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On February 12 2019 08:48 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote: Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance. Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss... I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)
no you are wrong you talkabout only WCS Montreal we talk about WCS Standng 2018
2018 StarCraft II World Championship Series/Standings
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On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote: Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.
Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss... I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)
Yes, I missed the fact that Heromarine was 2nd. But that would give Serral with Gungfu, Showtime with Mana, Lambo with Elazer and Raynor with Uthermal.
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Probe seems getting a very nice group
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Canada8759 Posts
On February 12 2019 08:50 tilhorizon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 08:48 Nakajin wrote:On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote: Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance. Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss... I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol) no you are wrong you talkabout only WCS Montreal we talk about WCS Standng 2018 2018 StarCraft II World Championship Series/Standings I know but it would explain why Reynor is ahead of Uthermal. Reynor-Serral-Lambo-Showtime(tied with UT) are the 4 best european of WCS Montreal.
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I know but it would explain why Reynor is ahead of Uthermal. Reynor-Serral-Lambo-Showtime(tied with UT) are the 4 best european of WCS Montreal.
It would make absolutely no sense to take WCS Montreal as basis for seeding, unless one would liuke to manipulate something.
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United States32480 Posts
WCS Winter Rules
According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32.
The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.
• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed • Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed • Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds • Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of 16 group
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On February 12 2019 10:06 Waxangel wrote:WCS Winter RulesAccording to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32. Show nested quote +The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.
• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed • Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed • Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds • Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of 16 group
I feel like this is missing something... so is it random? Are they just placing them however they want within those rules?
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Canada8759 Posts
On February 12 2019 10:19 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 10:06 Waxangel wrote:WCS Winter RulesAccording to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32. The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.
• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed • Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed • Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds • Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of 16 group I feel like this is missing something... so is it random? Are they just placing them however they want within those rules? I mean we should not rule out the chance that it's random, NA group really do look random.
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According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32
It doesn\t look random at all. But there is a little problem balance wise currently, We can fix it a bit by staging groups. Like AI Serral and Elazer are faster than other players. Hateme, with all due respect, will not advance.
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Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU
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wcs america they rly managed to have 2 groups with 0 usa players and one with 4 ? and both mexicans in one and 2 chinese in one xD what a **** drawing xD
and eu the only 2 terrans in 1 group i shit myself xD
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On February 12 2019 14:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU
so tell me who is a good european terran ? the race isnt just that famous in eu on top level so there are very few top tier terrans the sad thing is that they are both in the same group.
ps: if heromarine still plays this awefull build hes gonna lose ... i dare a terran to cry for balance until they stop playing the WORST BUILD POSSIBLE every damn tvp xD
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hmm... interesting to see if anyone can challenge serral and if in NA someone else than scarlett/neeb/special will win.
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Serral's group is hilarious, he gets the weakest trio of players to face against (relative to the other groups) , all in his best match up. Too much luck!
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On February 12 2019 17:06 Drake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 14:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU so tell me who is a good european terran ? the race isnt just that famous in eu on top level so there are very few top tier terrans the sad thing is that they are both in the same group. ps: if heromarine still plays this awefull build hes gonna lose ... i dare a terran to cry for balance until they stop playing the WORST BUILD POSSIBLE every damn tvp xD Tell them what a proper build is with your gm game knowledge. Foreign terrans really should take coaching lessons from you
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Seeding is fine guys the draws just ended up in a weird way but thats just what happens sometimes. And to the guys complaining about Serrals group, if the best player gets the weakest opponents its actually a sign that seeding worked.
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On February 12 2019 20:18 dysenterymd wrote: Serral's group is hilarious, he gets the weakest trio of players to face against (relative to the other groups) , all in his best match up. Too much luck!
Serrals Group is not easier than Group A
Group B strongest Group C second strongest Group A/D third strongest
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If they had just streamed the draw, the feeling that it was somehow rigged would be much smaller. I mean, how hard is it to set up a camera one host and get some random numbers...
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The amount of complaining is incredible.
Complaints about races, nations, montreal standings, global standings .... seriously?
I think it's impossbile to address everything guys. They had their rules and probably a little leeway. So what? I'm hyped
On February 13 2019 08:04 MrFreeman wrote: If they had just streamed the draw, the feeling that it was somehow rigged would be much smaller. I mean, how hard is it to set up a camera one host and get some random numbers...
This would have been an easy solution I guess
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some of you protoss guys are alright, don't come watch group D
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