On January 14 2021 04:36 stilt wrote: He had insane mechanics... But I remember him as being pretty arrogant and antipathic. Well, him or me, people can change. Other than that, he enjoyed a real favorable meta before getting schred into pieces by Life and resorting the worst excuses.
Anyway, I am still curious to see what his performance will be.
Finally someone with an edge to him I say I miss Naniwa and Idra.
On January 14 2021 08:26 Poopi wrote: I don’t really understand why people think he has a shot at having better results than the best foreign Protoss. I don’t think he ever reached ShoWTimE / Neeb or even Astrea level (well Astrea is too young so they didn’t play the same extension at the same time, and Neeb probably was still Terran during hots...). Still cool to see old faces coming back, and maybe he can still obtain good results in LotV; since he will be a total outsider nowadays there won’t be as much pressure to perform as in early LotV (which was also close to the whole BlizzCon thing, and didn’t help to perform either).
Just for the record Neeb was already playing Protoss when Lilbow won WCS.
About a year ago, he made it to OWL as a coach for Toronto Defiant, one of the OWL team, generally considered to be middle of the pack or in the bottom half. But things didn't work out too well for him and he was released about 4 months ago. Here's his twitlonger about that: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srd4vj
That was quite inetresting. I had no real idea what an OWL coach would actually do. Shame his time was cut short there. I'm curious to see him play again.
About a year ago, he made it to OWL as a coach for Toronto Defiant, one of the OWL team, generally considered to be middle of the pack or in the bottom half. But things didn't work out too well for him and he was released about 4 months ago. Here's his twitlonger about that: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srd4vj
That was quite inetresting. I had no real idea what an OWL coach would actually do. Shame his time was cut short there. I'm curious to see him play again.
Didn't realize what OWL means and I was thinking he was into falconry with owls >< It's similar as when i see gg I wonder why General Grievous is being summoned . This Friday was really mentally exhausting.
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote: For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?
Foreigners struggled a lot vs koreans before region lock, especially during HotS. During last HotS year (2015 iirc), Lilbow who is a french protoss player became the best foreigner, mostly on the back of his great blink play (during protoss blink era), and was the only foreigner to qualify for BlizzCon.
People thus had high hopes for him, and he got cheesed thrice by Life and lost the bo5 3-0 in something like 30 minutes. It would have been relatively harmless if he didn't say that with everyone practicing LotV, it was hard to find practice partners or something like this. People started mocking him for what they considered a poor excuse for his performance.
I'm glad to see that Lilbow is playing again, and I hope he does well, but let's not pretend he was ever the best foreigner for the year 2015. Unless you mean that he was the best French Protoss player?
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote: For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?
Foreigners struggled a lot vs koreans before region lock, especially during HotS. During last HotS year (2015 iirc), Lilbow who is a french protoss player became the best foreigner, mostly on the back of his great blink play (during protoss blink era), and was the only foreigner to qualify for BlizzCon.
People thus had high hopes for him, and he got cheesed thrice by Life and lost the bo5 3-0 in something like 30 minutes. It would have been relatively harmless if he didn't say that with everyone practicing LotV, it was hard to find practice partners or something like this. People started mocking him for what they considered a poor excuse for his performance.
I'm glad to see that Lilbow is playing again, and I hope he does well, but let's not pretend he was ever the best foreigner for the year 2015. Unless you mean that he was the best French Protoss player?
Who else would it be? According to the 2015 global standings, Lilbow is 13th while the next foreigner is Snute at 26th. Wasn't a very hot year for foreigners
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote: For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?
Foreigners struggled a lot vs koreans before region lock, especially during HotS. During last HotS year (2015 iirc), Lilbow who is a french protoss player became the best foreigner, mostly on the back of his great blink play (during protoss blink era), and was the only foreigner to qualify for BlizzCon.
People thus had high hopes for him, and he got cheesed thrice by Life and lost the bo5 3-0 in something like 30 minutes. It would have been relatively harmless if he didn't say that with everyone practicing LotV, it was hard to find practice partners or something like this. People started mocking him for what they considered a poor excuse for his performance.
I'm glad to see that Lilbow is playing again, and I hope he does well, but let's not pretend he was ever the best foreigner for the year 2015. Unless you mean that he was the best French Protoss player?
Well I did not follow sc2 that much in this period but if he was the sole foreigner qualified to BlizzCon, doesn't that make him the de facto best foreigner that year?
About a year ago, he made it to OWL as a coach for Toronto Defiant, one of the OWL team, generally considered to be middle of the pack or in the bottom half. But things didn't work out too well for him and he was released about 4 months ago. Here's his twitlonger about that: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srd4vj
That was quite inetresting. I had no real idea what an OWL coach would actually do. Shame his time was cut short there. I'm curious to see him play again.
Yeah was an interesting read. Obviously it’s his side of things but it sounds like he has a pretty good mentality in knowing what’s needed to succeed and analysing problems.
Hopefully it serves him well in his return to SC2, feel he gets a bit too much flak really for the sake of one Blizzcon. Not really his fault he was the sole foreign hope there.
On January 17 2021 03:12 outscar wrote: Lolbow... Life vs. him fastest bo5 never forgetti!
Nah, Naniwa vs. Polt holds that title. Also Polt still the first and only player to win a Bo5 (or Bo3?) with only one match played.
On topic: Not sure if we'll ever see anything of him. I doubt it.
That match makes even more sense years later now that we learn that it was allegedly Polt that leaked Naniwa's replays to MVP ahead of their GSL Ro8 match. Well adds more context I should say, it still doesn't make sense to not even play
On January 17 2021 03:12 outscar wrote: Lolbow... Life vs. him fastest bo5 never forgetti!
Nah, Naniwa vs. Polt holds that title. Also Polt still the first and only player to win a Bo5 (or Bo3?) with only one match played.
On topic: Not sure if we'll ever see anything of him. I doubt it.
That match makes even more sense years later now that we learn that it was allegedly Polt that leaked Naniwa's replays to MVP ahead of their GSL Ro8 match. Well adds more context I should say, it still doesn't make sense to not even play
Doesn't make sense at all why you would give up on a chance at revenge against someone who might have wronged you.
On January 17 2021 03:12 outscar wrote: Lolbow... Life vs. him fastest bo5 never forgetti!
Nah, Naniwa vs. Polt holds that title. Also Polt still the first and only player to win a Bo5 (or Bo3?) with only one match played.
On topic: Not sure if we'll ever see anything of him. I doubt it.
That match makes even more sense years later now that we learn that it was allegedly Polt that leaked Naniwa's replays to MVP ahead of their GSL Ro8 match. Well adds more context I should say, it still doesn't make sense to not even play
I don't think I ever heard about that, is there a thread for that?
On January 17 2021 03:12 outscar wrote: Lolbow... Life vs. him fastest bo5 never forgetti!
Nah, Naniwa vs. Polt holds that title. Also Polt still the first and only player to win a Bo5 (or Bo3?) with only one match played.
On topic: Not sure if we'll ever see anything of him. I doubt it.
That match makes even more sense years later now that we learn that it was allegedly Polt that leaked Naniwa's replays to MVP ahead of their GSL Ro8 match. Well adds more context I should say, it still doesn't make sense to not even play
I don't think I ever heard about that, is there a thread for that?
Thorin did an interview with Naniwa a month or two ago and Naniwa mentions it about 20 minutes in. I knew back in the day there was a rumor that someone leaked his vods to Mvp but I don't think the name came out until this interview.
Its one of those things where 10 years out I don't see why Naniwa would lie, but obviously his source is just Startale players telling him so there's no proof it was Polt.
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