• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:26
CET 12:26
KST 20:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1451 users

[TSL8] - Week 2 Preview/Week 1 Review

Forum Index > SC2 General
2 CommentsPost a Reply

[TSL8] - Week 2 Preview/Week 1 Review

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
December 3rd, 2021 02:17 GMT
Week 1 Recap
& Best Games

Zest and Clem out in earlier shocks

Week 2 Preview
Maru vs Serral incoming?

Brackets and standings on (Wiki)Liquipedia

VODs on Twitch
Day 1 - Day 2 - Day 3

Week 1 Review: Zest and Clem go out early

by Wax

TSL7 was one of the most 'normal' TeamLiquid Starleague tournaments to date, with barely any of the upsets that defined previous editions of the tournament. In contrast, TSL8 has gotten off to a crazy start, with top players Clem and Zest already out after one week of play. Even reigning Code S champion Cure has been sent down to the lower bracket early on, where one more loss will spell the end of his tournament run.

[image loading]


The upper bracket is where all the chaos started, with Zest losing 0-2 to RagnaroK and Clem giving up a 1-2 loss to herO. As is often the case, cheesy tactics were key to the underdog victories. Zest simply couldn't find a way to effectively hold against RagnaroK's Queen-Walks, while Clem was undone by herO's throwback Glaive-Adept + Phoenix attack. Curiously enough, herO himself said the strategy wasn't necessarily good—he just thought the ancient strategy might catch Clem off guard.

Meanwhile, Cure was sent to the lower bracket with a 1-2 loss to Polish Terran Spirit (formerly souL). Whether it was due to intense VOD study or just good ol' fashioned luck, Spirit constantly found openings to land deadly drops in Cure's main. Nerves did seem to affect Spirit as he looked to close out a monumental upset, as he very nearly threw game three at the 99% completion mark. Thankfully, for Spirit's sanity, he recovered and sealed the 2-1 victory.

The week 1 underdogs were impressive even in defeat. GuMiho earned TSL7 champion Trap's respect after outplaying him in a straight-up macro game on Hardwire, while Creator came oh-so-close to taking a 2-0 against TSL6 champion Dark before allowing the comeback victory.

[image loading]

Alas, eight players had to depart the tournament after just one week of play. In the case of GuMiho, Harstem, Astrea, and MaNa, most fans probably weren't too surprised to see them eliminated from such a strong pool of players. But seeing Zest and Clem go out in the first week was certainly a surprise, even though it was somewhat foreseeable with hindsight.

TvT and TvP have always been Clem's biggest problem in big international events, and a single 3-2 victory over Trap in DHM Winter doesn't fix the TvP portion immediately. Still, the upper bracket loss to herO was a bit of a surprise, given the lowered expectations we have for players who are only a few months returned from military service. However, the lower match loss to Dream was probably closer to 50/50 at the outset. In a vacuum, would Clem 0-2 Dream really have been a huge shock in any event?

Zest was never the most consistent player to begin with (he actually missed a Code S season this year which is ridiculous for a title contender), and his recent form has seen him become even more unpredictable. Thus, maybe we should have seen his lower bracket loss to Elazer coming, especially with some fans surmising that his impending military service is finally catching up to him mentally. Then again, he did just beat Dark and Reynor in Netease's NeXT tournament, so TSL8 may just have been yet another Zest-ish fluctuation.

Recommended Games

Creator vs Dark, Game 2 (at 4h 53m40s): Nothing gets the blood flowing like a good base trade! A late-game Protoss army can be terrifying to fight head-on, and Dark opted to try and steal a victory by diverting his Swarm and attacking his opponent's bases instead. When the dust settled, we were left with a classic scenario where one player has a strong economy and weak army, while the other player is left with basically zero income but a deadly standing force.

Ultimately, the game was decided more on the difference in information than economy or army. Dark had a much better grasp of what the game state was after the basetrade, and methodically utilized that knowledge to manufacture a victory.

Scarlett vs ByuN - Game 3: (at 6h 5m 40s): As is often the case, we had Muta-Ling-Bane vs Terran bio to thank for a thrilling and action-packed match. What differentiates this game from other TvZ's was the ending: like in Creator vs Dark, one player was left with all the econ, while the other was left with all the army.

While this wasn't the cleanest game either player has ever played, the entertainment factor more than makes up for it.



God of Predictions: Steadfast

This week's GOD OF PREDICTIONS is Steadfast, who was correct on 17 out of 24 possible predictions. ZombieGrub and Wardi tied for second with sixteen correct predictions each, while feardragon only got thirteen correct after letting his NA-bias cloud his judgment.

