Whatever music you like to listen to, doesn't really matter. It seems like a lot of the better players like to play dance/trance/techno music, I prefer Eminem though.

EDIT- Oh wow, I read "mouse" as music...

Well, I would say the Logitech optical mini, its a most excellent mouse that should meet the requirements of anyone wanting to get good at starcraft. But in the end, it really comes down to what you're comfortable and familiar with.

Puosu

7030 Posts

June 20 2010 19:50 GMT

#222

On June 21 2010 03:06 LordAwesome wrote:
I have a Microsoft 3.0, was gonna buy a new one.

If u put MS3.0 mouse on max speed, it moves at 2 pixels/update, and even at fastest speed its too slow.

That being said, any1 know a small smooth mouse wich is faster than the MS 3.0?

Or a way to increase mouse speed beyond the windows settings (Regedit fix does not work)?

Look for a mouse with as high dpi as possible if speed is what you want. The MS 3.0 is solely for low sensitivity users. Never use more than 6/11 at the windows control panel as it causes your mouse to skip pixels and that's bad for your accuracy.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

June 20 2010 20:09 GMT

#223

Jesus christ, these mouse threads are awful.

OP, just find the shape you want and you can find the equivalent MS/Logitech/Razer for it (or Roccat if you're in Europe.) Steel makes fine mousepads and headsets, but their mice always have negative acceleration, prediction, etc. These are the 4 companies worth buying from, although not all of their mice are worth buying. If you can, find an optical mouse instead of a laser mouse, but in most cases they're fairly close (except the opticals are generally cheaper.) This has been empirically tested. Not the "I've used this and it feels great!" crap that's making up the majority of this thread.

Things like DPI/CPI are mostly irrelevant. Once you're past 900, I really doubt you'll be able to handle much more with normal settings. Turn off Enhance Pointer Precision, keep Windows mouse sensitivity on 6/11 and just play around with whatever combination of DPI and ingame sensitivity you'd like.

About the mouses listed, Kinzu is bad. The IME3.0 is like the Godfather of FPS mice, but since we're talking about SC2, I'm not sure how it'll do. If you like the shape, however, go for it. Another consideration is the Deathadder, because it's basically the exact same mouse with a couple extra modernities and a better sensor.

Here's your Roccat lineup/
http://www.roccat.org/

EDIT: Most of what these threads come down to is "I own this, therefore I will blindly defend it to justify my purchase!"

kar1181

United Kingdom515 Posts

June 20 2010 20:20 GMT

#224

I've ordered a SteelSeries Xai over the weekend so it will be interested to see how that fares. I've played with a Logitech mx 518 for about 5 years now, but it's starting to show its age.

QueueQueue

Canada1000 Posts

June 20 2010 20:29 GMT

#225

I've been using an mx518 for years and absolutely love it.

Kyuki

Sweden1867 Posts

June 20 2010 20:37 GMT

#226

Ugh, you compare two mice that are not even close to eachother when it comes to their shape and weight etc.
What you need is something that fits your hand well and has the right weight - FOR YOU. Regardless of what others think, myself included ofc, that is what you should be trying to get and the best advice to give would be to simply go out to diffrent stores that allows for trying them out.

They're both great mice though, both optical, kinzu lacking sidebuttons however but has a faster spec.

Anyway, I think this is a bad way of trying to find what you need.

kar1181

United Kingdom515 Posts

June 20 2010 20:48 GMT

#227

queuequeue: agreed, the mx518 is the best mouse I've ever had. If the xai doesn't work out, i'll just buy another 518.

FreshVegetables

Finland513 Posts

June 20 2010 20:50 GMT

#228

mx518 is the best imo.

Apolo

Portugal1259 Posts

June 20 2010 20:57 GMT

#229

I've been using the MX518 for years, and i already bought another one for when this one stops working

I love it, it's the best mouse i've put my hands on.

Wolf

Korea (South)3290 Posts

June 20 2010 21:04 GMT

#230

I use the Intellimouse wireless ever since my wired mouse broke. Works really well for me. Also gets great battery life. Very accurate.

