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On February 12 2011 13:24 Jibba wrote:
I was surprised and I completely enjoyed all of Grubby's games. It's pretty clear he's got a long way to go, but he brought more of WC3 into SC2 than any of the other WC3 players and it did put him in advantageous positions (even though he couldn't capitalize.)
Also, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when he built 3 gateways with 3 probes.
HuK does the exact same thing (build 4 pylons with 4 probes) when he is in a back-and-forth game  I should really stop watching so much sc2 T_T
I'm actually impressed by how few trolls are scurrying about this thread, but when they do they're hilarious:
On February 12 2011 14:23 PrideNeverDie wrote:Reckless counterattacks and ill-advised decisions are the play of BitByBitPrime, not of someone we can place our hopes to be a top sc2 player.
bwahahahahaha
Complimenting every single failure by Grubby will only alienate sc2 fans from him, because he is not deserving of such exposure in sc2.
I think TLO is overrated (and he thinks so himself), but I'm not going around telling people that his results so far are bad and they shouldn't place their hopes in him. That's just a piss poor attitude and noone wants to hear that shit.
You obviously have a very shallow understanding of RTS if you value solid build orders by such a new player that has the muscle memory of YEARS of training a completely different game. I've outlined pretty clearly why I was impressed by certain factors of his play, but you just seem interested in re-wording my statements in a way that makes him look bad, lacking the ability to read and comprehend basic logic arguments.
Who are you to say who deserves exposure and who doesn't?
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Enjoyed grubby's games, he played well and... different. Will be awesome to see what happens when he dedicates 2 months to playing solely sc2.
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Grubby will dominate sc2 in europe as he did with wc3....... its just a matter of time.
He did much better than i expected for 3weeks of practice, cant wait too see more of him 
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There is no reason whatsoever why someone who is a WC3 pro cannot become extremely good at SC2.
Having played my share of WC3 and now graduating to SC2, I have really begun to dislike WC3. The creeping, the randomness, the heroes etc. etc. But there are definitely skills WC3 pros will have picked up which they would not have done exclusively playing BW which will make them bring something different to the table. We should embrace any RTS pro gamer from whatever their background because they will help make SC2 more diverse.
And for my two cents, I think Grubby has great potential. He (or anyone who has a great deal of raw talent) just has to invest ten thousand hours or so into SC2 and he will flourish.
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Whatever Grubby decides to do, ill support him.
Grubster HWAITINGGGG
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"Grubby is impressive" He is not.
His inability to attack is impressive
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He's a nice guy and deserves his shot.
Give him time, no one can beat many pro's with only a few weeks/months serious play.
I think he will do OK.
In a year of high level play a lot can happen, he will be able to practice with his team and maybe, just maybe take down the odd tourney.
I look forwards to seeing him play a lot more SC2 and wish the guy well.
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People overall should stop hyping players. Grubby at the moment is not what he was in WC3, period.
There is nothing else to add, everything is open, but I don't think he will be dominant because it's just not possible at the moment (SjoW crushing so many tournament and then baam disappearing, that's just how the game is right now).
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On February 12 2011 20:59 WhiteDog wrote:
People overall should stop hyping players. Grubby at the moment is not what he was in WC3, period.
There is nothing else to add, everything is open, but I don't think he will be dominant because it's just not possible at the moment (SjoW crushing so many tournament and then baam disappearing, that's just how the game is right now).
Sjow going out early in one tournament means that he has disappeared?
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I don't buy it that he's been playing for 3 weeks. More like 2 months.
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He might be good later on, and considering he's only played for 3 weeks i guess he's doing ok.
However, his play was really bad. Some parts of his play was good, but other parts were really terrible.
But i dont think he will actually become a pro at sc2.
GL to him though
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The only thing that this shows is how easy game sc2 is.
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I don't buy it that he's been playing for 3 weeks. More like 2 months.
Yeah i remember SirScoots saying that Grubby played SC2 on his pc like a few months ago. I think Grubby didn't play good at all. But obviously that expectable considering he played against people like Tyler ... btw, Tyler's build in game 1 was weird ass! :D
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On February 12 2011 21:10 mdb wrote:
The only thing that this shows is how easy game sc2 is.
Trolling for a 
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Anyone who followed WC3 a little bit could have told you he is very talented/hardworking. It's not that surprising.
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On February 12 2011 21:17 RoyalCheese wrote:Yeah i remember SirScoots saying that Grubby played SC2 on his pc like like a few months ago. I think Grubby didn't play good at all. But obviously that expectable considering he played against people like Tyler ... btw, Tyler's build in game 1 was weird ass! :D
Tells us how much you know about the game...
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Grubby wasnt bad but he certainly played more than 3 weeks. Thats for sure. He played since beta, even tho it wasnt fulltime.
But I will definatly be looking forward to his games in the future.
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It really doesnt matter if he played for 3 weeks or 3 months. Even 3 months isnt enought to play a major LAN tournament vs people like Ret(One of the best zergs out there in EU atm) or a BW veteran.
All the haters makes it sound as if you can just give someone a SC2 copy, make them play for a couple of weeks/months and then ure ready to win tournaments. Thats bullshit.
Yes, Grubby is/was a WC3 LEGEND, he as won pretty much everything that can be won more than once, and he has with this a solid RTS backround. He knows how to micro and the general idea behind RTS. But of course he isnt gonna switch over to a much fster paced game with totally diff mechanics and go and win the first tournament he plays.
And it's not about "brown nosing" Grubby, but he is an overall nice guy who is hardworking and makes for fun games(in Wc3, and hopefully in Sc2). It's just like with Jinro and TLO, they are likeable, I dont care if TLO never wins an Sc2 game again or if Jinro stops playing. I will support them regardless due to the fact that it's not just about the plays, its about the player.
I really hope Grubby will make a successful switch over to Sc2 and show peoplejust how good and smart of a player he is.
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Watching Grubby play SC2 has the same chilling feeling of watching your childhood sports heroes play in their old age.
It's the same name but it's not the same player.
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On February 12 2011 11:55 SladeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 11:52 LuckyFool wrote:On February 12 2011 11:49 starcraft911 wrote:
3 weeks ago my ass. I haven't played in 2 months and he was playing before i quit. I know he was practicing at least some before he played in tsl quali on jan 22nd. so the 3-4 week argument is a slight stretch, maybe 3-4 weeks of hardcore ? dunno. Yes I would say this is the case. He played before in beta, he played on release, I just think since the beginning of release beta he has not been focusing on starcraft as perhaps he did not get the results he was expecting? could make more money with war3? 3 weeks would be the time i'd assume he started taking sc2 more seriously. Saying he's been playing only 3 weeks is ridiculous. I want to see him quit war3 and dedicate himself to starcraft, but he's probably too attached to WC3 from an economical standpoint. I feel if he does not dedicate himself to starcraft he will not be on the same level that some of the other war 3 players are at (Lyn). Looking at his games today he has a long way to go.
Do you have anything to back your assumptions up?
For all you know he only played 50 games during beta to check the game out.
The state of the game has changed quite a bit since the beta anyway so i doubt it was all that useful.
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