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On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now.
If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance.
Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.
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On July 02 2022 01:00 tilhorizon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2022 23:18 MarianoSC2 wrote:
My rank would be:
Reynor, Maru, Dark, herO, Clem, Heromarine, Bunny, Neeb, Ragnarok, Creator some may not agree but this is a list you could work with its reasonable and maybe just slightly off but putting clem on 3 , is , how do i put it , i try not to get warned again , so i try to use only nice words by all respect a professionell powerrank should reflect what is most likely true, what will be the most likely outcome what is most logical backed by data and past results ,not personal preferences clem on 3 when you check his offline records when you check how he is doing vs koreans in similar tournaments and compare that to dark how on lovely earth could you put him in front of dark the bookmakers dont want to lose money dark is way ahead alligulac not perfect but a indicator agrees also on a possible h2h outcome history agrees if you make a list with all the players in valencia ,if all of them have to face clem and dark the most likely outcome will be that dark wins more games than clem it has nothing to do with disrespect just beeing objectiv i wonder why sc2 casters ore powerrank makers almost never check with bookmakers and ignore past results statistics and propable outcome imagine a football game when you ask the reporter who will be favorite who will most likely win normaly thay say what the bookmakers say like in almost any other sport , but not in sc2
I mean I agree with Dark > Clem but it's definitely not as clear as you seem to think, I think both opinions are legitimate.
Clem doesn't have the best track record with international tournaments but we know his skill is right up there and does reputation / track record in a particular tournament circuit really hold a higher value than current skill level? It's definitely arguable.
Btw herO also hasn't shown the track record of being able to perform in premier tournaments since his return
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I was brought here by twitter.
You got it wrong.
Kind regards,
Borsti
(P.S. xoxo luv u kthxbye)
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Can someone tell me where is Serral? What happened to him?
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On July 02 2022 04:37 StaNi wrote:
Can someone tell me where is Serral? What happened to him?
He didn't get an automatic invite because he got knocked out of a tournament too early, then he chose not to participate via open qualifiers, citing "personal reasons". He did say he still plans on participating in the rest of the major tournaments throughout the year.
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A bit of hindsight bias on mine after day 1, but still think I would've had something close to this
10 ByuN
9 DRG
8 ShoWTimE
7 Solar
6 HM
5 Bunny
4 Clem
3 herO
2 Maru
1 Reynor
I so so wanted to put Maru 1, but I can't in good faith ;-;
I'm disappointed in you Mr. Poopi for suggesting Clem and Maru are even close >
edit: forgot Dark, prob would be above herO
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After day 1 i would never put Solar and Byun in the top 10. Ragnarok and Neeb deserve to be there
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Dark looked god tier in GSL Ro10, I’d promote him based on that
I’ve no real quibbles though, there’s a lot of question marks with various players. Can herO get his first big result since military? Can Clem transfer his EU results to the international sphere? Etc etc
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If Reynor becomes a top 10 player with his P can we put him twice on future lists (One Z one P)?
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On July 02 2022 08:30 mark_lenders wrote:
After day 1 i would never put Solar and Byun in the top 10. Ragnarok and Neeb deserve to be there
I tried to maintain impartiality to day 1 results, but I'd agree about Ragnarok and Neeb. I think DRG manages to keep his spot even though he lost to Ragnarok, because his wins against ShoWTimE should boot the protoss from the top 10.
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I think this power ranking could have been better if it extended to the top 16 or 24 players.
People have strong opinions about their favorite players or rivals, and love to argue about whether player X is top Y. The longer the list, the more ink spilled over it. Win-win-win for everyone.
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On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender.
How about now?
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The only right and final list is;
10. Neeb
9. Bunny
8. Ragnarok
7. Clem
6. HeroMarine
5. hero
4. Dark
3. Maru
2. Serral
1. Raynor
User was warned for this post.
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On July 03 2022 10:44 Starcloud wrote:
The only right and final list is;
10. Neeb
9. Bunny
8. Ragnarok
7. Clem
6. HeroMarine
5. hero
4. Dark
3. Maru
2. Serral
1. Raynor
Your power list contains a player who didn't participate in the tournament, so I don't know about "right and final". Of course, I suppose this may just be your own personal list of top 10 players that excludes Rogue... shrug
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On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender. How about now?
Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.
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On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender. How about now? Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently.
i said this before the current tournament?
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On July 03 2022 15:23 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender. How about now? Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently. i said this before the current tournament?
Yeah still neeb is so hard to judge result wise as he mostly plays NA and maybe some open cups sometimes and in NA there are just scarlett and astrea to judge him by.
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On July 03 2022 20:45 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2022 15:23 CicadaSC wrote:On July 03 2022 11:03 Cricketer12 wrote:On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender. How about now? Yes, let's use the current tournament to judge where to put neeb on the pretournament list. Upsets happen. Neeb hasn't performed recently. i said this before the current tournament? Yeah still neeb is so hard to judge result wise as he mostly plays NA and maybe some open cups sometimes and in NA there are just scarlett and astrea to judge him by.
i'll agree he's hard to judge, but he clean sweeped open cup and 3-0d byun just before this. his form is nutty. rip his run tho creator played well and clutched that ^^
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On July 03 2022 10:06 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2022 01:50 QOGQOG wrote:On July 02 2022 01:37 CicadaSC wrote:
no neeb on this list? I think he will win the tournament honestly. his condition is kind of scarily good right now. If by "win the tournament" you mean "get eliminated in the group stages," sure. I mean seriously, have you seen his performance in any international tournament of late? He's not even the NA player with the best chance. Edit: okay, my Neeb hate was misplaced. But I still don't think he's anywhere near being a title contender. How about now?
Now he absolutely did not win the tournament and didn't get anywhere close. Even if he'd beaten Creator, Maru or Reynor would have absolutely destroyed him. Sure, I underestimated him a little, but you overestimated him quite a lot. He's not a title contender until he, you know, contends for a title.
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