• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:59
CEST 10:59
KST 17:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-62PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10797 users

[TSL8] - Week 2 Preview/Week 1 Review

Forum Index > SC2 General
2 CommentsPost a Reply

[TSL8] - Week 2 Preview/Week 1 Review

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
December 3rd, 2021 02:17 GMT
Week 1 Recap
& Best Games

Zest and Clem out in earlier shocks

Week 2 Preview
Maru vs Serral incoming?

Brackets and standings on (Wiki)Liquipedia

VODs on Twitch
Day 1 - Day 2 - Day 3

Week 1 Review: Zest and Clem go out early

by Wax

TSL7 was one of the most 'normal' TeamLiquid Starleague tournaments to date, with barely any of the upsets that defined previous editions of the tournament. In contrast, TSL8 has gotten off to a crazy start, with top players Clem and Zest already out after one week of play. Even reigning Code S champion Cure has been sent down to the lower bracket early on, where one more loss will spell the end of his tournament run.

[image loading]


The upper bracket is where all the chaos started, with Zest losing 0-2 to RagnaroK and Clem giving up a 1-2 loss to herO. As is often the case, cheesy tactics were key to the underdog victories. Zest simply couldn't find a way to effectively hold against RagnaroK's Queen-Walks, while Clem was undone by herO's throwback Glaive-Adept + Phoenix attack. Curiously enough, herO himself said the strategy wasn't necessarily good—he just thought the ancient strategy might catch Clem off guard.

Meanwhile, Cure was sent to the lower bracket with a 1-2 loss to Polish Terran Spirit (formerly souL). Whether it was due to intense VOD study or just good ol' fashioned luck, Spirit constantly found openings to land deadly drops in Cure's main. Nerves did seem to affect Spirit as he looked to close out a monumental upset, as he very nearly threw game three at the 99% completion mark. Thankfully, for Spirit's sanity, he recovered and sealed the 2-1 victory.

The week 1 underdogs were impressive even in defeat. GuMiho earned TSL7 champion Trap's respect after outplaying him in a straight-up macro game on Hardwire, while Creator came oh-so-close to taking a 2-0 against TSL6 champion Dark before allowing the comeback victory.

[image loading]

Alas, eight players had to depart the tournament after just one week of play. In the case of GuMiho, Harstem, Astrea, and MaNa, most fans probably weren't too surprised to see them eliminated from such a strong pool of players. But seeing Zest and Clem go out in the first week was certainly a surprise, even though it was somewhat foreseeable with hindsight.

TvT and TvP have always been Clem's biggest problem in big international events, and a single 3-2 victory over Trap in DHM Winter doesn't fix the TvP portion immediately. Still, the upper bracket loss to herO was a bit of a surprise, given the lowered expectations we have for players who are only a few months returned from military service. However, the lower match loss to Dream was probably closer to 50/50 at the outset. In a vacuum, would Clem 0-2 Dream really have been a huge shock in any event?

Zest was never the most consistent player to begin with (he actually missed a Code S season this year which is ridiculous for a title contender), and his recent form has seen him become even more unpredictable. Thus, maybe we should have seen his lower bracket loss to Elazer coming, especially with some fans surmising that his impending military service is finally catching up to him mentally. Then again, he did just beat Dark and Reynor in Netease's NeXT tournament, so TSL8 may just have been yet another Zest-ish fluctuation.

Recommended Games

Creator vs Dark, Game 2 (at 4h 53m40s): Nothing gets the blood flowing like a good base trade! A late-game Protoss army can be terrifying to fight head-on, and Dark opted to try and steal a victory by diverting his Swarm and attacking his opponent's bases instead. When the dust settled, we were left with a classic scenario where one player has a strong economy and weak army, while the other player is left with basically zero income but a deadly standing force.

Ultimately, the game was decided more on the difference in information than economy or army. Dark had a much better grasp of what the game state was after the basetrade, and methodically utilized that knowledge to manufacture a victory.

Scarlett vs ByuN - Game 3: (at 6h 5m 40s): As is often the case, we had Muta-Ling-Bane vs Terran bio to thank for a thrilling and action-packed match. What differentiates this game from other TvZ's was the ending: like in Creator vs Dark, one player was left with all the econ, while the other was left with all the army.

While this wasn't the cleanest game either player has ever played, the entertainment factor more than makes up for it.



