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EnderCN
Profile Joined May 2010
United States499 Posts
September 04 2010 12:27 GMT
#61
Thanks for updating the mirror thing. This passes the feel test to me, 40% win rate for Zerg at high play levels sounds about right given their current issues. Shouldn't take very many balance changes to get that closer to 50%.
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 04 2010 14:57 GMT
#62
well it was just "easier" for the coder to add All matches (means also mirrors) and the natural thing to do. He s not an SC2 expert so we had to tell him to exclude them and now its done
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
September 04 2010 15:05 GMT
#63
On August 19 2010 07:07 ChickenLips wrote:
Stats = useless


Statistically this is true.
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Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 05 2010 20:40 GMT
#64
wow today was busy... Zotac, Go4SC2, IEM America, GosuCup, Inno3D Cup - its all in the matchticker/statspage now
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 05 2010 20:44 GMT
#65
On August 19 2010 07:07 ChickenLips wrote:
Stats = useless

The game is way too young and the strategies are by no means anywhere near refined enough to allow these kinds of statistics to have much if any meaning. If you want to discuss TvZ or whatever imbalance use rational arguments and not statistics that are only based on the status quo that is subject to ever-lasting change.


Generally this would make sense, but when the stats match up exactly with what the community has been saying, something's probably up.
:)
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 09 2010 20:59 GMT
#66
gave it another update - hope the coder get the work done soon to see more stats for each MU
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AlphaOfUrOmega
Profile Joined August 2010
United States28 Posts
September 09 2010 22:41 GMT
#67
Thanks for continuing to update, this is interesting information.
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Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 10 2010 09:41 GMT
#68
your welcome - we will have a huge update once all SC2CL 1v1s are added, right now we are only 2 ppl in the staff and i have to work until 7pm each day so its hard to keep up right now
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Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
September 10 2010 10:04 GMT
#69
On September 10 2010 18:41 Tak3r wrote:
your welcome - we will have a huge update once all SC2CL 1v1s are added, right now we are only 2 ppl in the staff and i have to work until 7pm each day so its hard to keep up right now


Are you including Korean tournaments aswell?(GSL, Playxp, Gomtv show matchs, GSL qualifiers?)

Can you breakdown the results by matchup stats aswell, I mean you guys have the data already.
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Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
September 10 2010 10:26 GMT
#70
know what would fix the lack of zerg placement? make the metabolic boost wings allow speed zerglings to have a short ranged super hop or fly ability.10 pool speed rush to hop cliffs into min lines? yes.
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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 10:28:48
September 10 2010 10:28 GMT
#71
On August 19 2010 07:31 Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 06:52 Lunares wrote:
Shows that while there probably is a imbalance towards terran it isn't really that large.

It is interesting to note how many more games terran has. Since this is quarters some might say that terran is imba getting there, I personally think it is just more terrans entering tournaments.


Couldn't it possibly be that more terrans are entering tournaments because Terran is imbalanced?


But the winrate is lower then that of toss. Imo, people just like to bandwagon a race to whine about. Terran isn't perfect, but it isn't really that bad.

And coming from a Zerg player, T is 90% fine, P is gay, and Z is a tiny bit under powered.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
September 10 2010 10:51 GMT
#72
I don't know, yeah stats are pretty useless by themselves, but when people pull these from all kinds of different places in different systems (tournaments + ladder and ladder analyzed in different way) and they all come up with the same results (zerg very UP, terran very OP, protoss slightly OP) it's hard to discount these stats.

it's like when somebody wants to analyze how many fishes are in the sea and goes looking on the beach next to his house, sees no fish at all and concludes that fish have become extinct. of course that's bullshit. but now people from other places get worried and do the same thing in local lakes, at their beaches and even on open the open sea and with submarines in the ocean and they all can't find any fish. kind of looks like fish are really extinct after all, even though a few of those EVIL LOW APM NO MULTITASKING fish hunters argue that it's all a lie and in reality there are still fish we just have to look harder or wait for the "metasea" to evolve until new fish show up :D

lol sorry that probably sounds ridiculous.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 11:18:44
September 10 2010 11:17 GMT
#73
i m shocked Terran is only at 56%, are you sure about that? It seemed to me every random cup i tuned in to watch was almost all terran towards the end
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 10 2010 11:26 GMT
#74
On September 10 2010 20:17 Geo.Rion wrote:
i m shocked Terran is only at 56%, are you sure about that? It seemed to me every random cup i tuned in to watch was almost all terran towards the end

Exactly. Terrans beating Terrans does nothing for their win %.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 10 2010 12:48 GMT
#75
Glad to see this post is still being updated! Sad to see zerg down at 40%
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
September 10 2010 14:50 GMT
#76
This is awesome! Great work.

Also sad is only 3 zergs in the top 20 by 'points' (though I have a feeling this is a subjective thing).

Future idea: winnings. It'd be cool to see what race/players are pulling in the big $$$.
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Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 10 2010 17:08 GMT
#77
On September 10 2010 19:04 Gunman_csz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 18:41 Tak3r wrote:
your welcome - we will have a huge update once all SC2CL 1v1s are added, right now we are only 2 ppl in the staff and i have to work until 7pm each day so its hard to keep up right now


Are you including Korean tournaments aswell?(GSL, Playxp, Gomtv show matchs, GSL qualifiers?)

Can you breakdown the results by matchup stats aswell, I mean you guys have the data already.



Yes we do include korean games, showgames only if its a really big one or if money is involved. GSL is in and also the WTA garimto takedown, the other WTA league will be added soon. Can you give me a bracket link / info link to the Playxp stuff please? We will add it add later then.

Right now we are just 2 ppl so we try to get the current stuff going well - maybe some of you guys are interested to join our site - check out this News then
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Toxigen
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
September 10 2010 20:08 GMT
#78
On August 19 2010 07:30 Necrosjef wrote:
Zerg espicially have hit the ceiling for getting better I think, I doubt there is much more strategies out there that no one has considered yet.

This is where I disagree with most of the people on these boards. Everybody dismisses some of Zerg's more creative options as "gimmicky," but I feel like movement while burrowed and nydus play is still largely untapped potential.

Look at how much the magic box changed the metagame in ZvT! Look how much of an impact reapers have had on the same matchup, too. Back at release, mech was the answer to all Zerg's threats, and now most T go bio (and it's only 2 months later).

Think how much the game could change in 6 months. There's a lot of units in the Zerg arsenal that don't see much use. I rarely see hydralisks in ZvT and I rarely see banelings in ZvP. I doubt that's because those units are completely ineffective in those matchups -- instead, I bet it's because nobody has innovated a way (yet) to make them effective in the current metagame. That doesn't mean it'll never happen, though.
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 11 2010 19:04 GMT
#79
On September 10 2010 19:04 Gunman_csz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 18:41 Tak3r wrote:
your welcome - we will have a huge update once all SC2CL 1v1s are added, right now we are only 2 ppl in the staff and i have to work until 7pm each day so its hard to keep up right now


Are you including Korean tournaments aswell?(GSL, Playxp, Gomtv show matchs, GSL qualifiers?)

Can you breakdown the results by matchup stats aswell, I mean you guys have the data already.



ah didnt read the 2nd part sorry: as i said before we will break them up into the matchups - coderj ust has lotsof work to do right now :o
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