23:59 GMT
#578
On December 09 2010 08:53 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 08:43 MidKnight wrote:
On December 09 2010 08:20 billyX333 wrote:
Ive read the articles and heard the news stories but im absolutely confused on what this all means

my questions, for anybody who may know. I dont feel like reading US news sources and i dont really want to read every misguided opinion just to find 1 that makes sense

1) what motives does the US have to do this? Arent the files already leaked? what does this help if they defame assange? Is he some how able to leak more files and how the hell would he be able to do that now? and why would the US use this method? seems retardedly cliche and an overused hollywood plotline out of some predictable and bad movie. how could any government official think this is a good method of protecting US intelligence? why not just fucking kill him? same media drama and conspiracy theories, but far more effective
2) the accusers are linked to the US government? this seems like the conclusion everybody keeps drawing

personal opinion: no opinion. i just see lots of speculation unless someone can enlighten me.



Because Goverment people don't give a shit and know they now they can get away with it, because general public is brainwashed and stupid as fuck.
And it's pretty fucking hard to go to court and try to prosecute 'the goverment'.
I mean, it's just a 'coincidence'..


As I said in my previous post and as you pointed out, it DOES indeed seem like a 'bad movie plot. If this happened in a movie, it would seem so damn obv about what's happening, but when it comes to real life people just don't want to believe that people who make all the important decisions in our lifes are actually 'evil' if you must call it that..
I mean, we are discussing it here, but average american willl have NO clue about what's happening.



i've gotta say i have to disagree. we essentially invented the conspiracy theory. We have a conspiracy theory for everything. you'd be surprised how many people ive met who are absolutely convinced the government is literally run by satan and his followers (lol).
the government may be evil but to say the US population doesnt suspect conspiracy (jfk, 9/11 etc etc)
you'd have to be very misinformed.

JFK is more then a conspiracy. I've seen some pretty crazy shit regarding that. :-)
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 00:07:09
December 09 2010 00:00 GMT
#579
On December 09 2010 08:50 j4ck3d wrote:
how is it that you all are certain that there even exists this "insurance" keeping this dude alive?

maybe its all bull. now that would be interesting. but so far he hasn't lied.

Only seeking attention ya right.

as much as fox sux this is the first article that popped in google. Seems pretty damn accurate

The military papers on Guantanamo Bay, yet to be published, have been supplied by Bradley Manning, Assange’s primary source until his arrest in May. Other documents that Assange is confirmed to possess include an aerial video of a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan that killed civilians, BP files and Bank of America documents.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/05/wikileaks-ready-release-massive-insurance-file-shut/#ixzz17ZH48SK2


from net neutrality to free speech to swiss banks neutrality to calling ppl rapist/terrorist nothing can stop these thugs, sry i mean these governments. Not only the US every1 who bought into their bull and went to Iraq/Afghanistan. I bet no1 bought into their bull but they were too ashamed or scared to admit it, how fucking disgusting.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
December 09 2010 00:01 GMT
#580
http://avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?fp

Sign this, sorry if it's already been posted.
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