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GSL Code S RO4 Preview: TY vs PartinG

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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
May 26 2020 16:38 GMT
#6
interested to see how parting will handle top tier mech play if TY successfully takes a mech build into the midgame. stylistically maru always tries to go all-out on both harassment and defense at the same time, but i don't think TY will be afraid to just play extra-safe and get to where he wants to be, which might be the worst thing for parting to face
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misterxy1994
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany53 Posts
May 26 2020 16:43 GMT
#7
I was really wondering why soo was using the 12 pool against parting. As far as i know 12 pool only counters the proxy robo, if you can block the pylons with drones. Otherwise you can wall in before lings arive. Then the Zerg is in big trouble. Or am I wrong?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
May 26 2020 16:54 GMT
#8
On May 27 2020 01:43 misterxy1994 wrote:
I was really wondering why soo was using the 12 pool against parting. As far as i know 12 pool only counters the proxy robo, if you can block the pylons with drones. Otherwise you can wall in before lings arive. Then the Zerg is in big trouble. Or am I wrong?

you can always wall before the lings arrive. if it's scouted the desired scenario of early pool is to face a gate-nexus-core build with a late scout and force a massive probe defense. so you want to delay mining, kills buildings in the wall, or just win outright by destroying pylons

you would never really do that build at pro level if you thought your opponent would expect it
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 26 2020 19:21 GMT
#9
On May 27 2020 01:54 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2020 01:43 misterxy1994 wrote:
I was really wondering why soo was using the 12 pool against parting. As far as i know 12 pool only counters the proxy robo, if you can block the pylons with drones. Otherwise you can wall in before lings arive. Then the Zerg is in big trouble. Or am I wrong?

you can always wall before the lings arrive. if it's scouted the desired scenario of early pool is to face a gate-nexus-core build with a late scout and force a massive probe defense. so you want to delay mining, kills buildings in the wall, or just win outright by destroying pylons

you would never really do that build at pro level if you thought your opponent would expect it


And somehow you can 12 pool your opponent literally every game and he still won't expect it, scout it or prepare for it in any way:

Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
May 26 2020 23:15 GMT
#10
It feels to me like it might be way too easy for TY to have prepared to face Blink stalker/colossus play.
Hope Parting has some curve balls or it might be 1 sided.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-26 23:47:40
May 26 2020 23:45 GMT
#11
I was never really a Parting fan, but he's winning me over. Hopefully he smashes TY with more of that amazing micro.

Also Parting seems to be pushing himself really hard, while TY already has a backup job secured.
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
May 27 2020 00:07 GMT
#12
Head: PartinG 4-1 TY
Heart: TY 4-1 PartinG

TY has a ridiculous number of builds, prepares extremely well, and has a nearly unreadable playstyle, but it feels like a huge fraction of his losses come from opponents being more rather than less aggressive than he expects. PartinG will almost certainly always play more aggressively than any other P on the planet, so I see a lot of ways in which TY gets caught. His multitask is also often sloppy and his control suffers a bit when he's taxed (compared to e.g. Maru or Cure).

Of course, in my perfect world, TY continually lands damage on PartinG before he can get his blink play together. Or he pulls out some vintage sensor tower defense (lol). But I'm worried for my caster boy
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col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
May 27 2020 00:37 GMT
#13
Go TYTY
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 27 2020 01:05 GMT
#14
Parting has a good chance as long as he doesn’t go full cowboy protoss
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 27 2020 02:43 GMT
#15
I think TY's gonna smash him.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
May 27 2020 04:48 GMT
#16
This could be realy close, epic games or an one sided Clown fiesta.
I ve no idear what to expect and no idear whom I m cheering for more.
MaxPax
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 27 2020 05:57 GMT
#17
Parting 4-3 TY i can feel it
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
May 27 2020 06:52 GMT
#18
Great, detailed preview, thanks.

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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
May 27 2020 06:54 GMT
#19
TY is going to smash PartinG, while I liked his play against Maru, Maru himself played very badly (for being Maru). Any other top P could have pulled off a victory if Maru played like that against them. PartinG however cannot pull out a win against TY playing like he did against Maru.
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PyroNswe
Profile Joined March 2020
Sweden23 Posts
May 27 2020 08:41 GMT
#20
On May 27 2020 13:48 dbRic1203 wrote:
This could be realy close, epic games or an one sided Clown fiesta.
I ve no idear what to expect and no idear whom I m cheering for more.


Yep I am thinking the same. As a Hardcore Terran fan, I even prefer a TvP finals rather than a TvT one(forgive my treachery)
Either way this will be interesting.

"The Terran army, Is better than your army" -RotterdaM
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-27 11:30:37
May 27 2020 11:30 GMT
#21
On May 27 2020 13:48 dbRic1203 wrote:
This could be realy close, epic games or an one sided Clown fiesta.
I ve no idear what to expect and no idear whom I m cheering for more.

Hey I was right on this one, right?
I mean, we had a bit of both I gues
MaxPax
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
May 27 2020 12:33 GMT
#22
For game 3, didn't research warp gate, didn't wall off, and only had 2 stalkers when Ty countered.
For game 6, relied on a timing attack and left half his army there sitting idle when the timing attack required all units to attack at the same time.

Also in game 6, this gif shows that PartinG A-moved his army into a bunch of sieged tanks and he wasn't even looking at his army when it moved in (this was missed in the Tastosis cast of the game): https://old.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/gri57j/what_actually_happened_during_ty_vs_parting_game/
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-27 16:42:49
May 27 2020 16:37 GMT
#23
one could argue Code S hasn't had a consensus "cheesy" champion in years


I might be getting old, but I can still remember Byun winning a GSL

..unless the "consensus" is that reaper abuse is the hallmark of a macro god
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-27 16:46:54
May 27 2020 16:43 GMT
#24
On May 28 2020 01:37 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Show nested quote +
one could argue Code S hasn't had a consensus "cheesy" champion in years


I might be getting old, but I can still remember Byun winning a GSL

..unless the "consensus" is that reaper rushes are the hallmark of macro games

Well 2016 is quite a few years ago in SC2 terms.

Granted I don't think ByuN was cheesier than Maru in his wins.
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waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 03:29:42
May 29 2020 02:58 GMT
#25
On May 28 2020 01:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2020 01:37 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
one could argue Code S hasn't had a consensus "cheesy" champion in years


I might be getting old, but I can still remember Byun winning a GSL

..unless the "consensus" is that reaper rushes are the hallmark of macro games


Granted I don't think ByuN was cheesier than Maru in his wins.


really??

while nobody could deny that Maru can win late-game, I'm pretty sure less than 1 in 10 Byun wins were even close to late-game

not to mention the one single favorable meta where all Byun's wins happened
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
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