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Code S - Ro16 Group D Preview (Season 2)

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Code S - Ro16 Group D Preview (Season 2)

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June 6th, 2014 00:17 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

GSL Season Two
Code S Ro16



Ro16 Group D Preview
Soulkey, Shine, Zest, INnoVation

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Ro16 Group D Preview

(Z)Soulkey, (Z)Shine, (P)Zest, (T)INnoVation

by stuchiu

Welcome to the GSL Group of Death! The GSL is famous for being the toughest tournament in the world, but there almost always seems to be that one group that sticks out as being unreasonably harsh. In the past, these groups came together by the players' design. Who can forget PartinG’s moxie when he taunted and manipulated his way to create a group containing Life, INnoVation, Flash and himself? Thanks to PartinG, player-picked groups are now a thing of the past. However, the seed-based random system can still yield some very deadly groups. Last season, we got to see Maru, Zest, Dear, and Soulkey fight it out. This season, we have Soulkey, Shine, INnoVation and Zest.

For (Z)SKT_Soulkey, this group comes straight out of his worst nightmares. soO knocked Soulkey from his perch as the best Zerg in world, and these GSL group draws are not doing Soulkey any favors in his quest to reclaim his place. It's already bad enough that this is the second season in a row he's been put in the group of death, but this particular group seems to be custom tailored to kill Soulkey.

Shine, the "easy" player in the group, is Soulkey's greatest nemesis. With three losses to Shine in Brood War, one in WoL, and four in HotS, Soulkey has an incomprehensible 0-8 all-time record against the Samsung Zerg. soO vs. PartinG and Mvp vs. MKP may be the most famous one-sided relationships in SC2 history, but at least PartinG and MKP managed to steal a map or two. Soulkey hasn't just failed to draw blood – he hasn't even touched Shine.

To a lesser degree, Soulkey finds himself being countered by INnoVation and Zest as well. His record against INnoVation is 7-15 all time (although Soulkey won their most important meeting: the GSL finals), and is 1-4 against Zest.

MKP could never beat Mvp. Keen spent his entire early career losing Code S spots to Nada. Inca died fighting detection. Soulkey will have to do what they could not and overcome his demons if he wants any hope of getting out of this group.

For (Z)Samsung_Shine, this group comes straight out of his sweetest dreams. Sure Shine, is easily the weakest player in this group by "objective" standards, but f*** that. That's always been the case for Shine, ever since the Brood War days. Back in the 2009 EVER OSL, Shine was pitted against Bisu, he greatest PvZ player of all time. At that time, the only blemish on Bisu's record was that he had no OSL titles, but he seemed destined to overcome that obstacle as he was playing some of the greatest BW of his life. At best, Shine was thought to have an icicle's chance in hell. However, Shine would end up making hell freeze over. With two casual hydra busts, he eliminated Bisu from the tournament.

That win set the tone for Shine's entire career. He's always being thrown up against the best players and fan favorites of the day. And while his pedestrian record, frequent losses to mediocre players, and in-game play suggest he shouldn't stand a chance, Shine always seems to find a way to defy the odds. Shine seems to gain even more strength depending on how popular his opponent is, and his chance of victory seems to be directly correlated to the amount of heartbreak it would cause. Shine is the villain.

His run through this GSL was no different. He eliminated Flash in Code A. Then he took out sOs in Code S. Now he has been drawn into the group of death. However, he's not the one who's trapped in a group with three former champions. Soulkey, INnoVation, and Zest are the ones trapped in a group with Shine.



"And thus, INnoVation passed from the GSL. Women wept, men tore their beards, and all the peoples of the earth mourned his passing. But I said unto them "Despair not! For when the skies have been blotted out by oracles, our walls broken by blink stalkers, and the fields scoured by locusts, he shall return and bring deliverance to the Terran Kingdoms." - Major 24:30

(T)Acer.INnoVation has returned. After being blink-stalkered out of Code A last season, INnoVation was able to make a rapid recovery and is once again knocking on the door to the Ro8. Though he faces a rather intimidating welcoming party in the Ro16, you get the feeling that he wouldn't want it any other way. INnoVation's sole goal is the be the top player in the world, and you have to beat the best to be the best.

The first thing that comes to mind about INnoVation lately is his insane record in Acer TeamStory Cup. He has been gutting teams left and right, putting up an insane 28-4 record while looking like an NBA pro playing some division II college basketball for fun. Outside ATC, INnoVation has been killing it in other online tournaments as well. He won the NoDice and Dragon invitational, beating strong players such as HyuN, Revival, and Symbol along the way. On top of it all, he's reached the #1 rank on the Korean ladder again. When INnoVation is playing online, he's unbeatable.

However, INnoVation hasn't been quite as as good at live events. In the Code S Ro32, he looked outmatched by herO in PvT, and had to advance from second place in his group. Considering herO's poor form as of late, it wasn't the most convincing showing from INnoVation. At DreamHack Bucharest, he we eliminated from the semifinals by Life. If INnoVation can shake off the rust and bring out that dominant form he once had, he can easily ace this group. If not, he could end up with a surprisingly last place finish.

