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GSL RO8 Preview: Dark vs TY, Maru vs PartinG - Page 2

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StalkerTL
Profile Joined May 2020
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-20 02:31:23
May 20 2020 02:30 GMT
#21
On May 20 2020 09:11 pvsnp wrote:
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On May 20 2020 07:28 breaker1328 wrote:
I just can't help myself, I had to bet on the PartinG upset. I have no idea how it's going to happen, I very highly doubt that it will happen, but if it does? It will be glorious!


For some reason I have a hunch that Parting will upset Maru here. Strange, since I'm also confident that Dark will crush TY. Even though it would be great to see Maru vs Dark again, I just can't shake the feeling that it won't happen.


Parting is definitely the dark horse here, mostly because of his play style. But if we really think about it, Parting is playing well enough that him beating Maru wouldn’t be out of the world.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 20 2020 02:46 GMT
#22
On May 20 2020 07:08 Waxangel wrote:
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On May 20 2020 06:28 Warcloud wrote:
Small correction but Maru 2-0'd PartinG in Masters' Coliseum in 2018.

That incredible run shot him up from being perhaps a top thirty player of all time, to a strong candidate to be called the greatest ever.


And it's actually ridiculous to say 'top thirty' prior to 2018. He was easily top 5 even before his four GSL wins. Greatest proleague player of (arguably all time) SC2. OSL, SSL, WESG and consistently high placement in GSL, even in the era when he and innovation were the only ones even qualifying for GSL. I bet if you went back to December 2017 and asked players to rank each other 1-10, Maru would be on 100% of the lists.

Otherwise nice write-up.


Yeah in retrospect 30 is really low (I picked a conservative multiple of ten off the top of my head) and Maru is a borderline top-ten player at the time (Maru wins WESG in 2018, btw).

At the end of 2017, I think we're looking at INnoVation, sOs, Mvp, Nestea, MC and Zest as locks, and you can have a pretty healthy debate with guys like Rain, Maru, MMA, TaeJa, ByuN, DRG, MKP, soO, Classic, Polt, Leenock, etc to be top ten or not

No chance Maru isn't ahead of ByuN, DRG, MMA, Polt, Leenock, or MKP. Even pre 4 GSLs, none of them can match his proleague record or performance in starleagues (during kespa). If you look at only korean events (specifically starleagues/proleague) it's not even close. Hell, if you look season by season during HotS, he was the best terran in korea more times than even INno was.

(here's a fun fact for the GOAT argument, over every starleague season since 2013, Maru did better 14, INno in 5, and they had one season with the same finish)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
May 20 2020 06:46 GMT
#23
Poor BigBoy
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
May 20 2020 06:53 GMT
#24
Nice writeup. I had no idea PartinG tried to be a pro at LOL and glorious of kings, well I didint even know there is an esport about a phone game
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
May 20 2020 12:11 GMT
#25
A day for the underdogs!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
May 20 2020 12:16 GMT
#26
Really glad TY and Parting made it through, but RIP my liquibets.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-21 06:34:35
May 21 2020 06:33 GMT
#27
On May 20 2020 21:16 ImmortalGhost wrote:
Really glad TY and Parting made it through, but RIP my liquibets.

I gotta make my Liquibets and bracket predictions in an excel, then before submitting, reverse all of them.
It would improve my standings considerably
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
May 21 2020 06:39 GMT
#28
On May 21 2020 15:33 Geo.Rion wrote:
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On May 20 2020 21:16 ImmortalGhost wrote:
Really glad TY and Parting made it through, but RIP my liquibets.

I gotta make my Liquibets and bracket predictions in an excel, then before submitting, reverse all of them.
It would improve my standings considerably

You d be the king of the TSL prediction contest by a hugh Margin
MaxPax
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