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On May 16 2012 06:25 figq wrote:Yeah, because ACE is an alternative military service and it has to be served on their motherland, apparently. Pretty much all of us agree on the picks (since it has been clarified that each team sends just one representative - and because of ACE, should mean one team sends 2). Basically the only problem is about who to drop from: Stork, Jangbi, Bisu, Fantasy (because only one team will get 2 representatives, most certainly). My pick is Jangbi, although it's a very very hard pick, but I just can't see how I could drop one of the other three... Poll: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface)Jangbi (21) 53% Stork (9) 23% Fantasy (9) 23% Bisu (1) 3% 40 total votes Your vote: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface) (Vote): Stork
(Vote): Jangbi
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Fantasy
out of that list, jangbi
bisu and stork are part of TBLS
and fantasy is on fire atm, whereas jangbi isnt so hot
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imagine that... the bw titans coming to play on foreign soil... well some lucky lucky people are gonna meet their heroes at last
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Jaedong, my body is ready.
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On May 16 2012 06:30 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 06:25 figq wrote:On May 12 2012 22:20 GoSuChicken wrote:no firebathero  Yeah, because ACE is an alternative military service and it has to be served on their motherland, apparently. Pretty much all of us agree on the picks (since it has been clarified that each team sends just one representative - and because of ACE, should mean one team sends 2). Basically the only problem is about who to drop from: Stork, Jangbi, Bisu, Fantasy (because only one team will get 2 representatives, most certainly). My pick is Jangbi, although it's a very very hard pick, but I just can't see how I could drop one of the other three... Poll: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface)Jangbi (21) 53% Stork (9) 23% Fantasy (9) 23% Bisu (1) 3% 40 total votes Your vote: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface) (Vote): Stork
(Vote): Jangbi
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Fantasy
out of that list, jangbi bisu and stork are part of TBLS and fantasy is on fire atm, whereas jangbi isnt so hot Exactly my reasoning, but it's still an absurd situation really, because Jangbi, on the other hand, is the reigning OSL champ... As much as I love Calm, maybe they should neglect STX completely in favor of inviting all these 4 guys... I don't know. On the other hand, ignoring a team (not counting ACE who weren't ignored, just couldn't accept) is kind of a dick move, when the fundamental idea in this is each team to send their best player. Tough, tough.
Or maybe they won't send Fantasy, but that's also absurd, since he's statistically the best among the others right now. I don't know, that's why I made a poll.
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I hope free stream = free accessible VODs otherwise I'm gonna be so pissed
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wanted to see fbh too when does his service end?
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On May 16 2012 07:18 Semtext wrote:wanted to see fbh too when does his service end? dunno, but when service ends they often retire from progaming..
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On May 16 2012 06:30 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 06:25 figq wrote:On May 12 2012 22:20 GoSuChicken wrote:no firebathero Yeah, because ACE is an alternative military service and it has to be served on their motherland, apparently. Pretty much all of us agree on the picks (since it has been clarified that each team sends just one representative - and because of ACE, should mean one team sends 2). Basically the only problem is about who to drop from: Stork, Jangbi, Bisu, Fantasy (because only one team will get 2 representatives, most certainly). My pick is Jangbi, although it's a very very hard pick, but I just can't see how I could drop one of the other three... Poll: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface)Jangbi (21) 53% Stork (9) 23% Fantasy (9) 23% Bisu (1) 3% 40 total votes Your vote: Pick one to NOT attend (sadface) (Vote): Stork
(Vote): Jangbi
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Fantasy
out of that list, jangbi bisu and stork are part of TBLS and fantasy is on fire atm, whereas jangbi isnt so hot
i could see jangbi going after all he is the osl defending champion. but it makes sense for stork to go on behalf of samsung as he is part of tbls.
the only other team which could probably send 2 is skt in bisu and fantasy. bisu is also part of tbls. fantasy is silver in last osl and on beast mode
really hard to pick.
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I bet that, even beeing a show tourney, they will take it serious if anyone show them a previous MLG pics with the crowds. Lets hope that they have time to catch up at least enough to make a show in a month.
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The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team.
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On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote:
The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team.
Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point.
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On May 12 2012 22:21 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 22:21 zerglingrodeo wrote:
Jaedong will turn on the rage eyes and win easy. It is called death stare o.O
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL..