Day 1 Caster Predictions - Day 2 Caster Predictions - Day 3 Caster Predictions

Of course, there is no prize for being the GOD OF PREDICTIONS—it only comes with the quiet smugness of knowing that you're much, much, smarter than your fellow casters. Congratulations to Steadfast for his peerless intellect, and we hope the old boy's club doesn't send someone to break his knees.

Week 2 Preview: Counting down to Sunday

Matches begin at 12:00 GMT (+00:00) on Fri, Sat, and Sun.

There are too many matches to go over individually, but I'll just point out a few of the confirmed and potential clashes that I'm looking forward to.

PvP isn't exactly a glamor match-up, but Trap vs MaxPax is definitely a series you want to watch. MaxPax's unique, personal style of PvP—powered by his signature Stargate expansion—hasn't just flummoxed opponents in Europe. It has toppled elite Korean players too! With recent victories over the likes of Trap, Zest, PartinG, and Zoun, it's arguable that MaxPax is actually the #1 PvP player in the world (Aligulac.com already thinks so). Trap himself said in an interview that he would rather avoid MaxPax in TSL8, citing his indecipherable style. Will MaxPax prevail and prove that he is, indeed, the best PvP player? Or will Trap have discovered a solution for MaxPax after studying for a week?

While fans might quibble about whether or not MaxPax is really the #1 PvP player, I doubt many would argue that Maru is by far the best at TvT. He is currently on a 22-match undefeated streak in the match-up, with the last player to defeat him having been TY. While Maru pointed out Cure and Bunny as the two players who might potentially end his streak, I get the feeling that's just the typical Maru humility speaking. Thus, I'm not necessarily interested in Maru vs Bunny because I expect good games—though I certainly hope we get some—I just want to see if the streak will continue.

While Friday and Saturday will have some strong matches, the real highlight of the week is the potential Sunday mayhem. That's when the top title contenders could first start colliding deeper into the bracket. Right now, it seems like Maru vs Serral is very likely to happen (if SpeCial and Bunny don't spoil the party), and it would be the marquee match of the weekend. It's a shame that it will only be best-of-three (TSL8 doesn't go into best-of-five mode until the last few rounds) considering how epic their King of Battles best-of-seven was. However, I'm still happy to see Maru take on Serral in any format.

The other potential big match is Rogue vs Dark/ByuN. After losing two grand finals to Maru in recent events, Rogue got his revenge in the finals of Super Tournament #3 where he beat his old teammate 4-3. The best-in-the-world title really seems up for grabs lately, but Rogue has made a strong case for himself with that win. A match against Dark would be great for the fans, as the two always seem to find a way to play unorthodox and entertaining ZvZ games against each other. But personally, I'd rather see him go up against ByuN. The Shopify Terran has been playing extremely well as of late, and even beat Rogue in an online showmatch. I'm intrigued in learning if this uptick in form is for 'real,' or if it's just confined to smaller events.

In any case, make sure to tune into Twitch.tv/tlnet this weekend for week two of TSL8!




Writer: Wax
Images: TeamLiquid
Statistics and records: Liquipedia and Aligulac.com

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-03 07:40:55
December 03 2021 07:01 GMT
#2
MaxPax vs Trap going to be very interesting
Allready looking forward to it

E.: the prediction links are from TSL 7
MaxPax
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 09 2021 22:55 GMT
#3
Is there gonna be a final preview?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
All-Star Invitational
03:00
Day 2
WardiTV879
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #117
Krystianer vs PercivalLIVE!
ShoWTimE vs Creator
ByuN vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings121
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MindelVK 79
EmSc Tv 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3940
Calm 3141
firebathero 1086
Larva 636
Shuttle 608
Hyuk 515
actioN 399
Stork 373
Hm[arnc] 367
Soma 360
[ Show more ]
BeSt 347
Mini 201
Light 197
Last 197
Sharp 165
Rush 145
Hyun 103
Leta 77
Shine 73
EffOrt 40
ToSsGirL 35
Free 33
ggaemo 30
910 27
HiyA 25
Sacsri 20
NaDa 19
yabsab 19
Noble 18
JulyZerg 17
Terrorterran 15
zelot 12
ivOry 7
SilentControl 7
GoRush 7
Movie 4
Dota 2
Gorgc2150
singsing1887
XcaliburYe327
League of Legends
JimRising 516
C9.Mang0365
Counter-Strike
zeus1078
byalli623
x6flipin424
allub257
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor94
Other Games
B2W.Neo765
crisheroes222
Pyrionflax211
Mew2King78
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2372
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 25
EmSc2Tv 25
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH247
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1256
• lizZardDota2109
League of Legends
• Jankos2348
• Stunt1146
Upcoming Events
OSC
34m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
8h 34m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
8h 34m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
21h 34m
Wardi Open
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
The PondCast
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.