God of Predictions: Steadfast

This week's GOD OF PREDICTIONS is Steadfast, who was correct on 17 out of 24 possible predictions. ZombieGrub and Wardi tied for second with sixteen correct predictions each, while feardragon only got thirteen correct after letting his NA-bias cloud his judgment.

Day 1 Caster Predictions - Day 2 Caster Predictions - Day 3 Caster Predictions

Of course, there is no prize for being the GOD OF PREDICTIONS—it only comes with the quiet smugness of knowing that you're much, much, smarter than your fellow casters. Congratulations to Steadfast for his peerless intellect, and we hope the old boy's club doesn't send someone to break his knees.

Week 2 Preview: Counting down to Sunday

Matches begin at 12:00 GMT (+00:00) on Fri, Sat, and Sun.

There are too many matches to go over individually, but I'll just point out a few of the confirmed and potential clashes that I'm looking forward to.

PvP isn't exactly a glamor match-up, but Trap vs MaxPax is definitely a series you want to watch. MaxPax's unique, personal style of PvP—powered by his signature Stargate expansion—hasn't just flummoxed opponents in Europe. It has toppled elite Korean players too! With recent victories over the likes of Trap, Zest, PartinG, and Zoun, it's arguable that MaxPax is actually the #1 PvP player in the world (Aligulac.com already thinks so). Trap himself said in an interview that he would rather avoid MaxPax in TSL8, citing his indecipherable style. Will MaxPax prevail and prove that he is, indeed, the best PvP player? Or will Trap have discovered a solution for MaxPax after studying for a week?

While fans might quibble about whether or not MaxPax is really the #1 PvP player, I doubt many would argue that Maru is by far the best at TvT. He is currently on a 22-match undefeated streak in the match-up, with the last player to defeat him having been TY. While Maru pointed out Cure and Bunny as the two players who might potentially end his streak, I get the feeling that's just the typical Maru humility speaking. Thus, I'm not necessarily interested in Maru vs Bunny because I expect good games—though I certainly hope we get some—I just want to see if the streak will continue.

While Friday and Saturday will have some strong matches, the real highlight of the week is the potential Sunday mayhem. That's when the top title contenders could first start colliding deeper into the bracket. Right now, it seems like Maru vs Serral is very likely to happen (if SpeCial and Bunny don't spoil the party), and it would be the marquee match of the weekend. It's a shame that it will only be best-of-three (TSL8 doesn't go into best-of-five mode until the last few rounds) considering how epic their King of Battles best-of-seven was. However, I'm still happy to see Maru take on Serral in any format.

The other potential big match is Rogue vs Dark/ByuN. After losing two grand finals to Maru in recent events, Rogue got his revenge in the finals of Super Tournament #3 where he beat his old teammate 4-3. The best-in-the-world title really seems up for grabs lately, but Rogue has made a strong case for himself with that win. A match against Dark would be great for the fans, as the two always seem to find a way to play unorthodox and entertaining ZvZ games against each other. But personally, I'd rather see him go up against ByuN. The Shopify Terran has been playing extremely well as of late, and even beat Rogue in an online showmatch. I'm intrigued in learning if this uptick in form is for 'real,' or if it's just confined to smaller events.

In any case, make sure to tune into Twitch.tv/tlnet this weekend for week two of TSL8!




Writer: Wax
Images: TeamLiquid
Statistics and records: Liquipedia and Aligulac.com

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-03 07:40:55
December 03 2021 07:01 GMT
#2
MaxPax vs Trap going to be very interesting
Allready looking forward to it

E.: the prediction links are from TSL 7
MaxPax
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 09 2021 22:55 GMT
#3
Is there gonna be a final preview?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
04:00
Qualifiers Day 1
Afreeca ASL 2870
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 263
Rex 4
Ryung 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 275
Dewaltoss 140
Soma 122
Sharp 69
ToSsGirL 46
ZergMaN 20
Sexy 9
NotJumperer 9
sorry 7
Dota 2
canceldota172
Gorgc49
League of Legends
JimRising 504
Reynor56
Counter-Strike
summit1g8167
byalli165
Other Games
gofns7752
ceh9673
singsing411
RuFF_SC245
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick864
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 132
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 41
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH244
• StrangeGG 56
• mYiSmile133
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV646
• lizZardDota2355
League of Legends
• Jankos964
• Stunt454
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
1m
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
Tasteless263
IntoTheiNu 66
CranKy Ducklings12
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2h 1m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 1m
RSL Revival
1d
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 3h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W5
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSLAN 4
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.