The Death of the Hydra? - Page 4
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
-however i think the new sc2 hydra has a lot more uses than it did in bw. hydras require tier 2. overlords at tier 2 now have the ability to drop creep, hence a speed upgrade! -vs terran bio armies with medivacs demolish hydras. same with tanks with support. however they shine at taking out air units. unfortunately most zerg in order to prevent air, go air themselves. this renders the hydra unused -vs zerg roaches mid game and infestors late game are the dominant strategy. hydras have good added dps, and are good if the zerg suspects the other zerg is switching to an air tech since roaches cannot shoot up. other than that i don't see many applicable senses for them. -vs protoss hydras are extremely effective vs gateway units. however their low hp renders them near useless vs splash units (cols/temps). however i see small groups of hydras being very effective at taking out tech structures. drops/nydus would make them far more mobile and lethal. also they add awesome defense vs air harass or drops from other opponents. hydras do have a role in zvp, just not the mass 1 unit and end the game solution. i think we'll see plenty of growth in hydra usage as the game develops further. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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mierin
United States4938 Posts
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GLayne
Canada11 Posts
Just throwing out a random idea. | ||
Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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Drium
United States888 Posts
1 means that they will have a role in the midgame as the unit to get against air units before you can get corrupters, and 2 means that mixing in a few hydras with a roach composition will usually make it slightly stronger because the hydras can shoot over the roaches and do more damage. There's also 2 base all ins with hydras that are just starting to become more developed. I don't think they will see as much play as they did in BW but I don't think they will disappear either. | ||
Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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lagbzz
Poland171 Posts
I don't use them in ZvT - in favor of mutas, infestors and whatnot. I'd rather make mass queen vs. air if that's the case . | ||
Dragar
United Kingdom971 Posts
I don't think they're even good anti-air any more; pheonix are frighteningly good against hydra in large enough numbers. | ||
borny
China481 Posts
So yes. Change the Hydra!! | ||
hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
Bad game design has led to the state of the hydra, where you can "1a" and devastate a P gateway unit army or lose to a "1a" colossus ball. I really don't think there isn't anything in between. There are several drops timing that Z can take advantage of and kill stargate openers against P like Moon showed us in IEM, but that's about it imho. I really don't see how it is possible to buff the hydra without breaking early/mid game vs P whille gateway units remain so weak. Again I think this is designer's lack of insight to leave such a high dps unit do full damage to all armor types and have it be extremely weak as a drawback; aka "glass cannon" concept. | ||
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 08 2011 09:06 Mailing wrote: After 1.3, Hydra will never be seen in ZvZ again. Infestors and their + damage to armored will take over their DPS role IMO. This will also be the same for void rays and stalkers.... hydra just don't live long enough for their DPS to matter. Bring THESE back. QQ I love how they have visible spit! And I agree entirely, what would be the point of hydras if Infestors are a bigger gas devourer and do now significant damage (with burrow movement). | ||
Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Zerg needs units which fulfill an important role, not quirky stuff. | ||
Dragar
United Kingdom971 Posts
On March 08 2011 10:02 kasumimi wrote: Bad game design has led to the state of the hydra, where you can "1a" and devastate a P gateway unit army But you can't. You really can't. Collosi can 'devastate' hydras; the effectiveness of hydras against gateway armies pales in comparison. They're just 'good', and only as support. | ||
primarch359
United States119 Posts
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Reborn58
United States238 Posts
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dark fury
Sweden426 Posts
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