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On April 18 2011 13:16 Toastmold wrote:
I don't suppose there is a link to the controversial intermission video? I am intrigued.
Nope, check reddit, they arnt airing it. NASL went against LAGTVs warnings about the episode and that they should air the 2nd one they sent it because the one they aired was more controversial ect ect. LAGTV also asked NASL higher ups if it was okay to use the word rape and foul language and they assured them that it was fine.
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I wish they fixed the spoiler thing
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make maps like shattered temple/metal non close positions
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On April 18 2011 16:28 windsupernova wrote:
But yeah mostly you are right, they can just be doing stuff like that just they found them annoying. The mods need to be a little more professional if they are too trigger happy with the banhammer
Exactly. Morfildur just mentioned B.net as an example - I find that ironic since Blizzard actually has a proper hiring process for their forum managers and Blizzard screens through the applicants accordingly. As much as we grype about the B.net forums, the B.net forum managers are 100x more professional than the unpaid, inconsistent, thin skinned, trigger happy, amateur mods in the NASL channel.
Frankly speaking, NASL shouldn't be using amateur mods and if NASL insists on using amateur mods, at least train them on how to deal with customers.
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Just a super-minor thing - but Div. 4 standings need to be amended to show Catz and Goody's correct record (got them switched on the site). 
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On April 18 2011 14:58 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 14:38 ghostnuke1234 wrote:On April 18 2011 14:24 Hokay wrote:On April 18 2011 13:36 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Also, don't perma-IP ban people from chat with no explanation or route for seeking recourse. This has made me a little bitter considering I never said anything half as offensive as the trolls and racists who I see getting ten minute time outs... Chat was pretty interesting today lol. I was watching it more than the games at times because the amount of ip banning in chat was crazy, and a lot of them weren't offensive at all. Like "Cali people wake up baked because of all the weed in the air" got a ban. Someone got banned for saying "Why is the quality so bad? >_>" or "stream is bad". The NASL stream now defaults to 240p, that's why many people were questioning the quality of the stream, or thought the free stream downgraded. The mods punished chatters for anything that was slightly perceived as negative towards the NASL with a permaban (you can tell if it is an ip ban if you see no timeout on the top left the stream) and at times, with a time out. Paid viewers were also getting banned for expressing their dislikes of certain things like the commentating. I'm not sure if this is the way to mod the chat or wanting people to like NASL or buy a premium ticket. Exactly. NASL just lost alot of revenue in their next season. They will know when the subscription numbers drop off a cliff in the next season. Unfortunately for the NASL, since this is a business, getting customers to subscribe is alot harder than losing customers. It's apparent that the owners of NASL don't realize this and sadly, once they do realize this, they may not get these same customers back. The NASL has no idea how hard it will be to get these same customers to return once they have pushed them away. All because their channel is run unprofessionally with unprofessional and untrained mods. Why the NASL even gives mod status to untrained mods is perplexing in the first place. For 100% of other businesses out there, they interview candidates properly and go through a selective hiring process to find the best customer representatives that can best handle customers. They then train these customer representatives further on how to deal with customers. Probably 90% of the mods on the NASL channel are not well equipped to deal professionally with real customers (or they really don't care about NASL's bottom line and ban indiscriminantly anyways). I wasn't there to read the chat but i like it if a channel is strictly moderated and would not pay if it wasn't moderated harshly. What does "Cali people wake up baked because of all the weed in the air" have to do with the games or NASL? It's pure trolling... And if you want to complain, there are many better ways than the Chat. If you go to McDonalds and yell "McDonalds Food is horrible", they will throw you out, too. We want a "TeamLiquid like"-chat, not the "bnet forums"- or even "reddit"-chat...
I think there's a point to be made about the perma-bans. I wanna make the connection with blizzard's diablo2. You can make the most horrible things in that game, you can hack, cheat, bot, and you STILL get a warning before the permanent ban. That's because Bliz realizes that even the assholes are paying customers, and they give them another chance. If they just banned everyone immediately for some minor hacking like a color hack, they would lose a whole ton of customers that way.
The reason that TL can ban people left and right (for legitimate reasons) is obviously because they don't run any risk of losing customers doing so. Bliz is a company and afaik they never perma-ban people for what they say on the forums without turning to a temp-ban first.
I do prefer, if not a warning, but at least going to a temp-ban solution.
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On April 18 2011 17:10 Liquid`HuK wrote:
make maps like shattered temple/metal non close positions
They have announced that from next week, close positions on those maps will be eliminated.
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Plz dont wait for the Vods to be uploaded after the restream.. I PAYED for the ticket and i am not able to watch that stuff and i am forced to watch the shitty restream even though i payed which is ridicoulus...if i wouldnt watch the restream i would be able to watch the games 2 days after the US guys....have fun to avoid spoilers...
they uploaed The vods from day 1 after their first broadcast and didnt delayed it for the restream in europe ----
HIUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me and without that getting fixed there is NO point for me to buy the premium stuff again cause i will keep trying to watch the restream cause its my earliest possibility to watch that stuff...
