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Two types of Protoss Cannons?

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Terranium
Profile Joined February 2004
Turkmenistan144 Posts
June 15 2007 08:53 GMT
#1
Hey, anybody notice this? The cannons in the new video appear differently from those in the first demo.

Could this be a modification or there're actually two types of cannons?(With a really close look? I highly doubt that)

If it is a modification then I hope they're changing the Seige Tank as well, cuz it didn't appear in the new video.

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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 09:34:59
June 15 2007 08:59 GMT
#2
There are photon cannons and there are phase cannons. The latter are phase cannons and can teleport.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
June 15 2007 09:01 GMT
#3
maybe.i still think that there will be 2 types of them.nevertheless i wonder how are they going to balance the races if protoss has this kind of weapons and abilities.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 15 2007 09:01 GMT
#4
It could be that the Phase Cannons is an upgrade for the Photon Cannons.
Like creep colony > sunken colony.
Or maybe its something you just have to research then it turns all the Photons into Phases.
I'm just assuming things here.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 15 2007 09:02 GMT
#5
I'm guessing phase cannons are the upgraded defenses. Sort of like how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore, or for better parallel, WC3 Human Towers. I guess its level up on tech.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 15 2007 09:04 GMT
#6
On June 15 2007 18:02 QuietIdiot wrote:
I'm guessing phase cannons are the upgraded defenses. Sort of like how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore, or for better parallel, WC3 Human Towers. I guess its level up on tech.

hey I just said that.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 15 2007 09:06 GMT
#7
On June 15 2007 18:04 XCetron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2007 18:02 QuietIdiot wrote:
I'm guessing phase cannons are the upgraded defenses. Sort of like how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore, or for better parallel, WC3 Human Towers. I guess its level up on tech.

hey I just said that.

Its 1 minute apart I didn't know you posted that dammiT!!1
Terranium
Profile Joined February 2004
Turkmenistan144 Posts
June 15 2007 09:08 GMT
#8
Hell yea, just rewatched the first demo, and I just noticed the guy mentioned 'Photon Cannon'

So now the Protoss too have 2 types of defence buildings like the Terrans and Zerg? How lame..
At least they should've made them look completely different like those for the Zerg and Terran.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 15 2007 09:14 GMT
#9
I do think there are two different types, why else call them 'phase cannons'? They are probably a little weaker than photon cannons, but can be moved. You would probably use photon cannons at your choke, and a few phase cannons sprinkled around your base.

Didn't it look like the photon cannons had shields, and the phase cannons didn't?

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By the way, on a side note, I don't think marines in bunkers should take supplies. Hope they change that in this game. Or maybe you should be able to make non-armored men from barracks that can be put in bunkers but take like 0.5 supplies or something.
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Ruins
Profile Joined April 2007
141 Posts
June 15 2007 09:14 GMT
#10
On June 15 2007 18:08 Terranium wrote:
Hell yea, just rewatched the first demo, and I just noticed the guy mentioned 'Photon Cannon'

So now the Protoss too have 2 types of defence buildings like the Terrans and Zerg? How lame..
At least they should've made them look completely different like those for the Zerg and Terran.


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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 15 2007 09:17 GMT
#11
On June 15 2007 18:08 Terranium wrote:
Hell yea, just rewatched the first demo, and I just noticed the guy mentioned 'Photon Cannon'

So now the Protoss too have 2 types of defence buildings like the Terrans and Zerg? How lame..
At least they should've made them look completely different like those for the Zerg and Terran.


Hey, maybe phase cannons are the default defense unit, and they can be either teched to photon cannons or movable phase cannons. After all, didn't they say that they are going to be giving players more early-tech options?...because now games < 20 minutes?
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Terranium
Profile Joined February 2004
Turkmenistan144 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 09:26:09
June 15 2007 09:21 GMT
#12
On June 15 2007 18:02 QuietIdiot wrote:
I'm guessing phase cannons are the upgraded defenses. Sort of like how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore, or for better parallel, WC3 Human Towers. I guess its level up on tech.



I don't think it'd be an upgrade of photon cannons. If it was, what would happen to the photon cannons when the upgrade was done? All your existing photon cannons turning into phase cannons in a flash of blue light? Somehow I doubt that.

Nor I think it'd be like 'how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore', do you seriously think people would spend the extra resources to just give their photon cannons a limited mobility?
I'd rather put that into building the real armies.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12267 Posts
June 15 2007 09:26 GMT
#13
I think they're removing Photon Cannons and replacing them with Phase Cannons. They look too similar to be different structures.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
June 15 2007 10:12 GMT
#14
On June 15 2007 18:26 Excalibur_Z wrote:
I think they're removing Photon Cannons and replacing them with Phase Cannons. They look too similar to be different structures.

And where exactly should phase cannon be on the tech tree? On the low end or on the high end?
If it's on the low end it'll be too powerful, if it's on the high end it is too late.

I still think upgrade gives the most flexibilities.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
June 15 2007 10:36 GMT
#15
i really doubt they'll have teleporting cannons that you can build within 2 min of the gamestart

you likely have to combo it with another unit or get an upgr
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 15 2007 12:09 GMT
#16
On June 15 2007 18:21 Terranium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2007 18:02 QuietIdiot wrote:
I'm guessing phase cannons are the upgraded defenses. Sort of like how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore, or for better parallel, WC3 Human Towers. I guess its level up on tech.



I don't think it'd be an upgrade of photon cannons. If it was, what would happen to the photon cannons when the upgrade was done? All your existing photon cannons turning into phase cannons in a flash of blue light? Somehow I doubt that.

Nor I think it'd be like 'how a creep colony morphs into a sunken/spore', do you seriously think people would spend the extra resources to just give their photon cannons a limited mobility?
I'd rather put that into building the real armies.


it could be like "ZOmg upgrade to phase cannon to get +20 attack"
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 15 2007 12:25 GMT
#17
they are on different terrain, like on tau and LT when you make cannons their fire looks different. and how they look i think changes a little. Maybe structures look differnt on different terrains becuase of how thye are made makes game little more indepth i guess. Then agian they could also just be a more updated version.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12267 Posts
June 15 2007 13:38 GMT
#18
On June 15 2007 19:36 Hot_Bid wrote:
i really doubt they'll have teleporting cannons that you can build within 2 min of the gamestart

you likely have to combo it with another unit or get an upgr


I don't know how advantageous a moving cannon would really be though. I doubt it would be game-breaking as an opening static defense. They take pretty long to transform, move to a new position, and redeploy.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 13:46:45
June 15 2007 13:46 GMT
#19
If there are both Photon and Phase Cannons, one's probably an upgrade. I don't see Blizz really doing two units or buildings with very similar purposes. Of course everything is subject to change.

Teleporting cannons early aren't that imba - they can't teleport past pylon range, sez PC Gamer. And they don't seem to move that quickly.
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
June 15 2007 13:51 GMT
#20
On June 15 2007 19:36 Hot_Bid wrote:
i really doubt they'll have teleporting cannons that you can build within 2 min of the gamestart

you likely have to combo it with another unit or get an upgr

ya and combo it with something that is far down the tech tree....
I think this is one of those things that programmers try to make to create more strategy but it never works...
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
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