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it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine.
I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
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On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote:it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine. I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament
you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
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On May 16 2012 15:41 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote:
The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team. Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point.
I do. I want to see the best BW gamers at SC2 playing well, not someone good at BW flounder through SC2
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My guess would be that Team8 gets to send two players. First because they are in a kind of odd situation without their own main sponsor and all that and second because obviously Jaedong is a huge icon and both KeSPA and MLG would probably want him to be there, but at the same time we have heard that BaBy is quiet sick at SC2 by now. So by letting Team8 send Jaedong and BaBy could be a good thing for the future of Team8. But you never know.
Team8: Jaedong/BaBy (Reasons stated)
KT Rolster: Flash/Lizzy (Flash obviously the biggest starpower and Lizzy because he is GM)
SK Telecom T1: Bisu (Don't know his skill, but Bisu being Bisu should be enough reason to get sent)
CJ Entus: effort (GM)
Woongjin Stars: Soulkey (GM)
Samsung Khan: TurN (GM)
STX SouL: Haven't heard anything from STX other than that Calm is now Terran. No idea here.
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On May 16 2012 16:05 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 16:01 dronefarm wrote:it's gonna suck. They're all going to be terrible compared to the Korean Progamers with so little practice. Sure, long term most can and will be greats, but with so little practice time, they're not going to understand a lot of the game, zergs are going to outright die to 1 and 2 base allins a lot, nothings going to be really refined and a lot of them are going to be doing allins because they're the easiest to refine. I wish they wouldn't do this. Give the BW pros time to become competitive with the game before you host a tournament you know they are playing in Proleague this weekend right?
And? They haven't been playing long, they shouldn't be doing proleague in star2 either. It's going to make their BW less refined because they're going to be practicing mostly star2, and they don't have the experience with star2. You're going to see generic builds with probably pretty good execution, but you're not going to see the refinement and understanding that current star2 pros in korea have. I'd rather have a showmatch between 2 really good players or a couple of showmatches.
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On May 16 2012 16:08 Gosi wrote:
My guess would be that Team8 gets to send two players. First because they are in a kind of odd situation without their own main sponsor and all that and second because obviously Jaedong is a huge icon and both KeSPA and MLG would probably want him to be there, but at the same time we have heard that BaBy is quiet sick at SC2 by now. So by letting Team8 send Jaedong and BaBy could be a good thing for the future of Team8. But you never know.
Team8: Jaedong/BaBy (Reasons stated)
KT Rolster: Flash/Lizzy (Flash obviously the biggest starpower and Lizzy because he is GM)
SK Telecom T1: Bisu (Don't know his skill, but Bisu being Bisu should be enough reason to get sent)
CJ Entus: effort (GM)
Woongjin Stars: Soulkey (GM)
Samsung Khan: TurN (GM)
STX SouL: Haven't heard anything from STX other than that Calm is now Terran. No idea here.
TurN already GM? Love his unorthodox style in BW 
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On May 16 2012 16:07 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 15:41 Ruscour wrote:On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote:
The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team. Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point. I do. I want to see the best BW gamers at SC2 playing well, not someone good at BW flounder through SC2
Except..your best bw players have the highest chance of being good at sc2. See current best sc2 player- immvp, aka best bw player to switch over except for forgg.
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On May 16 2012 16:44 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 16:07 BluePanther wrote:On May 16 2012 15:41 Ruscour wrote:On May 16 2012 15:40 BluePanther wrote:
The assumption that the best BW player on each team is also the best SC2 player seems flawed. I have a feeling it may not be the crazy good BW guys, but rather the SC2 guys who are best on each team. Why? No-one cares how good they are at SC2 really, everyone just wants to see their BW heroes. Sending their best SC2 players would kinda defeat the point. I do. I want to see the best BW gamers at SC2 playing well, not someone good at BW flounder through SC2 Except..your best bw players have the highest chance of being good at sc2. See current best sc2 player- immvp, aka best bw player to switch over except for forgg.
But that doesn't mean shit right now. If all of a sudden the NBA switched from to basketball to baseketball, that doesn't mean labron james or kobe braynt are going to be the best instantly. They have the best mechanics/best training enviroment, so long term they're going to be among the best, but right now, I think it's going to be horrible compared to GSL.
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