I really hope RedBull pull their shit together and give Max a competitive reliable car. I dont wanna see Hamilton/Vettel staying for too long on top
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3954 Posts
I really hope RedBull pull their shit together and give Max a competitive reliable car. I dont wanna see Hamilton/Vettel staying for too long on top | ||
Lmui
Canada6155 Posts
Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/ As of now, 39 reddit silvers, 380 reddit golds, 7 reddit platinums on the "Kimi wins at COTA" post. Goddamn. | ||
LennX
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Aristodemus
England1969 Posts
On October 22 2018 06:40 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: My God Kimi, finally! Probably the best F1 personality today (I do love Rikkardo too though), great to see him snatch this one while still in red. I really hope RedBull pull their shit together and give Max a competitive reliable car. I dont wanna see Hamilton/Vettel staying for too long on top There is a very good chance of that I think and I hope so too. RB have produced the best chassis for about ten years now which is why Merc and Ferrari refuse to even discuss supplying them. This recent Honda upgrade has been huge, Horner said this weekend that it puts the engine half way between Renault and the benchmark Ferrari/Merc so in effect RB will have a 30-40bhp boost for next year. Since his early season troubles, Max has been outstanding too it has to be said, I actually had a few quid on him to win yesterday which would have been a very nice payout. As for Ferrari, they are saying they took off their upgrade from Sochi and all of a sudden they have the fastest car again! That's a pretty huge fuck up, I can't believe it took them so long to realise it was holding them back. Vettel has really fallen apart since his German GP too. | ||
xM(Z
Romania5257 Posts
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Aristodemus
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
However we all know that both red bulls will have retired before lap 20 tomorrow ^_^ | ||
xM(Z
Romania5257 Posts
the championship should remain uncertain!. | ||
LennX
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On October 28 2018 14:20 LennX wrote: For such a good driver as Riccardo, I cant believe that this is only his 3rd pole. The race will be exciting as long as RBR doesn't cause their engine(s) to blow up again. Keep in mind he moved to the Red Bull team proper when the new engine regulations started so he's never really had a car with an engine that could compete with Mercedes in qualifying. I would bet he would have way more poles and wins if Red Bull had a better engine these last few years. In 2014 he was the only driver that seemed to be able to compete with Mercedes, had a bad car (or more a really bad engine) in 2015, was up there in 2016 and last year, and did quite well this year when his car wasn't too busy breaking. I was gutted for him today when his engine blew again. He's had an engine or electronic failure almost every race since the summer break. I think they said 8 races so far he's DNF'd. He was on par with Hamilton and Vettel for the first part of the season. but then all the reliability issues started happening. His Monaco win was nuts given that his car was running without the majority of his hybrid system functioning. I hope this Renault move doesn't backfire. Ricciardo's easily one of my favourite drivers, along with Kimi and Ocon, on the grid right now. I'm still sad that Ocon likely isn't going to have a seat next year while Stroll takes one of the better midfield seats. | ||
KobraKay
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LennX
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ok Vettel got fucked for destroying the weighting scale. G_G As for the Hamilton incidents, it looks damning but its FIA after all. We shall see | ||
Aristodemus
England1969 Posts
First of all Sirotkin was on an out-lap and was trying to jump Hamilton, you can't compare it to Vettel clearly blocking Sainz on a hot lap. Kimi was very slightly disadvantaged and if they penalise Hamilton it is harsh. Vettel clearly disregarded procedure on a COMPLETELY RANDOM call to the weigh bridge, and broke it in the process. That's a slam dunk of a penalty. Edit: ....and Vettel gets away with it. | ||
LennX
4487 Posts
As for the random weighting incident, if it happened to Hamilton instead of Vettel, skysports (and English fans) will be calling it differently. On the offical steward note, there was an alleged breach of the procedure for the weighting incident.. The fine and reprimand was for another reason. The weighting incident should cause the rules to be cleared up by next season hopefully. edit - damn how do I get youtube links to work? | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3954 Posts
