• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:38
CEST 12:38
KST 19:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun11[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists21[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) ASL21 General Discussion [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2597 users

[TSL] Round of 8 Preview

Forum Index > PokerStrategy.com TSL3 Forum
144 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All

[TSL] Round of 8 Preview

Text byXxio
Graphics byKennigit
April 22nd, 2011 22:39 GMT
[image loading]
Saturday April 23rd 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
Sunday April 24th 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
(Wiki)TSL3

By Xxio and tree.hugger

The TSL feels like it just started. I remember so vividly when Thorzain crushed FruitDealer on Terminus, Kas overwhelmed Haypro like a storm, and Cruncher gave us a smile that will last forever. The days have gone by fast and here we are, at the quarterfinals.

The path has been as difficult as one can be, but the players that survived this far have written their own stories. Kas, through his polished build orders and gosu building placement is now a household name. Naniwa, relentless and persistent, has warmed even the iciest of nerd hearts. Safe and solid, Adelscott won against the toughest odds. Boxer showed us that legends never die.

The eight players who made it to the quarterfinals have cemented their names in the minds of fans and players. Perseverance, skill, and courage is what they will be remembered for. As it has been in past TSLs and as it will be in future ones.


[image loading] [image loading] oGsMC vs. Prae.ThorZaIN [image loading] [image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading]


Thorzain had better be as ready and prepared as humanly possible. His build orders and reactions should be so well practised that his hands flow across the keyboard without thought. But it's the mental, not the physical that will be decisive for him. MC has played in front of a roaring, live audience. He has defeated the most venerate names in Korea and strutted confidently to his prize. His mind is sharp and hard with no room left for nerves and distractions. I am worried that he will push Thorzain to his mental limit - attack, fake, juke and harrass, constantly, in each game until Thorzain cracks under the pressure. As Arrian attests in A Finale in Five, a best of five can be a rattling, crushing experience. Against MC, an unshakable veteran with the eyes of a hawk, it only takes one slip for everything to come tumbling down.

Prediction: The way Thorzain played Tyler was conservative but also predictable. As they have never been worth so much, I am not sure how much scrutiny Thorzain's builds have taken. If MC bothers to, he might find more than one hole. But if he underestimates Thorzain, if he enters these games unprepared, he will be hard-pressed to win by experience alone. That said, I do think that MC will be familiar with Thorzain's style, and that he will have the answer to it that Adelscott and Tyler did not. Thorzain is a great player but MC is on another level.

Liquibet Stat: MC: 6249 Thorzain: 1871



[image loading] [image loading] Empire.Kas vs. Mill.Adelscott [image loading] [image loading]

[image loading][image loading]


Kas and Adelscott are like two strong, stubborn bulls about to butt heads. To generalize, they both play a safe style with only a pinch of harassment. Macro, tweak, and react is how they win games. Because they play so similarly, the winner will be the one with the most refinement. Novelty and gimmicks will have no role in these matches. I expect long macro games with the winner being decided by who edges out the tightest macro and safest defense. If the games go as I expect, it will be a wearing experience for the players. In long, drawn-out games one misjudged cycle of units can be the difference between life and death. Everything counts – each detail under your control has to be refined, every action be with a purpose.

Adelscott defeated two top Terrans to make it to the quarterfinals. His series against Qxc went the distance and showed that he has the mettle of a champion. Kas, however, is a much different opponent. He is not overly aggressive, and is more than content to win by outmanoeuvring his opponent in both macro and micro.

Prediction: Adelscott won more than one of his games against MVP and Qxc by having a clutch defence and, like an avalanche, slowly building his advantage. I do not think Kas will be as eager to finish the fight as Adelscott's past opponents. From what I have seen, he is not prone to rash decision making and has terrifying macro. Kas will take it but it won't be easy.

