• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
TeamLiquid Liquipedia LiquidDota LiquidLegends
EDT 23:37
CEST 05:37
KST 12:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[BSL15] Ro16 Recap Pt.13Lore of the Nexus: The Angiris Council0DHM Valencia: Power Rank52[TSL9] Prize Pool & Talent18Code S RO10 - Group B, Day 1 Preview (Season 2)7
Community News
2022 AfreecaTV Challengers Starleague Season 212BSL 2v2 ProLeague x ShieldBattery - SIGN UP NOW!14Code S RO10 Groups announced, RO20 final results1ESL Open #128: ByuN, MaxPax, Scarlett win3Artosis to leave Korea after GSL Season 3, possibility of online GSL casts?87
StarCraft 2
General
Doublelift on State of SC2 and the Various Regions Hitting Your Skill Ceiling on Ladder Forbidden Ground buildings Looking for a herO game Rogue & Trap out for DHM Valencia?
Tourneys
DreamHack Masters: Valencia 2022 - Main Event [TSL 9] Qualifiers HSC XXI Qualifiers [GSL 2022] Code S:Season 2 - Ro10 Group A ProBots 2022 Season 2
Strategy
herO's PvZ Simple Questions Simple Answers What should I try to work on to improve my TvZ [G] YAKS LOTV: Yet Another hotKey Setup - zerg
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [A] SC Real Scale
External Content
Mutation # 324 Violent Night Mutation # 323 Well Trained Mutation # 322 Warp Zone Mutation # 321 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Is present Mini one of the best BW performers ever ASL14 Wild Card BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 2022 AfreecaTV Challengers Starleague Season 2 repmastered.app: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[RCG 2021] - Ro16 Group Stage - This Weekend! Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM 2022 Season 2 Hawk vs Artosis Show match July 6th 50$ prize pool
Strategy
before the gosus A new RTS map for scbw Project: Strat Update ZvT Guardian Hydra Optimized Strategy
Other Games
General Games
The PlayStation 5 Final Fantasy XIV Path of Exile Diablo Immoral Crossfire: Legion - A new RTS combining C&C and SC
Dota 2
Official Dota and Chess General Discussion [DPC 21-22] Tour 3 Discussion/LR TL.net migration megathread + LiquidDota archive LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net LiquidDota Site Rules
League of Legends
[Patch 12.7] Arcana Skins Release Discussion LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net [Summer Split] LoL Esports General Discussion [Patch Notes] Release General Discussion
Heroes of the Storm
HotS: WP and Funny Moments Lore of the Nexus: The Angiris Council Mapping Heroes: Battleground Stats
Hearthstone
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread British Empire Mini Mafia II Chezinu streak(s) Mafia Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector TL.net Community Site Consolidation
Fan Clubs
Day[9] Fan Club soO Fan Club Zest Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [TV] HBO Game of Thrones [Manga] One Piece
Sports
NBA General Discussion 2021 - 2022 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion 2021 NFL/CFB Season McBoner: A hockey love story
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Starcraft 2 No longer going on top of Start Bar The Ultimate Mouse Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Helping
ChristianS
On Radicalization and S…
plasmidghost
Bravery and cowardice…
Starlightsun
My daughter wants to pla…
JoinTheRain
On gun violence in America…
MrBitter
First time having "S*X".
Garnet
Gomorrah
Broodwar4lyf
Getting Back to it..!.20 years…
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 892 users

Is enough being done about ergonomics/posture?

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
145 Posts
May 20 2022 00:59 GMT
#1
I feel like RSI is a really bad and somewhat fixable problem, especially on the Korean scene. Every pro-gamer should see a posture coach at some point.

"Gaming Chairs" should be made for the sole reason of keeping backs and wrists healthy by encouraging good posture. Mouses (and mousepads) should be designed with ergonomics in mind -- I feel like I don't see any wrist-wrests on player mousepads. I'm sick of seeing Byun take timeouts in games because he's in excruciating pain, or Maru's level of play go up and down depending on how his wrist is feeling, or seeing someone like MVP have to retire early.

And if a company/team sponsor was actually able to give its players an advantage and keep them off the IR with products that helped the gamers, that would make much more sense as an advertisement that choosing a telecom company or which airline to fly based on eSports tournament results. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden534 Posts
May 20 2022 06:42 GMT
#2
Having some education in ergonomics is great. Having a dedicated ergonomics person to help the professionals would be great. But having 1 per team is overkill as they are needed more as a temporary consultant than as a coworker.

Having a few ergonomics coaches in the scene that gets hired to help players improve posture and get gear that is fitting for them, would probably be a really good thing.

Ergonomics is very individual, so it is hard to do a good job with each player. Big Gabe needs something completely different from what Babymarine needs.
Add to that the market wanting to sell things and giving misleading information. E.g. the early expensive gaming chairs were worse than good office chairs. Office work is very similar to gaming and it has been developed for decades. Current gaming chairs are way better than the old ones but I haven't read any recent studies on comparisons with office chairs.