Played games on MONDAY
Broadcast games On US on Wed
Rebroadcast in EU on Thursday evening
uploading VOds for Paying customer... Night from Thursday to friday..
SO PLAYED on Monday.. SPoiled from Wednesday on (nasl.tv Tl.net etc) and watchable for me on friday if i want the highquality VODs for which i pay...
ARE YOU F....G KIDDING ME?
feel pretty pissed atm
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It lagged for 3 seconds for me between 2 matchs, was watching live from eu at a terrible time and only get to see most of my favourites players in the world playing fking amazing games, but still, 3 seconds of lag guys, ain't acceptable i want the 25$ i didn't pay back!
On a serious note, what the hell does people want, this thing we're talking about is beyond amazing, every player you ever cheered for is in it, every one of them is taking it seriously and giving hard time to each other, batteling it out at some top notch level as far as i've seen...
Still can't believe that's all free, keep it up NASL guys.
And to the people bitching about the ads, get real a bit please, it's not only to make muchos $$$, it also work like LAN entry fee, you will never ever have a so high prize pool without little things like it..
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in my opinion i dont think it would be a good idea to release the VODs before the EU broadcast. If they would, nobody would watch the restream.
Sometimes there are some of the vods (not all of them) uploaded during the day. I hope they change it to either upload ALL of the vods before or after the cast (not some of them before, some after)
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TOFUGRINDER.... TELL ME PLZ..
Why would a paying customer want to watch the restream which is lower on quality and with adds..
YOu only have accsess to the Vods on Justin if you have payed? right?
so premium guys should watch on Justin.tv whenever they want after the first broadcast...
and Non premium guys have to watch it live,.... wheter it is live or restream...
all the guys that haven payed dont have accsess to the VODs anyways so where is the point?
situation is that all the guys that havent payed can watch it live..
and the guys that have payed can watch it 2 days later.. whis is so senseless so i start watching the restream aswell .. and theN i think about WTF AM I PAYING 25 BUCKS ???#
i am fine with all the other problems and i wouldnt bother but give me the content i have payed for and not delay that shit for a free restream
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On April 18 2011 20:49 Telefonmann wrote:
TOFUGRINDER.... TELL ME PLZ..
Why would a paying customer want to watch the restream which is lower on quality and with adds..
and all the other guys that haven payed dont have accsess to the VODs anyways so where is the point?
seriously i cant understand your rage. Even when there would be things going ridiculously wrong (which arent) there is no need to freak out.. it's nasl's first week.
I've never seen an ad in the restream, but i didn't have a chance to catch the latest streams. If they are during the breaks I dont care. And no, it's not lower quality, I always watch in 1080p, live or not live
as i said before: they should do it always before or after (not split up). If there are more people like you who want the vods before the restream they might have a look into it, but you can't expect from nasl to change anything with statements like "ARE YOU F... G KIDDING ME?"
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again..tell me one ratinal reason why it would be good too delay the the vods for the restream . cause again paying customers want to watch theri high quality whenever i want to watch VODS and not the i have to be at hhome at 7 o clock t catch a laggy restream....
i payed and there is just NO REASON at all
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On April 18 2011 21:07 Telefonmann wrote:
again..tell me one ratinal reason why it would be good too delay the the vods for the restream . cause again paying customers want to watch theri high quality whenever i want to watch VODS and not the i have to be at hhome at 7 o clock t catch a laggy restream....
i payed and there is just NO REASON at all
The VODs are up as soon as the american stream ends. But they dont show up on their homepage until later. Thye show up on justin.tv as long chunks of like 2h videos named "NASL Week One Division Four".
Can be found here if you want to see tha games sooner. You just have to figure out which one to start with (just check the time they ware posted)
http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone/videos?kind=past_broadcasts
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i agree with everything the dude said about improving NASL!
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I am currently watching the NASL VOD's and I would like to point out that the recorded quality needs to be checked as the game is lagging quite a bit. I am not talking about the stream as the audio is continuous but the gameplay is horribly low FPS. Currently watching DDe vs NaDa.
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Could you add a timer before the next match?
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Really liked the SC1 music in the background last night! ^^
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@ Greggor
Ok first i thought wow he is right.. they mislabel stuff etc.. but i was talking the whole time about the vods on justin.tv cause i know on nasl.tv theey will be up even later ( linked etc )
But again.. show me where are the Day 5 Vods of Idra etc which were broadcastet last night....
THEY ARE NOT UP.... and the wont be until after the restream finishes....i used your link i am still loggen in with my account on justin and all i see under past casts is a big NOTHING regarding day5
the Day4 Vods which are available are from saturday....
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