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Lessons learned from WC3 (mostly technical issues)

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lowlypawn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 06:04:50
March 13 2009 06:02 GMT
#1
F$%^! lessons “Learned”, and i can't edit the title O well epic fail...


Here are a few little flaws in WC3 that really should have been fixed a long time ago. I don't know that Blizzard will repeat the same mistakes but for those lucky few who DO get into the SCII beta please make sure stupid little items like this don't get missed. I know most people will be focused on balance, units and stuff but please try to "see the trees in the forest" if you know what I mean.


* Add an option in the menu to disable the god damn windows key! I really don't like the fact I have to edit my registry or use a 3rd party program to do this.

* Same thing goes for ALT-TAB ^

* Please add a menu where we can easily configure ALL hot keys to whatever we choose , something similar to Warkeys would be nice!

* Add am EASY way to squelch your opponent. When their name “IllIIlIIlIIlIIlllI” (L & i) it's a little difficult. A box you could quickly check in game sure would be nice.

* ALT-QQ!?!?! Hello!!! how many countless games have been thrown away on this little gem. Option to disable please...


Anything else I missed?


ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 13 2009 06:06 GMT
#2
I think what you listed was the least of everyone's worries

I, for one, have never accidently Alt-qq'd, or Alt-tabbed for the matter
Writerptrk
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
March 13 2009 06:07 GMT
#3
I accidentally alt qq'd before when i use beastmaster =(
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
March 13 2009 06:07 GMT
#4
I did it in WC3, when the Show Health Bar option was not implemented, but in StarCraft ...
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
CompX
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada216 Posts
March 13 2009 06:10 GMT
#5
the start button
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 13 2009 06:12 GMT
#6
Meh. I've hit the windos key instead of control a few times when hotkeying, which pissed me off, but it wasn't game changing so I wouldn't not get SC2 because of features like disabling keys and stuff don't exist but it would be nice if they were changed.

/run-on sentence
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 13 2009 06:13 GMT
#7
i hope the annoying chains from war3's interface don't make a return. they were nice to look at the first couple of times, but after that became annoying

plus not letting people watch replays on bnet was a mistake
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
March 13 2009 06:19 GMT
#8
SC2 has the same alt functionality as War3, so disabling altQQ would be really nice (Q is obviously a great key to rebind something to).
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
March 13 2009 06:28 GMT
#9
On March 13 2009 15:19 Ingenol wrote:
SC2 has the same alt functionality as War3, so disabling altQQ would be really nice (Q is obviously a great key to rebind something to).

is this for real? hold down alt to see health? not sure how i feel about this
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
March 13 2009 06:43 GMT
#10
Yea, I hated Alt+Tab in WC3... would always be holding down Alt to see unit health and then try to tab through a control group to use an ability and get fucked and lose my hero or something....

I've never accidentally AltQQ but i'm sure it has happened.

jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
March 13 2009 06:50 GMT
#11
On March 13 2009 15:13 SoMuchBetter wrote:
plus not letting people watch replays on bnet was a mistake


This. The most retarted thing ever and if we can't watch replays on bnet for SC2 there will be hell to pay.

Other things include making an option to skip menu animations. SC was fast with no animation, but for some reason in war3 they put this slow sliding animation which means going from the main menu to joining a game takes so much longer than it should.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 13 2009 07:01 GMT
#12
Need to be able to manually alter what colors people appear as.

I'm colorblind
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
March 13 2009 07:09 GMT
#13
On March 13 2009 16:01 -orb- wrote:
Need to be able to manually alter what colors people appear as.

I'm colorblind


shift + tab
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
March 13 2009 07:10 GMT
#14
On March 13 2009 15:50 jigga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 15:13 SoMuchBetter wrote:
plus not letting people watch replays on bnet was a mistake


This. The most retarted thing ever and if we can't watch replays on bnet for SC2 there will be hell to pay.

Other things include making an option to skip menu animations. SC was fast with no animation, but for some reason in war3 they put this slow sliding animation which means going from the main menu to joining a game takes so much longer than it should.

Yes! I hate the stupid animations on bnet. Such a fucking piss off.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 07:18:53
March 13 2009 07:18 GMT
#15
On March 13 2009 16:09 Rice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 16:01 -orb- wrote:
Need to be able to manually alter what colors people appear as.

I'm colorblind


shift + tab


OH GREAT BECAUSE THE GREEN+RED IT CHANGES IT TO IS REALLY GREAT HUH?

Like 99.9% of the people that are color blind, I'M RED/GREEN color blind.

I want to be able to change it to like red/blue or yellow/blue etc
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 07:24:40
March 13 2009 07:24 GMT
#16
I have never once ALT-QQ'd out of a game accidentally in the 11 years I have played StarCraft.

I have never ALT-tabbed or ALT-QQ'd out of a WC3 game either. As for the windows button, take it out of your keyboard. It serves no real purpose anyway.

How the hell do you even do that accidentally?
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 07:44:15
March 13 2009 07:43 GMT
#17
windows key is useless
ctrl-escape does the same thing ffs
it was just put there to annoy gamers
IBM model m ftw!
Once again back is the incredible!
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
March 13 2009 07:51 GMT
#18
I believe this is why players had the ability to watch SC replays on Bnet and not WC3:

Watching replays with other players online was easy in SC1 because the map file was included in the replay file. Therefore, players without the map that the game was played on would still be able to watch the replay.

In Warcraft 3, map files were a lot larger, some over 4.5 mb. If the map file was included in the replay file, some player's replay folder would be massive.

It's very likely that SC2 map files will be a lot larger than WC3 map files.

Would you rather replays be 100kb or be 5mb but you're able to watch them on Bnet?

Blizzard believes the costs out weigh the benefits.
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
March 13 2009 08:06 GMT
#19
On March 13 2009 16:51 SearingShadow wrote:
I believe this is why players had the ability to watch SC replays on Bnet and not WC3:

Watching replays with other players online was easy in SC1 because the map file was included in the replay file. Therefore, players without the map that the game was played on would still be able to watch the replay.

In Warcraft 3, map files were a lot larger, some over 4.5 mb. If the map file was included in the replay file, some player's replay folder would be massive.

It's very likely that SC2 map files will be a lot larger than WC3 map files.

Would you rather replays be 100kb or be 5mb but you're able to watch them on Bnet?

Blizzard believes the costs out weigh the benefits.


if you are watching a replay of any 1v1 game, the maps wont be over 500 kb (most would run about 200).
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 13 2009 08:24 GMT
#20
On March 13 2009 16:18 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 16:09 Rice wrote:
On March 13 2009 16:01 -orb- wrote:
Need to be able to manually alter what colors people appear as.

I'm colorblind


shift + tab


OH GREAT BECAUSE THE GREEN+RED IT CHANGES IT TO IS REALLY GREAT HUH?

Like 99.9% of the people that are color blind, I'M RED/GREEN color blind.

I want to be able to change it to like red/blue or yellow/blue etc



hahahahahaha colorblind rage ftw!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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