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bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
March 23 2011 01:39 GMT
#421
My thoughts, "Why are delta quadrant and scrap station still in the map pool?"
IcedteaDota
Profile Joined January 2011
223 Posts
March 23 2011 01:41 GMT
#422
Can anyone else not see ladder standings while on Bnet?
Fwiffo
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 02:11:41
March 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#423
On March 23 2011 10:36 Teivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:21 Fwiffo wrote:
As I've suggested before, instead of removing KA, restrict HTs to Gateways only (not built from Warp Gates w/ Warp Ins). Plus move Immortals back to Gateways (also not from Warp Gates).


same problem?

"hey guys im a terran i just wiped out this protoss with emp e-Z and now he has to warp in templar to defend his base... LETS GO ATTAC HIS BASE"

"hey guys im terran i just wiped out this protoss with emp e-Z and now he has to build templar out of his gateways in his base... LETS GO ATTAC HIS BASE"

moving robo to gateway is a terrible idea immortal stalker templar would be way too easy to get


So you feel removing KA is better? At least this way you can queue up you HTs and when built they've got storm.

Also, how is it 'too easy to get' if Immortals are built at Gateways? You still need another structure after Core - Twilight Council. Immortals will still be bloody expensive and still fill a very niche role - Anti Armor. You wouldn't want to build a lot of them unless your opponent goes mass Marauder or Roaches. Which quite frankly is quite often and should be discouraged.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#424
On March 23 2011 10:41 IcedteaSC2 wrote:
Can anyone else not see ladder standings while on Bnet?


What Icedtea said, I'm unable to see my current standing in my division and can't check other people's points. Anyone else having this problem?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Fwiffo
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada57 Posts
March 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#425
On March 23 2011 11:00 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:41 IcedteaSC2 wrote:
Can anyone else not see ladder standings while on Bnet?


What Icedtea said, I'm unable to see my current standing in my division and can't check other people's points. Anyone else having this problem?


Give it some time... the patch isn't available to everyone just yet. Until the patch is synchronized those stats will be mismatched.
Flying_Cake
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada117 Posts
March 23 2011 02:11 GMT
#426
I just realized that the infestors does the same amount of damage in shorter time. So this is basicly a huge buff! Awesome!
Ftwpker
Profile Joined January 2011
United States165 Posts
March 23 2011 02:12 GMT
#427
Bnet is dying again
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CorrectSyntax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5 Posts
March 23 2011 02:15 GMT
#428
It looks like Battlenet is down again, and there is no way I'm clicking on this "Surrender" button while I have this big of a lead.
Electroice1
Profile Joined November 2010
United States5 Posts
March 23 2011 02:16 GMT
#429
OMG this patch buffs fungal growth so much and nerfs protoss 2 much ;;
Alright, Diamond league here I come :)
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
March 23 2011 02:18 GMT
#430
really buggy atm
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
CallmeMuppet
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland176 Posts
March 23 2011 02:35 GMT
#431
Love the changes, hopefully we will see infestors used more often now.

I also like removing the w/l ratio, it's easier to celebrate for people who are not into competition as top tier players.

Can't wait to ladder.
murkk
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada154 Posts
March 23 2011 02:37 GMT
#432
+30 seconds to stim?

WOW

Unbelievable.

Biggest nerf yet to Terran. That's huge.

Who cares about EMP or the amulet. This nerf is so core to any bio timing build, or even just being able to survive early.

I'm glad I'm not a pro who has to rework every build and timing play they have. Although most of the Terrans got knocked out in the TSL3 in the first round, I'm dying to see how the last two can adapt. Go Boxer :-).
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
March 23 2011 02:39 GMT
#433
The stim nerf is incredibly bizarre. I can't say I've ever watched a game where a Protoss lost to an early stim push when he himself wasn't at fault. If it's a volatile early game they're trying to address, they're going about it in the wrong way.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 23 2011 02:47 GMT
#434
On March 23 2011 11:37 murkk wrote:
+30 seconds to stim?

WOW

Unbelievable.

Biggest nerf yet to Terran. That's huge.

Who cares about EMP or the amulet. This nerf is so core to any bio timing build, or even just being able to survive early.

I'm glad I'm not a pro who has to rework every build and timing play they have. Although most of the Terrans got knocked out in the TSL3 in the first round, I'm dying to see how the last two can adapt. Go Boxer :-).

