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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1203 Posts
May 19 2023 00:19 GMT
#21
On May 19 2023 07:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2023 06:27 CicadaSC wrote:
Serral should play or he's a bad word. It's important for his legacy.

On another note, have any nonkorean pros confirmed they will be participating?


With the decreased prize pool, I significantly doubt it. The money to be gained from winning (IF you win) isn't worth it after travel expenses are considered.

I would LOVE to see the top foreign pros make another attempt and if they are set up well enough financially to be able to make the trip all the better. But I can't really blame them anymore for not wanting to try it. Even if they win, it's not really worth it and winning a Code S is something no foreigner has ever come close to achieving before.

Yeah, it would be a huge commitment. Adapting to the Code S format, adapting to living in a new country, etc would be a lot of stress. Even beyond the risk of an early exit from Code S, moving to Korea could harm performance in other competitions because of latency/jet lag/general disruption.

If Serral made a commitment to move to Korea and play several consecutive seasons of Code S I think he'd have a good chance of winning, but I doubt he'd just sweep in and win. Reynor would also have chances if he truly committed (maybe living in Korea would even fix Clem's TvT.) But with the current prize pools in Code S vs the foreign scene there's no reason to make that commitment. It's sad because Serral/Clem/Reynor/Oliveira playing would probably attract more much needed attention.

Some rich fan should put out a bounty for the first foreigner to make a Code S final
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1639 Posts
May 19 2023 00:41 GMT
#22
On May 19 2023 09:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2023 07:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 19 2023 06:27 CicadaSC wrote:
Serral should play or he's a bad word. It's important for his legacy.

On another note, have any nonkorean pros confirmed they will be participating?


With the decreased prize pool, I significantly doubt it. The money to be gained from winning (IF you win) isn't worth it after travel expenses are considered.

I would LOVE to see the top foreign pros make another attempt and if they are set up well enough financially to be able to make the trip all the better. But I can't really blame them anymore for not wanting to try it. Even if they win, it's not really worth it and winning a Code S is something no foreigner has ever come close to achieving before.


With the Patreon so far, it's contributing $200k already, which means the prize pool is higher than 2022, unless you mean decreased in general the last several years, but hopefully the crowdfunding will increase a bit more to match that too

Didn't reynor try last season? It was just forgettable because he didn't get far. Would love to see him try again and maybe avoid the Korean Terran powerhouses
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4404 Posts
May 19 2023 00:45 GMT
#23
Awesome news I never expected. Hopefully that also means the finals and semis will be on different days again.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51444 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-19 01:59:37
May 19 2023 01:58 GMT
#24
wait, when did kevin seo leave his role as ceo?

edit: looks like kevin moved to a different role (chief brand officer) a couple of years ago, interesting.
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
294 Posts
May 19 2023 04:03 GMT
#25
woohoo!
claire_thu
Profile Joined April 2023
5 Posts
May 19 2023 06:45 GMT
#26
Who's still watching GSL? Can't imagine having more than 1-2k viewers
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4189 Posts
May 19 2023 06:49 GMT
#27
meh
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
May 19 2023 08:59 GMT
#28
absolute awesome news! Happy for this change! GSL restored to former glory
Faker is the GOAT!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25130 Posts
May 19 2023 14:48 GMT
#29
On May 19 2023 01:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
This was so cool, you could hear from State's voice he was genuinely so hyped and surprised xD

Wish that GSL could have had crowdfunding earlier, but i suppose it may have given them a bad look or whatnot.
The dream would be if they re-expand to Ro24 or somehow allow for a tiny bit of new blood so that the scene can stay interesting for a long time

Ultimately the prize money and re-expanding is more critical for the medium/long-term prospects of the tournament, over having it in studio, at least for me. Seeing some fresh blood able to break through, as well as an incentive for our old favourites to stick around will go further in keeping interested eyes on it, and donating to Patreons

Of course the ideal is to do both.

Would have been nice if Blizzard had kept up some content like Warchests to help monetise tournaments too, but top level SC is still one of my favourite watches so effectively paying for it is a pretty good value proposition, and maybe one that could have been investigated earlier
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
May 19 2023 15:53 GMT
#30
This makes me feel MUCH better.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
May 20 2023 10:16 GMT
#31
Hurrah!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
May 20 2023 13:26 GMT
#32
amazing :D Live GSL is just something else
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
May 20 2023 21:49 GMT
#33
Great news!!
Offline GSL is the real one.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
May 20 2023 22:04 GMT
#34
Incredible news. Huge thanks to everyone for supporting the game that they love. Long live Starcraft!
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
ExpatRights
Profile Joined February 2021
53 Posts
May 21 2023 04:13 GMT
#35
lol at suggesting they run better english ads... if there was much money in it they'd be doing it already no?
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
May 22 2023 01:53 GMT
#36
Great!
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
May 22 2023 14:59 GMT
#37
Hell yeah
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
May 23 2023 06:06 GMT
#38
So do we know by now how they will distribute the Patreon money?
MaxPax
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3360 Posts
May 23 2023 06:27 GMT
#39
On May 23 2023 15:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
So do we know by now how they will distribute the Patreon money?

I think it was said at some point that the donated money will go to prize pool, but capping at 30k per season. But in term of the details, like if ALL the money will go to the prizepool or there will be a split, or what if the total is more than 90k for this year, ect. hasnt been confirmed yet.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10331 Posts
May 23 2023 21:34 GMT
#40
On May 23 2023 15:27 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 15:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
So do we know by now how they will distribute the Patreon money?

I think it was said at some point that the donated money will go to prize pool, but capping at 30k per season. But in term of the details, like if ALL the money will go to the prizepool or there will be a split, or what if the total is more than 90k for this year, ect. hasnt been confirmed yet.


Wait, only $30k bonus per season?? Or is it $30k total max for 1st place?
I get they may want to conserve money for future seasons and not use it all up, but the cap should probably be whatever brings the prize pool very close to what it was in 2022.
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