On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote: The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team.
Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point.
I do. I want to see the best BW gamers at SC2 playing well, not someone good at BW flounder through SC2
Except..your best bw players have the highest chance of being good at sc2. See current best sc2 player- immvp, aka best bw player to switch over except for forgg.
But that doesn't mean shit right now. If all of a sudden the NBA switched from to basketball to baseketball, that doesn't mean labron james or kobe braynt are going to be the best instantly. They have the best mechanics/best training enviroment, so long term they're going to be among the best, but right now, I think it's going to be horrible compared to GSL.
Well if you really feel that way noone's forcing you to watch
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
Not a waste of money. Introducing legends into the scene will bring in profit eventually. The whole reason to have them here is because they're legends. If you were to fly Michael Jordan or Gordon Hayward overseas to play soccer who would you rather send? Just having Jordan in Europe would make everyone ejaculate into the air.
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
So Anaheim selling out because of it is a waste of money?
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
So Anaheim selling out because of it is a waste of money?
It was announced that it was going to sell out before the announcement. The games just aren't going to be that good. I think I, and a lot of other people would rather the players actually become competitive before they play a tourney. I don't want to see jaedong bounce out because he doesn't know what to do versus some allin he hasn't seen before because he hasn't played that long. I don't want to see one of the terrans lose a battle in an embarrassing way because they had to make a decision weather to engage or not and they're epecting tanks to actually do a lot of damage. I don't want to see Bisu get 111'd and lose instantly because he's played against that maybe 2 times.
It's going to be disappointing, and a showmatch between MKP and DRG and MMA and Parting or something like that would be so much better (quality wise) and people would still get very excited .
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
So Anaheim selling out because of it is a waste of money?
It was announced that it was going to sell out before the announcement. The games just aren't going to be that good. I think I, and a lot of other people would rather the players actually become competitive before they play a tourney. I don't want to see jaedong bounce out because he doesn't know what to do versus some allin he hasn't seen before because he hasn't played that long. I don't want to see one of the terrans lose a battle in an embarrassing way because they had to make a decision weather to engage or not and they're epecting tanks to actually do a lot of damage. I don't want to see Bisu get 111'd and lose instantly because he's played against that maybe 2 times.
It's going to be disappointing, and a showmatch between MKP and DRG and MMA and Parting or something like that would be so much better (quality wise) and people would still get very excited .
You poor bastard. You poor, poor bastard. By your logic, you clearly were not part of the Brood war era... It's not just the exhibition tournament man, it's them experiencing what is MLG. And you are talking about money, MLG, and KeSPA... LOLOL. KeSPA is fucking jacked, so is MLG.
On May 16 2012 17:27 WhosTheSmuRf wrote: I just want to see bisu playing fuck the others
Bisu is definitely the guy to watch play, but you can't go wrong with any of the other players on the list.
To watch any of these legendary players play in real life would be epic no matter how you put it.
^Lol @Grampz, couldn't agree with you anymore. I do feel bad for those newer players in our community that don't appreciate the magnitude of this news.
On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote: it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
They've been playing more than they have let on. They wont be that bad either. They play on the korean ladder and a lot of them are high masters. You have to be pretty good to be high masters in Korea. Are they GSL good? No. Thats why they aren't playing in the actual tournament. But for a fun tournament between the BW pros, it should be rather entertaining.
Like I said, They are going to have great mechanics and be doing a clone of a good player's strategy and a few allins. I think it's a waste of money for kespa/MLG to fly them out for this; people are going to ejaculate into the air because they've heard these guys are legends, but that's the only reason to have these guys here.
So Anaheim selling out because of it is a waste of money?
It was announced that it was going to sell out before the announcement. The games just aren't going to be that good. I think I, and a lot of other people would rather the players actually become competitive before they play a tourney. I don't want to see jaedong bounce out because he doesn't know what to do versus some allin he hasn't seen before because he hasn't played that long. I don't want to see one of the terrans lose a battle in an embarrassing way because they had to make a decision weather to engage or not and they're epecting tanks to actually do a lot of damage. I don't want to see Bisu get 111'd and lose instantly because he's played against that maybe 2 times.
It's going to be disappointing, and a showmatch between MKP and DRG and MMA and Parting or something like that would be so much better (quality wise) and people would still get very excited .
They said it was going to sell out because of all the awesome stuff thats gonna happen at Anaheim, LIKE FLASH PLAYING SC2 IN AMERICA. Its a huge draw.
You are acting like they will have played the game for 2 days before this tournament when they have played the game for months already. Its not like they only play against each other too. they are on the korean ladder. We've already seen Flash beat KawaiiRice and Quantic.Apocalypse. They are better at the game then you are making them out to be.
And we are already gonna see guys like MKP and DRG at Anaheim. Hell we've already seen them play 3 MLG finals this year.
In an interview they said that the players being sent would have to go through a mini qualifying tournament instead of the favorite big names that people hope for.
On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote: The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team.
Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point.
I do. I want to see the best BW gamers at SC2 playing well, not someone good at BW flounder through SC2
Then you've got years to wait. There's no way any BW progamer will be as good as current top SC2 pros for a long while. If you wanna see how good they really are, time is the key, you're not gonna see it at this MLG for sure.
On May 16 2012 18:35 NoGasfOu wrote: In an interview they said that the players being sent would have to go through a mini qualifying tournament instead of the favorite big names that people hope for.
That's fair I guess, although people want to see the big names playing. Still, the best BW players will probably be the best at SCII out of their teams anyway, although if Baby went and not Jaedong that'd make me sad
On May 12 2012 22:14 Jinsho wrote: I hope the broadcast is free. I have never seen any BW players, so it'd be interesting to check them out vs what I know of SC2 players.
Broadcast is free in 480p
nobody said that yet. The main tournament stream is free on the 480p quality. Nobody said that this specific tournament will be free.
I think in the recent SOTG, Lee said that it would be free.
Edit: source
Just click play, it'll take you right to it
Don't believe it, until I see it, tbh. But I'm excited none the less. Like a little schoolgirl...