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lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
June 04 2024 20:54 GMT
#341
There is nothing more impressive to me than winning Code S. Until Serral does that, he can't be the GOAT.
SC2 Mapmaker
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1162 Posts
June 04 2024 21:31 GMT
#342
On June 04 2024 03:49 Glorfindelio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 06:44 imData wrote:
On June 03 2024 06:41 Locutos wrote:
On June 03 2024 06:39 imData wrote:
I can't understand how Maru can even be considered ahead of Serral after tonight.

Two 4-0 in 3 months, the second one being against Serral in service when Maru is supposed to be a full time player.

This is just shameful for him at this point.


If having Maru's skill is shameful, oh boy, how I wanted that shame for myself!!


It's shameful for a player like Maru who's arguably supposed to be the best player in the world to lose against a player who couldn't train as much as he's supposed to.

Especially in such a one-sided final when he also lost 4-0 just 3 months ago.


I understand advocating for your favorite player, but I find posts like these really distasteful. I'm sure Maru feels some level of angst that he can't bring the level of play he customarily displays to his series with Serral--you have no idea what goes on inside a player's head. While some posters don't argue in good faith with the GOAT discussions, which leads to hyperbolic posting in response, it baffles me when people attack a player (Maru or Serral) that has given this game and us thousands of hours of entertainment. It's a privilege to witness their insane talent, skill and dedication. Arguing with fans/forum heads is one thing, trying to cast shame on the second greatest or greatest player of all time is dumb.


hear hear
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 19 2024 01:09 GMT
#343
My apologies for being out of the loop. Is Serral not playing full time? What's he up to?
maru lover forever
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1359 Posts
July 19 2024 01:12 GMT
#344
On July 19 2024 10:09 Incognoto wrote:
My apologies for being out of the loop. Is Serral not playing full time? What's he up to?


Feels like the completly wrong thread for that question, but in short: Currently, Serral is fulfilling his military service in Finland. He is however still allowed to compete (there is a special "Athlete Unit" in the Finish Miliatry). So while he can't train freely as much as before and can't compete constantly, he is still able to do the important things, like going to the World Cup.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland229 Posts
July 19 2024 08:28 GMT
#345
This debate could go on and on, but looks like Serral is RoaT (richest) right now.

Maru Approx. Total Winnings:$1,317,292

Serral Approx. Total Winnings:$1,506,631
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7403 Posts
July 19 2024 10:49 GMT
#346
On July 19 2024 17:28 Ch3rry wrote:
This debate could go on and on, but looks like Serral is RoaT (richest) right now.

Maru Approx. Total Winnings:$1,317,292

Serral Approx. Total Winnings:$1,506,631


Has been for 2 years now
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary492 Posts
July 19 2024 13:25 GMT
#347
On July 19 2024 10:12 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2024 10:09 Incognoto wrote:
My apologies for being out of the loop. Is Serral not playing full time? What's he up to?


Feels like the completly wrong thread for that question, but in short: Currently, Serral is fulfilling his military service in Finland. He is however still allowed to compete (there is a special "Athlete Unit" in the Finish Miliatry). So while he can't train freely as much as before and can't compete constantly, he is still able to do the important things, like going to the World Cup.


Yes, but he is still not full time like others. Hard to believe it won't hurt him in the long run.
Why so serious?
sc2turtlepants
Profile Joined December 2023
60 Posts
July 19 2024 18:05 GMT
#348
On July 19 2024 19:49 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2024 17:28 Ch3rry wrote:
This debate could go on and on, but looks like Serral is RoaT (richest) right now.

Maru Approx. Total Winnings:$1,317,292

Serral Approx. Total Winnings:$1,506,631


Has been for 2 years now



You're close! According to the Wayback machine's archive of esportsearnings it looks like Serral passed Rogue for the #1 spot at the tail end of 2020 or the very start of 2021. So ~3.5 years
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