Boxer's games were incredibly boring. 200/200 EMP ball vs. 200/200 colossus death ball. I imagine with the patch everyone's going to start doing that.

And yeah, I haven't lost to that stim timing push in a long time now. It's not very meaningful.
murkk
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada154 Posts
March 23 2011 03:07 GMT
#435
And yeah, I haven't lost to that stim timing push in a long time now. It's not very meaningful.


How can you say it's not meanful. You can expand earlier. You can attack earlier with much greater chance of winning. Stimmed bio is absolutely crucial to defense against phoenix, voidray, muta, banshee, blink stalker and bling harass.

I mean, it's like adding 30 seconds to warpgate tech. Sure, it doesn't mean much in the later stages of the game, but it's hardly trivial.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 23 2011 03:20 GMT
#436
On March 23 2011 12:07 murkk wrote:
Show nested quote +
And yeah, I haven't lost to that stim timing push in a long time now. It's not very meaningful.


How can you say it's not meanful. You can expand earlier. You can attack earlier with much greater chance of winning. Stimmed bio is absolutely crucial to defense against phoenix, voidray, muta, banshee, blink stalker and bling harass.

I mean, it's like adding 30 seconds to warpgate tech. Sure, it doesn't mean much in the later stages of the game, but it's hardly trivial.


Why does it matter that stim takes 30 seconds longer when you're defending against phoenix, voidray, muta, banshee, blink stalker or banelings? You have any idea how long those things take to make?

Warp gate is necessary to defend against certain builds. It also allowed for proxy gates to be ridiculously effective to the point that it was all that protoss ever did. That's why it was nerfed. That made sense, because it changed the game. Stim nerf doesn't.

You also don't use stim when you're setting up a contain, which is what you want to do if the point of your pressure is to expand. Otherwise you're just throwing away units in a futile push.
intOx_HH
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
March 23 2011 03:24 GMT
#437
So, about 1.3, what's with the leagues being locked? How do I get promoted now?
There's no time, man!
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
March 23 2011 03:25 GMT
#438
On March 23 2011 10:50 Fwiffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:36 Teivospy wrote:
On March 23 2011 10:21 Fwiffo wrote:
As I've suggested before, instead of removing KA, restrict HTs to Gateways only (not built from Warp Gates w/ Warp Ins). Plus move Immortals back to Gateways (also not from Warp Gates).


same problem?

"hey guys im a terran i just wiped out this protoss with emp e-Z and now he has to warp in templar to defend his base... LETS GO ATTAC HIS BASE"

"hey guys im terran i just wiped out this protoss with emp e-Z and now he has to build templar out of his gateways in his base... LETS GO ATTAC HIS BASE"

moving robo to gateway is a terrible idea immortal stalker templar would be way too easy to get


So you feel removing KA is better? At least this way you can queue up you HTs and when built they've got storm.



The point he's making is that there's virtually no effective difference. Either you have to wait to gain energy, or you have to wait to produce the unit. Either way, you have to wait.

On March 23 2011 10:50 Fwiffo wrote:
Also, how is it 'too easy to get' if Immortals are built at Gateways? You still need another structure after Core - Twilight Council. Immortals will still be bloody expensive and still fill a very niche role - Anti Armor. You wouldn't want to build a lot of them unless your opponent goes mass Marauder or Roaches. Which quite frankly is quite often and should be discouraged.


The point is that one of the restrictions that Immortals have is that they have a completely different production building. If you want to mass them, you either have to throw down a lot of Robos, or you have to wait for them to walk out one or two at a time. If you can build as many Immortals as there are Gateways/Warpgates, then they would need to be weaker to compensate.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
titan_tase
Profile Joined November 2010
Cyprus17 Posts
March 23 2011 03:28 GMT
#439
Can't connect to my NA account but I see many streams from it...so I guess it's just me having my main account on EU server that is now down and for some stupid reason the battlenet probably tries to autenticate me on EU server (???) before letting me login in my NA account.

sux to have 2 accounts and not being able to play either of them!
CuHz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States354 Posts
March 23 2011 04:23 GMT
#440
On March 23 2011 08:50 CuHz wrote:
Anyone else getting the "you are not ranked 1v1 ladder" ??

i cant see myself in my ladder / rank / divisoin / bonuspool / etc


BUT my other account has no problems


I thought it was a ladder reset but i was wrong.


[image loading]


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^ anyone having this same problem?

i cant view ANYONES league / division / rank
NA GM protoss twitch.tv/cuhzx
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