Liquibet Stat: Kas: 4288 Adelscott: 3770



[image loading] [image loading] Dignitas.NaNiwa vs. coL.CrunCher [image loading] [image loading]

[image loading][image loading]


NaNiwa may have qualified for the TSL as a controversial figure, but those days are somewhat behind him. Instead, he has been largely surpassed in that category by the player he faces in the Round of 8. Since steaming through the third TLOpen as an unknown, CrunCher has steadily added to his tournament resumé, and is no longer the wild card he once was. In his TSL run so far, he has defeated two fan favorite zergs in Mondragon and IdrA in forum-rage inducing fashion. To many aggrieved fans of his victims, CrunCher has come to represent everything that is wrong with protoss. Sweet revenge would come in the form of a PvP loss here.

But perhaps it is a NaNiwa who deserves that distinction. While CrunCher is the consummate protoss troll, mixing cannon rushes and six gates with the turtle'n'max strategy, NaNiwa has long relied on good old fashioned brute force to win his games. Of course, like all top players he can mix it up, and surely will in this series, but if NaNiwa's serial destruction of his MLG Dallas opponents are any indication, the Swedish protoss loves nothing more than a quick and brutal stomping.

Prediction: PvP is a weird match-up to call. The player with the advantage is the player who is most comfortable with the many permutations and reads that are required. It'll be fun to see the phoenix/void ray dynamic we've seen on rare occasions. But most likely this PvP will be won in the trenches with three and four gate micro. On the basis of his MLG Dallas run, the advantage in that category should go to NaNiwa, 3-1.

Liquibet Stat: Naniwa: 7676 Cruncher: 772



[image loading] [image loading] mouz.HasuObs vs. SlayerS_BoxeR [image loading] [image loading]

[image loading][image loading]


BoxeR was widely predicted to be the most likely Korean to fall out of the TSL in the Round of 32, and the same was true in the Round of 16. But the Emperor of Starcraft does not relinquish his throne so easily, and edged two difficult opponents to make this Round of8 appearance. Perhaps it shouldn't be treated as a surprise; this is Boxer after all, but up against yet another strong player, the creeping feeling that his luck will turn is back.

That is what HasuObs is hoping. The second ex-WC3 protoss of BoxeR's campaign, HasuObs has proven himself with maybe the most difficult TSL run so far, defeating HuK and MorroW with just a game to spare. Indeed both of these players have advanced by the thinnest of margins each time. That experience will help both in another long series, which this promises to be. Both players should also be comfortable with the external factors related to the TSL by now and these should be less of an issue than they may have been previously.

Prediction: I've bet on BoxeR's opponents twice now, and I've gotten burned. I'm not going for the trifecta. I think Boxer should have more comfort with the playing conditions than he did previously, and I think he can defeat HasuObs, especially with the help of the TvP practice he put in for his Code A match-up. HasuObs is a strong player, as evidenced by his TSL match-list, but I think the emperor has had a charmed run through this TSL that will continue at least one more round.

Liquibet Stat: Boxer: 6388 HasuObs: 2048




Cheerfuls !

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]





This TSL is sponsored by PokerStrategy.com, the world's largest poker school and community. With hundreds of Poker VODs and an assortment of learning material in 18 different languages, PokerStrategy.com offers the chance for aspiring Poker players to learn from a beginner to a professional level. Sign up using TL's referral link.

By signing up, you can also enter the TSL3 Raffle, where you can win a 5-night trip to South Korea for 2 people to watch StarCraft live in person and tour the oGs-Liquid house.

Discuss with other fans in the TSL3 Forum.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
KTY
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#2
nice :D
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
julysun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States29 Posts
April 22 2011 22:42 GMT
#3
cant wait. nice write up
if you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 22 2011 22:42 GMT
#4
I believe that boxer will win. Boxa hwaiting! (Only thing is missing is beating Yellow with a triple bunker rush at the finals)
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
April 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#5
i'm really hoping for naniwa to win/take the tourney. I'm not even a protoss fan, but that guy has some serious skills
Romano
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany60 Posts
April 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#6
Very nice , I like the cheerful of MC vs Thorzain and lol @ the one of Adelscott vs Kas xP
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
April 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#7
lol, love the cheerfuls
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 22:50:17
April 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#8
On April 23 2011 07:42 julysun wrote:
cant wait. nice write up



Oh yeah, what was your favorite part?



