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Twinkle Toes
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Twinkle Toes
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On June 19 2019 22:39 Nemireck wrote: You'll find plenty of more examples in their other videos. This was just so recent and easy for me to reference I just quick-referenced it. Not really. I kinda follow BBB and this is a rare instance of Ronnie disagreeing with the refs. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
On June 19 2019 22:39 Twinkle Toes wrote: The CP3 saga needs to end. He fleeced the Rockets and are now holding them hostage. I was hearing a lot about this from multiple shows on Sirius NBA radio and tons of ex pro's were on Paul's side no one was on harden's. To boil down what they were all saying is it absolutely sucks to watch James harden dribble the ball up, dribble it for 22 seconds than get back or defense or have a couple seconds to throw up the ball. You need to "feel the orange" and be part of the offense to get into the game. And that Paul doesn't want more shots he wants to facilitate the offense. They also said they would all deal with it if they thought they could win the Championship but once they realized they couldn't they would want out. The anti Paul stuff was that he is considered a leader when he has been in these drama situations on multiple teams and that he shouldn't have that reputation. But there was so much more about how no one would want to play with Harden. | ||
Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
CP3's problem is that Harden's system kinda works, and they just need a good traditional-ish center (big but nimble, more Olajuwon than Shaq). I understand the optics of Harden lounging beyond the arc, hands on waist, with boredom on his face when CP3 is "leading" looks bad, but CP3 aint that guy anymore (maybe never was), and he deliberately kneecapped the Rockets with his stupid contract knowing that he is going downhill already. By the way, they are shopping CP3, only no team wants that cancer of a contract. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
I also think you misread what I wrote, they said Paul does not deserve the leader moniker that he got. But the bigger problem is that no one would want to play with Harden in that system. There was at least 8 ex NBA player that said the same thing yesterday and not a single one said they would want to play with him. You can think the system works, and it is clear it does to some degree, and Harden is a top 10 player in the league no doubt. But it makes sense to me why no one would want to play in that system and be expected to basically never touch the ball on offense and make up for Harden on Defense. | ||
Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
Ok I see and agree with your Paul leader thing. One more thing I might add, I forgot who said it, but Paul wants to be the Kobe-psychotic type and bark around teammates, but he neither has the talent nor the success to back it up at his advanced age now. About Harden, it was obvious from the ASW. But you see, they dont need another superstar, they just need perfect fits into Harden's game. It's not for everyone, but all his present teammates - PJ, EG, Capela, etc. all thrive around and love Harden. Add Ariza to the mix. If youre another superstar, youd hate Harden too because you'll never get to touch the ball. It doesnt mean that Harden is a bad player, it just means that he needs a different kind of team. I really think they are only 2 pieces away from a ring, a 5 who can defend that paint and run with them as well, and a traditional 1 who can share the offensive load with Harden when he is in rest mode. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
Do they love him and playing with him? I would suspect if everyone loved Harden and hated Paul it wouldn't be a big deal, I suspect some agree with Paul, maybe even most, and this is what is creating the issue. | ||
JimmiC
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27008482/sources-griz-trade-conley-jazz-3-picks Edit: my first way to early bold prediction is that the Jazz finish with the 1 seed in the west. | ||
Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
Tucker and Ariza have written about Harden. EG has publicly stated he is a lifer because of Harden. Happy for Mike Conley. He is one of the nicest and most hardworking guy out there. He deserves better opportunities to succeed. I hope this is it. | ||
zev318
Canada4304 Posts
whether or not cp3 was worth a max contract is a different issue, but the rockets offered that to get it done | ||
iX7
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Survey in spoilers, but post answers here as well. Answer these questions - 1. Age 2. how often do you play basketball per week/month? 3. position played 4. Your fitness level? 5. you play ball for? 6. How often do you watch nba? 7. How many times have you watched nba live in person? 8. how knowledgeable are you about basketball? 9. How do you analyze games/players? + Show Spoiler + Poll: Age 26-30 (3) 31-35 (3) <10 (0) 11-15 (0) 16-20 (0) 21-25 (0) 36-40 (0) 41-45 (0) 45-50 (0) >50 (0) 6 total votes Your vote: Age (Vote): <10 Poll: How often do you play ball 1-2/month (2) never (2) Everyday (0) 3-5/week (0) 1-2/week (0) 4 total votes Your vote: How often do you play ball (Vote): Everyday Poll: Position played 1 (1) 2 (1) 3 (0) 4 (0) 5 (0) 2 total votes Your vote: Position played Poll: Body-Fitness level Fat normal (1) fat chunky (1) Slim (0) Lean Normal (0) Lean athletic (0) Muscular (0) obese (0) 2 total votes Your vote: Body-Fitness level (Vote): Slim Poll: Play ball for for fun (2) semi/professional (0) competition (0) exercise (0) 2 total votes Your vote: Play ball for (Vote): semi/professional Poll: How often do you watch nba Everyday (1) Only my team's games (1) Whoever is on tv (1) Only youtube highlights (0) Never (0) 3 total votes Your vote: How often do you watch nba (Vote): Everyday Poll: 7. How many times have you watched nba live in person? 0 (3) 1-5 (0) 6-10 (0) 11-30 (0) >31 (0) 3 total votes Your vote: 7. How many times have you watched nba live in person? Poll: How knowledgeable are you just a good player (1) normal player for fun (1) Can be an college coach (0) Can be a highschool coach (0) can be leader in competitive games (0) can be leader in pickup games (0) 2 total votes Your vote: How knowledgeable are you (Vote): Can be an college coach Poll: How do you analyze games//players eye-test and observation (2) advanced stats (1) Individual performance (0) Vanilla stats (0) others (0) 3 total votes Your vote: How do you analyze games//players (Vote): Individual performance Me- 1. 25 2. How often - almost everyday 3. position - 1 or 2 4. body-fitness - lean athletic 5. Play ball for - competition-exercise 6. watch nba - almost everyday 7. watch live - about 30-40 each season 8. Knowledge - could be competitive coach 9. how to analyze - aggregate of many advanced stats and keen eye test with players info | ||
JimmiC
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Jerubaal
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JimmiC
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JimmiC
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zev318
Canada4304 Posts
On June 21 2019 07:19 JimmiC wrote: Min trades for 6th with their 11th and saric, thought is they want one of the top 3 pgs. if i saw this earlier i wouldve asked u think they've given up on jones? if thibs was still the coach i would say yes | ||
JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-raptors-president-masai-ujiri-produced-id-before-altercation-with/ Nice reporting and research by the Globe and Mail's Robyn Doolittle. She retweeted Greg Wiener's comment about the OPD and update the article linked above nine hours ago. | ||
virpi
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zev318
Canada4304 Posts
On June 22 2019 07:04 virpi wrote: Damn, NO could be a serious contender in a few years, if their players develop well and they get some team chemistry going. of course they will develop well, they're not on the lakers anymore. just look at randle and russell. | ||
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