It is a good thought. I doubt SC2 have the means to keep it stable, though.
How are LoL, DotA etc. doing it?
Random Platinum EU
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
465 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-20 10:16:54
May 20 2022 10:16 GMT
#3
I think pro players like if you are driving car, have to stop playing during one/half an hour every two hours.
It s the better way to preserve from injury in my point of view.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2088 Posts
May 20 2022 10:24 GMT
#4
its too late for me, i already look like a shrimp
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @ziggystarcraft
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
851 Posts
May 20 2022 11:29 GMT
#5
After awhile, even the most stringent measures do not prevent repetitive injuries, only stymies them.

Everything you're saying is totally true, but we're talking about pro gamers who are abusing their wrists for probably 10 + hours daily 350 + days a year.
ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
145 Posts
May 23 2022 21:20 GMT
#6
On May 20 2022 20:29 Beelzebub1 wrote:
After awhile, even the most stringent measures do not prevent repetitive injuries, only stymies them.

Everything you're saying is totally true, but we're talking about pro gamers who are abusing their wrists for probably 10 + hours daily 350 + days a year.


That could be the biggest answer of all -- make it part of the culture to get up, walk around, and stretch out your wrists for AT LEAST 10 minutes per hour of practice, and icing/resting/stretching for 30 minutes every 4 or so hours, instead of burning through 10 straight hours.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
20:00
OSC Elite Rising Star
davetesta67
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 298
Nina 297
CosmosSc2 155
Forgg! 147
aXVindicta 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 6208
Shuttle 2455
Artosis2124
Leta 421
Killer 25
Bale 12
Dota 2
febbydoto131
League of Legends
Trikslyr146
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1737
C9.Mang01540
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby269
Other Games
tarik_tv22998
summit1g20663
shahzam6135
FrodaN422
WinterStarcraft396
Maynarde181
Mew2King115
kaitlyn104
RuFF_SC225
ROOTCatZ15
ChuDatz3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick7265
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
ESL CS:GO4945
Dota 2
BeyondTheSummit572
Other Games
BasetradeTV98
StarCraft 2
OGamingTV SC2 48
Blizzard YouTube
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 32
• Vindicta 27
• Hupsaiya 14
• musti20045 14
• CaptainNewbi1 4
• nightgamer69 1
• Poblha
• Migwel
• Laughngamez YouTube
• LaughNgamez Trovo
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• Gussbus
• CSOeSports
• intothetv
• aXEnki
• Alpha X_
StarCraft: Brood War
• sscaitournament2
• BSLYoutube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• STPLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo911
• Stunt338
Other Games
• Scarra2937
• Shiphtur851
Upcoming Events
TeamLiquid StarLeague
7h 24m
OSC
10h 24m
Showmatch
21h 24m
Artosis vs Hawk
TeamLiquid StarLeague
1d 7h
TeamLiquid StarLeague
2 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
3 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
3 days
ESL Pro Tour
3 days
[ Show More ]
TeamLiquid StarLeague
4 days
BSL: ProLeague
4 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
4 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
4 days
ESL Pro Tour
5 days
ESL Pro Tour
5 days
TeamLiquid StarLeague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Deathfate Pro Team League
DH Masters Valencia
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 5
ESL Challenger Valencia 2022

Ongoing

BSL Season 15: GosuLeague
Luck Over Strength
STL37
RCG 2021
KCM Ladies Race Survival 2022 Season 2
Nine-Tathlon Invitational
HoneyCai Friendlies Season 4
GAN Race Survival Season 4
CWCL Season 4
WSL Season 3
FS Mania
Big Baby Popularity Contest
KCM Race Survival 2022 Season 2
BSL Season 15
NiuPi Cup 7: Soma vs sOrry
WTL 2022 Summer
2022 GSL S2: Code S
StarCraft II: NationWars 7
Community Clash League S4
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Quals.
Masters Clash Champ. 2022
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 6
IEM Cologne 2022

Upcoming

ASL Season 14: Wild Card Qualifier
Deathfate Pro Team League 2: Qualifier
Future Cup 4 (U18)
NiuPi Cup CN vs KR 1: Mihu vs Mighty
TOP Challenge
2022 ACS Season 2
Endless Battle 4: Mihu vs Zhanhun
IEM Katowice 2023
2022 GSL: ST 2
DH Masters Atlanta
2022 GSL S3: Code S
TSL 9
HomeStory Cup XXI
X-Cup Summer 2022
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 10
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 9
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 8
X-Cup Summer 2022 - Qual. 7
IEM Rio Major 2022
ESL Challenger Melbourne 2022
ESL Pro League Season 16
BLAST Premier Fall Groups
ESL Challenger League S42 NA
ESL Challenger League S42 EU
ESL Challenger League S42 AP
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2022 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.