Also, soooo pumped for boxer's match. GET SOME BOXER!!
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Romano
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 08:55:27
April 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#9
you wrote "That said, I do think that MC will be familiar with Thorzain's style, and that he will have the answer to it that Adelscott and Tyler did not" But I guess you mean which Fruitdealer and Tyler didnt have!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3618 Posts
April 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#10
The Emperor Protects. Brilliant!

Great read, looking forward to these matches.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
radiumz0rz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States253 Posts
April 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#11
I hope that Boxer's preparation for his Code A match was enough for this tvp. I am voting for Boxer but the bo5 will be a battle, not a landslide.
Berkeley '10
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
April 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#12
i'm loving these hype posters
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
GameTime
Profile Joined May 2010
United States222 Posts
April 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#13
Can't wait for these matches, 3 of them are PvT which is my favorite match up at the moment :D
Only the winner deserves to win.
slip.
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
April 22 2011 23:03 GMT
#14
Seriously, I thought boxer was gonna be out early. Hes the fucking manheroelegend of sc.
Routing for him or cruncher :D
smoke-->drink-->craft
Gleve
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States206 Posts
April 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#15
Haha! The CrunCher hype poster is hilarious. :D
♞
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
April 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#16
Can't wait for the Hasu V. BoxeR. Going to be epic. Also you have BoxeR's flag as U.S.
mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
April 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#17
The Cruncher one is really good xD
syraneko
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
April 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#18
O__O seriousoily cruncher odds to beat naniwa

Liquibet Stat: Naniwa: 7676 Cruncher: 772

but is a pvp its a crazy match up so anything can happen
Maasl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:22:49
April 22 2011 23:22 GMT
#19
On April 23 2011 08:07 Magic_Mike wrote:
Also you have BoxeR's flag as U.S.


To correct this: It means the U.S. is now a new part of Boxers empire.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 22 2011 23:23 GMT
#20
Well.. gonna cheer for BoXeR since there's no more zerg here.
And hope Naniwa demolish cruncher. And by demolish, i mean completly scratch his neck. :<
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Escore
10:00
Week 5
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
PiGosaur Cup #72
CranKy Ducklings125
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech142
Lowko88
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3414
Calm 3052
firebathero 562
Shuttle 479
Mini 295
actioN 284
Hyun 246
Stork 212
Leta 188
Hyuk 170
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 154
BeSt 139
Soma 122
Hm[arnc] 97
ToSsGirL 96
Larva 91
Soulkey 90
ggaemo 81
Killer 81
Snow 78
Light 71
ZerO 56
Pusan 50
Sharp 48
Rush 43
hero 43
NotJumperer 36
scan(afreeca) 32
zelot 31
yabsab 27
Backho 26
sSak 25
Free 21
Shinee 20
Nal_rA 18
Shine 17
[sc1f]eonzerg 15
910 13
Sexy 12
soO 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
Terrorterran 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Sacsri 9
GoRush 9
sorry 8
Barracks 8
JulyZerg 6
SilentControl 4
Dota 2
resolut1ontv 1930
monkeys_forever350
XcaliburYe265
League of Legends
JimRising 432
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1583
Other Games
singsing1670
crisheroes223
NeuroSwarm84
ZerO(Twitch)9
MindelVK8
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream125
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP51
• StrangeGG 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco2232
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1578
• TFBlade1155
• Stunt603
Upcoming Events
INu's Battles
22m
Classic vs ByuN
SHIN vs ByuN
OSC
2h 22m
Big Brain Bouts
5h 22m
Replay Cast
13h 22m
Replay Cast
22h 22m
RSL Revival
23h 22m
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
1d
IPSL
1d 5h
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
1d 23h
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
IPSL
2 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
4 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
5 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-29
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.