I need to replace my mouse though.

Chaoz

United States507 Posts

June 20 2010 22:16 GMT

#231

Anyone mapped their the thumb buttons to move the screen? What's the best mouse with great thumb positioning? I always just want to rest my thumb on the thumb button, instead of actually moving my thumb a bit in all the mouses.

kzn

United States1218 Posts

June 20 2010 22:22 GMT

#232

On June 21 2010 05:09 Jibba wrote:OP, just find the shape you want and you can find the equivalent MS/Logitech/Razer for it (or Roccat if you're in Europe.)

I imported a Roccat Kone a while back because I liked the shape a lot. and within 3 months it crapped out on me.

Unless you really like the shape, go with Razer/Logitech over Roccat (unless you're in Finland, where I suppose you might get better customer support).

scph

Korea (South)262 Posts

June 20 2010 22:48 GMT

#233

I would never use anything else besides the Logitech Mini Optical because of its perfect weight, size, and sensitivity, but it seems the resolutions in SC2 are just too big for the mini optical's reading sensor.

I've been having stuttering problems when making quick mouse movements even in 1024x768 which never happened in BW because of its tiny 640x480 fixed resolution. I love the mini op but its sensor just hasn't been cutting it in SC2. Playable, but annoying. I have the MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 as well, but its size and weight strains my wrist and forearm after extensive SC playing; playing FPS with it is great though. It has an amazing reading sensor, now if there was a mini optical with the IE 3.0's sensor, that would be kickass.

So, I'd like to know, coming from firsthand experience players who used the logitech mini optical in BW, what mouse are you guys using for SC2 or are you guys in the same boat I am?

WhuazGoodJaggah

Lesotho777 Posts

June 20 2010 22:54 GMT

#234

i heard this one is that beast:

EleanorRIgby

Canada3923 Posts

June 20 2010 22:57 GMT

#235

RAZER DEATHADDER

best design for my hand, have tried several other razer mice but the DEATHADDER has the best feel for me be it FPS or RTS!

Sylvr

United States524 Posts

June 20 2010 22:59 GMT

#236

When I bought my Lachesis, I was of the mindset of "More DPI is better right? This one is the most expensive, so it's most likely the best." and I bought it. I was a little hurt when I found out that DPI that high (4000, lol) is completely and utterly useless for me and probably anyone else playing on a screen smaller than your bedroom wall.

Most likely, you'll be fine with any comfortable wired mouse that doesn't skip. Most people will probably get more benefit from just tweaking the in-game sensitivity until you find something that works. Even with absolutely perfect control on the user's part, the boasted performance specs on a mouse will have a near-negligible impact on your actual play (for an RTS, at least).

yomi

United States773 Posts

June 20 2010 23:02 GMT

#237

what new high dpi/resolution/quality sensor mouse has a shape most similar to the mini optical?

sudo.era

United States300 Posts

June 20 2010 23:12 GMT

#238

Like others have said so far, claw grip is best for RTS, so small mice are the way to go. I have pretty big hands and I can say for certain the Salmosa does no wrong. I even ordered the asian version, which is slightly smaller and a little lighter.

I guess the only exception would be if you have gigantor hands, and can claw grip those really long mice.

semantics

10040 Posts

June 20 2010 23:23 GMT

#239

On June 21 2010 05:50 FreshVegetables wrote:
mx518 is the best imo.

if you have small hands - it's hell on my lager hands, G500 is a larger more modern MX518

Mesha

Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts

June 20 2010 23:25 GMT

#240

It really doesn't matter what mouse you use. What is important is to know how to set it up so it's comfortable for you to play. If you buy some mouse with high DPI use the highest DPI and set in game mouse sensitivity to low as you find it comfortable. If you buy some mouse with low DPI use that DPI and set a little higher sensitivity.
Most people recommend also to turn of mouse acceleration if you use windows.
That's about it what is important about mouse. Don't be fooled with high price mouses, they offer almost nothing that middle price range mouses doesn't have.