(P)KT_Zest is the latest and greatest Protoss champion to emerge. He followed a royal-road run in Code S with another victory in the GSL Global Championship, cementing his position as the top Protoss player in the world. He is amazing at playing standard macro games, but also has a great sense for when to throw in an all-in build. Best case comparison: Rain at his prime, without the predictability. Though Zest is tremendously skilled, his greatest asset might be something that lies outside gameplay itself. In both of his grand finals appearances, Zest was able to come back from serious disadvantages when he was just one game away from losing the series. While some players crumble under pressure, Zest seems to thrive. He's even gone so far as to say that it takes a loss to get him really going in a series.

While Zest has received a lot of attention for his skill, he might be most notable for ruining the lives of SKT. Since his first All-kill of SKT he has gone on to beat Soulkey 2-1, Soulkey (again) 1-0, Rain 4-2, soO 4-3, PartinG 2-0, soO 3-2, PartinG 4-3, and Dark 2-0, before Rain finally finally stopped his reign of terror by beating him in a Proleague best of one. Zest will have a chance to pile even more misery upon SKT as there's a good chance he'll face Soulkey.

If there was any player that could be called a favorite in this group, it would be Zest. He’s won the last two Korean majors. His PvZ is probably the best in the world and he has consistently shown himself to be a calm and composed player, even when down 0-3 in a series. If there is one point of concern for Zest, it's that his PvT has started to look like a liability lately, which could be trouble against INnoVation.

Overall Predictions:

No result from this group would be truly surprising. But I’m going with Shine to win because there's just no other way this could go. There's just too many fan-favorites in the group and too many tears just ready to come gushing out. As the champion of evil, it's basically Shine's destiny to win this group.

Shine > Soulkey
Zest > INnoVation
Shine > Zest
INnoVation > Soulkey
Zest > INnoVation

Shine and Zest advance. Evil wins.

Writers: stuchiu.
Graphics: GOM eXP.
Editor: Waxangel.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 06 2014 00:24 GMT
#2
Of course the pick is obvious, your name is stichiu, master of evil and injustice.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2014 00:25 GMT
#3
Wow, an actual reasonable prediction for a change
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
June 06 2014 00:25 GMT
#4
No fucking way.

I can see Soulkey getting knocked out (although I still believe he'll advance, as he only has lost in the RO16 once...), but not INnoVation. He knows how important these matches are and I'm sure the best terran of 2013 can figure out a way to get through.

Still, Shine probably will advance first. Fuck that guy.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
June 06 2014 00:26 GMT
#5
stuchiu, you are a terrible, terrible person T_T
hemeh
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 06 2014 00:27 GMT
#6
Holy shit I had no idea that Soulkey has never beaten Shine. That guy is truly evil.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 06 2014 00:31 GMT
#7
On June 06 2014 09:26 urasyupi2 wrote:
stuchiu, you are a terrible, terrible person T_T


Its reality thats a terrible terrible person. I just watch it go by.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 06 2014 00:33 GMT
#8
Shine 0-4.
#revengeforwoongjinbrother

Soulkey and Zest to advance if head, if heart - SoulKey and INnoVation.
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FoolSC
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom11 Posts
June 06 2014 00:33 GMT
#9
Hm. Looking at this, with current form in mind, i'd say Zest to advance first and Innovation to take second. Buuuuuut Shine. He always manages to knock my favourite players out. D: In any case - The Second Coming of INnoVation is nigh!
Impossible is a word to be found only within the dictionary of Fools.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
June 06 2014 00:33 GMT
#10
Shine's ultimate destiny is to be placed in a group with Jaedong, Stork and MKP, do nothing but 6 pools and somehow be the only one to advance out, causing everyone else in the group to retire in shame and bringing about the Age of Shine during which being a fan favorite causes you to insta-lose. All Hail Our Samsung Overlord.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 06 2014 00:51 GMT
#11
This group is basically set up for Shine to advance
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Knatterking
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 01:11:18
June 06 2014 01:10 GMT
#12
Ow, so evil. (I like evil)
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 01:33:27
June 06 2014 01:33 GMT
#13
Please delete
why?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 01:33:54
June 06 2014 01:33 GMT
#14
edit: nvm
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
June 06 2014 01:36 GMT
#15
Zest over Innovation ? Twice ?
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
June 06 2014 01:44 GMT
#16
I don't think Zest can beat INnoVation twice.

But I also thought at least one between Rain and Life makes it out of the last group, so, what do I know
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 06 2014 01:55 GMT
#17
Wouldn't mind seeing Shine win the group just for the hilarity. Just don't want to see Soulkey in 2nd because then Maru would be fucked
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invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
June 06 2014 01:59 GMT
#18
Inno/Zest please i don't want a repeat of group B (of course SoulKey advancing would be nice too)
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
June 06 2014 01:59 GMT
#19
Champion of Evil, hahaha.

Out of Curiosity, is there anyone who WANTS shine to go through?
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
June 06 2014 02:05 GMT
#20
My prediction:
Shine > Soulkey
Zest < INnoVation
Shine > INnoVation
Zest > Soulkey
Zest < INnoVation

SHINEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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