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ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued - Page 3

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HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
April 05 2025 10:03 GMT
#41
GLHF. It was good while it lasted🙂
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
April 05 2025 10:17 GMT
#42
Been there since 2010, thanks for the memories and so long
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Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
April 05 2025 10:18 GMT
#43
GG
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-05 10:23:24
April 05 2025 10:23 GMT
#44
On April 05 2025 09:24 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 08:01 ejozl wrote:
And they have a reputation, they cannot put up a crappy product just because the community money didn't pour in.

esl -starcraft was awesome, I rly hope we see a return someday in a game that is not too dissimilar, or who knows sc2 could get a resurrection, just see wc3.

Tbf crowdfunding worked out really really well with Dota2 that was valve handling it who arent also known for taking charity but they it for their official tournament anyways.

They had stupidly hyped and big events because of it although they stopped doing it recently cause the game wasnt their focus iirc.


Crowdfunding worked for Valve because people like hats for their heroes and Valve took 75% of the cut themselves while the tournament got 25%. Once the model changed away from cosmetics the crowd support for the actual tournament was something like 3% of what it was before.

Whatever happens for SC will be much more limited with no access to the game and a lack of centralisation

Very sad to say goodbye
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10667 Posts
April 05 2025 12:27 GMT
#45
RIP! It was an awesome ride.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
April 05 2025 14:40 GMT
#46
So the last GSL was is fact Dark defeating Maru.
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1478 Posts
April 05 2025 18:44 GMT
#47
On April 05 2025 23:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
So the last GSL was is fact Dark defeating Maru.

gsl is not over. we have multiple small leaks suggesting there will be another season, just like we had multiple EWC leaks. ESL we didnt have any leaks so not surprising that shut down.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1194 Posts
April 05 2025 18:50 GMT
#48
To clarify, some were still thinking this was about 2025 but it's about the end of EPT SC2.
ESL Pro Tour for StarCraft II will not continue in 2025 and beyond.


Thanks ESL for producing some of the best SC2 events ever, and stepping in when (it seemed) Blizzard did not want anything to do with SC2 esports.

I know grassroots SC2 will continue to exists but this is about professional SC2 which is in dire straits now. In the end, the level of play will not continue to climb without professionals, but the entertainment could still be there. SC2 is very well respected and loved still, do not forget. If the current (and why not past) greats find the time to occasionally particiapate in (mostly online) events, I bet the interest will be there for the organizers to stay net zero.

The biggest concern for me is the maintenance of the map pool and multilpayer balance. This has to be at least as big of a deal for Blizzard as WC3, so some form of support is expected. Let's hope Blizzard has the humility to gather pro/community feedback for balance, and pick the maps from future TL Map Contests.

All in all, this announcement was waaaaay overdue. It is no coincidence the news came out right after the EWC annoucement, but something could have been said earlier in my opinion. Still, I am glad SC2 is free to play, the servers are online (except rip China), and with balance mods and maps we the community still have the power to shape this esports as we see fit.
starcraft2.fi
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1808 Posts
April 05 2025 19:11 GMT
#49
I can't believe Apollo ruined the game for a second time.
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Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
April 05 2025 20:25 GMT
#50
Thank you so much for the tons and tons of great SC2 content - thrilling storylines, heroic rivalry and unbelievably great games.
I really hope we can crowdfund (obviously much smaller) community events with passionate organizers like TakeTV, Wardi, Pig and the likes.
And maybe there will be some competitive SC because of the EWC with some qualifiers, too.
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States361 Posts
April 06 2025 01:45 GMT
#51
We knew this was coming as the scene was in limbo for the past seven or so months. The end of an era.

I started rewatching SC2 during early COVID times, so I'm sad to see this chapter come to a close. After this year's EWC who knows if there will be more premier SC2 tournaments?
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines91 Posts
April 06 2025 02:51 GMT
#52
RIP ESL Pro Tour for SC2

At least GSL will still continue based on leaks, but things are not going well on the SC2 front.

Also what does this mean for the balance council? IIRC those guys are working alongside ESL to do balance patches for SC2. What's gonna happen to them now?
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
April 06 2025 03:09 GMT
#53
I can only imagine this means either:

1. The Brood War scene will flourish and grow even bigger
2. They have SC3 in the works

Haven't watched much SC2 past WoL, only really the world championships and EWC, there's just been too many balance changes for me to keep up with and also I think most of the casters are really bad, but it's been exciting regardless.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1808 Posts
April 06 2025 03:42 GMT
#54
On April 06 2025 12:09 Freezard wrote:
I can only imagine this means either:

1. The Brood War scene will flourish and grow even bigger
2. They have SC3 in the works

Haven't watched much SC2 past WoL, only really the world championships and EWC, there's just been too many balance changes for me to keep up with and also I think most of the casters are really bad, but it's been exciting regardless.


Blizzard making sc3 would be the biggest error ever from a company that has been making nothing but massive errors for well over a decade.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6829 Posts
April 06 2025 14:20 GMT
#55
Well, now we have to wait 5+ years until Blizz or MS see the great opportunity to make a StarCraft 2: Recrafted to milk some more
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-06 18:13:36
April 06 2025 18:08 GMT
#56
Really doubt blizzard is currently working on sc3, and I highly doubt that's in the plans going forward. At best we will get spinoffs using the IP.

Even if blizzard was to make a sc3 I just don't have a lot of confidence in them at the moment.

I mean honestly all good things must come to an end. Those early days feel like so so long ago. I think about the things I was doing at those times and where I was at in life. Crazy how much the internet culture and my own life has changed over those 15 years or so

Pulling all nighters to catch proleague or code s live, inevitably fall asleep at some point. Going to a kbbq restaurant for the first time with some friends and one of them wearing a TL shirt just in case anyone knew about sc lmao... Streaming taking off, esports actually being a real thing.

Feel like I'm just rambling but it's just a little bit of a strange feeling for sc2 esports to be "basically done". Glad I was here to witness and participate in the community in whatever small ways over the years.
LaughNgamezYT
Profile Joined September 2020
15 Posts
April 06 2025 18:12 GMT
#57
It's a huge chunk of my life SC esports, going to Korea watching Korean SC2 5 nights a week in highschool.

SC2 will become what Broodwar is a small community with a lot of history and many people still passionate about the game.
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
April 06 2025 18:31 GMT
#58
Farewell...I was with sc2 since day one. It feels only proper to be here when it ends...So much emotions, good and bad, so much excitement over balance changes and endless forum and twitch chat fights over it...That was a proof that u cared so much.

Thanks sc2. Will always remember. I still play sometimes, but it's not the same as it was...But still, this game will be always in my heart in the special place.
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alfredwilson49
Profile Joined April 2025
3 Posts
April 07 2025 00:43 GMT
#59
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Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
194 Posts
April 07 2025 01:18 GMT
#60
Not hard to see coming--so long and thanks for all the fish! Still remember watching Tassadar nuke the Overmind in elementary school and falling in love with SC for the first time. Fast-forward to downloading Idra replays during beta and then watching qualifiers for the first GSL. What a wild ride it's been. Starcraft has been such a source of joy for so long, can't be anything but thankful for that.

Will still watch and support the scene no doubt, but playing Z on this patch as a mortal is supremely irritating. If SC2 ends in this game state, that'll be the real tragedy for me lol.
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