EPTGrubby is impressive - Page 8
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IntoTheBush
United States552 Posts
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ilikeLIONZ
Germany427 Posts
but i still enjoy his games, his micro management is just impressive. (see the quick and sudden surround of the marine on jungle basin, with his probes sliding down to his natural - great reaction) | ||
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
Very happy to see he's playing SC2, I just wish he'd be playing it fulltime instead of in his spare time after WC3 or w/e | ||
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
Still he was a very good wc3 player back then (I remember he was probably the best when he was on the 4 Kings team) | ||
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Delicious.Cake
Germany74 Posts
But his SC2 yesterday@ Assembly was just terribad... Really guys stop hyping him, he made worse decisions then people 3 days into the beta. | ||
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joheinous
Iceland522 Posts
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
In game 1, the decision going Carriers instead of trying to stomp the front was good, he just saw PF'ses and marauders camping, and there was no good angle to attack. He was making good moves with the HT's storming the frontlines and the back. Did u guys miss how he was saccing his probes, but then pulled his probes back to include a HT to feedback FOUR medivacs? He was testing the front on both sides, trying to get good storms off on the vikings, trying to break the expo of Sarens. even if he could win at the at the 30min mark with the 6 carriers and a mothership! But it looked like he was scared for the 8-10~ vikings, even tho carriers own vikings hard. Overall, very good game by both of them. in Game 2, When he was 4gating, when he tested the front and see that he could not break that, I like how he fell back to expand, to bad it was scouted. And I was no fan on expanding again to the top. I can't remember much about that game, but he made to many immortals?, anyway I don't wanna get to much into that game. in Game 3 I saw some very good decisions again. For once the marine block, that is not as easy as it looks like. He tried to split his workers up with the Stop -> F1 click > F1 click. Smart, but ineffective when the hellions are already there as you could see  (I'm more a fan of the box 3, click, box 3, click method)The attack in the back was smart, planned out for sure, but smart. When Sarens kinda went allin with his counter attack, Grubby lost a few units, when he could kill at least 1 tank there, and lost the same amount of units. When he let his expo die there, there was no excuse for it as well, big blunder. But on the counter attack with the zealots and stalkers, Loved it! good plan! But then, then final attack by grubby, I did not see if he saw where the tanks were, or what went on in his mind, but for me it looked like he TRIED to avoid the tanks with the collosi, big mistake in my eyes, he could snipe the tanks from A) His expo edge or B) just left of his ramp on the high ground (both with nothing hitting them, apart from few viking hits after 1 or 2 tanks would have been sniped, but then stalkers could have hit them) But he did the worst possible angle, but I liked the part he TRIED to make a good angle. This is from my perspective, and just from seeing it once, but overall I saw good things and hope he learns from this, and hope to see more from him in the future. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On February 12 2011 11:45 LuckyFool wrote: I don't really understand everyones concern about grubby being impressive at sc2 right away... It's almost as if this thread is trying to justifying his skill or something which I find odd. He was unarguably the best war3 player in history? (Sorry didn't follow war3 closely but I know he won 3 wcg grand finals?) the guys legacy is already immense, why would him struggling at a new game that he's hardly played for a month make any difference to his legacy... Give it time, I'm sure if he dedicates himself he can be a top sc2 player. Right now he's literally been playing for a month, I don't really understand all of this discussion/debate, why? I know he played in a TL Open a few weeks ago and lost in the first round to theognis... O_o Good post, I have to say. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
SC2 is a young mans game.. newer progamers like MVP and Sangho are the future for SC2 right now. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On February 12 2011 22:18 Skyze wrote: Also everyone keep in mind.. the two most successful BW players of all time who are currently playing SC2.. Nada and Boxer... havent really been that impressive yet either. I can see multiple mistakes in their games too, stuff that if Moon or Grubby did in a game the BW crowd would be "OMG THEY SUCK"... People were expecting Nada to clean up everyone because of his talent, but that clearly didnt happen. Boxer got to a Ro4? but other than that, hasnt looked as solid as the other GSL top-8 people. SC2 is a young mans game.. newer progamers like MVP and Sangho are the future for SC2 right now. They've been quite a bit more impressive than Moon for example though. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On February 12 2011 22:22 Squeegy wrote: They've been quite a bit more impressive than Moon for example though. Maybe so but they are the KINGS of esports, like when you think of the most popular guy in ALL of esports, you think Boxer.. when you think of the most consistent in ALL of esports, Nada.. By those standards, they are not living up to their expectations. And remember, this is Starcraft 2, not Warcraft 4. And honestly, I think Lyn would beat either one of them right now. Moon is still juggling both games, and isnt 100% focused on SC outside of the few days before GSL matches. | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
On February 12 2011 21:36 IntoTheBush wrote: its not very difficult to learn Protoss in a few weeks. Just watch a lot of replays, and play with some top tier players and u basically have it down.. especially coming from an RTS background. I mean I NEVER played the beta, yet I made it to diamond the first day sc2 was released. p = ezpz IMO Look who talks  Guess you're a zerg player. Terran is even more easier in my opinion. Since it lacks of balance in ZvT, T gets an advantage and you do really a lot of skill when it comes to 1a your bio ball and when a protoss goes for the storms, most of the T's are just dead and saying its imba, even though they can't micro at all besides of going 1a, just can't. I do manage to beat like 3000-3200 master players with my T, compared with that, what I haven't even played more than 100games with a terran, so please. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On February 12 2011 22:25 Skyze wrote: Maybe so but they are the KINGS of esports, like when you think of the most popular guy in ALL of esports, you think Boxer.. when you think of the most consistent in ALL of esports, Nada.. By those standards, they are not living up to their expectations. And remember, this is Starcraft 2, not Warcraft 4. And honestly, I think Lyn would beat either one of them right now. Moon is still juggling both games, and isnt 100% focused on SC outside of the few days before GSL matches. Everyone agrees that time has ran past them. They are legends, not current champions. Really? Lyn? I have to say I don't share that opinion. I thought Moon said he practises for the game with tournaments at that moment. What WC3 tournaments has he played recently? This is actually what Nada does too, he said he doesn't practise much unless there's a tournament. | ||
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FaZiNaTe
Germany290 Posts
But for sure he is not even a really good Master leagues player because his lack of macro is quite huge at the moment. If he is able to clear the problem like some other top players ( Demuslim,Hasuobs - i was rlly impressed about his PvT on Shakuras vs Sarens) I really looking forward to his play in some months. FaZi | ||
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Novembermike
United States102 Posts
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ReacH.
Scotland333 Posts
Grubby fighting! | ||
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