And Lewis had a flawless season. I just hope Redbull gives Max a competitive car or that Charles Leclerc skyrockets in Ferrari. | ||
KobraKay
Portugal3995 Posts
On November 11 2018 03:33 Aristodemus wrote: How anti-Lewis pro-Vettel can you be? First of all Sirotkin was on an out-lap and was trying to jump Hamilton, you can't compare it to Vettel clearly blocking Sainz on a hot lap. Kimi was very slightly disadvantaged and if they penalise Hamilton it is harsh. Vettel clearly disregarded procedure on a COMPLETELY RANDOM call to the weigh bridge, and broke it in the process. That's a slam dunk of a penalty. Edit: ....and Vettel gets away with it. Hamilton also blocked him at the first turn afterwards IIRC, the replay was also shown. I'm not pro Vettel, if I would be pro something it would be Verstappen, so stop with that nonesense to cover your own bias…..I already said in this thread that despite the rubish decisions and favouring, LH had to bridge the gap between the cars most of the season, and that he showed how talented he is. That is beyond the point that you seem to be missing. Btw Vettel did not disregard any procedure, "how anti-Vettel can you be"? He did follow all procedures, he just complained for those morons to speed up since rain was possibly coming and he still had to make a lap. Considering they are on the middle of a qualifying session, that seems to be a legit complain. The calls are random but the idiots managing the scale should be ready to act when the call happens, not be there sitting and looking at the cars when they come and then move slower than snails. And how is that a slam dunk of a penalty if breaking the scale is not in the rules?! Jesus...Hamilton fans. | ||
Aristodemus
England1969 Posts
What you saw on the replay was Hamilton overtaking Sirotkin which is allowed on your flying lap, it doesn't happen often because drivers leave a gap large enough before starting. This was what Hamilton was doing (creating a gap) when Sirotkin jumped him and what caused him to have his lap ruined. I said before I thought Raikkonen was slightly inconvenienced by Hamilton but he didn't need to lift and it certainly wasn't worthy of a penalty. During every quali drivers going slowly keep on the racing line and make the guys on hot laps go round them, right or wrong it's very common. Sainz in Austria came upon Vettel in the middle of the corner going very slowly, it forced him off track to avoid an incident, the key difference between this and Sirotkin is hot-lap and out-lap. You can't be guilty of blocking someone on an out lap. As for the weighbridge, I will just post the FIA statement and you can decide if he disregarded procedure that everyone has to follow. "The driver did not stop the engine at the time he was directed by the official at the scales, knocked over the cone placed to stop the driver from driving onto the scales, which he then did. "At the time he was being shown a sign to have his "brakes on" by an official who was standing in front of the car, and while not hitting the official did force him out of the way while driving onto the scales. He then turned off the engine. "Once the weight was taken, he then did not wait for the officials to push the car off the scales, and while the stewards accept that he may have misunderstood the indication from the official, he then re-fired the car and drove off the scales, which is not the procedure because it can damage the scales, which in this case he did. "While no-one was hurt by the scales being thrown out from behind the car, and while the stewards accept that the driver did not drive off the scales in a reckless manner, the procedure is established exactly to prevent damage to the scales or a potentially dangerous situation, which is exactly what was caused." Instead of a grid penalty as his punishment he received a reprimand and a £25k fine. I admit Seb was unlucky to get called in but that is the nature of having random calls. | ||
SSNYC77
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Vettel - now that shouldnt have been a penalty. Had the FIA staff left the blocking cone there, or not waved him off the blocks afterwards, all problems wouldve been solved. Vettel wouldve either wasted his time with his tantrum or wouldve driven off without permission and then he couldve been slammed with a proper penalty. But what happened was that FIA staff were persuaded by him to bend the rules and then complained. I don't think that should be allowed to happen. Officials are there to enforce the rules, and if they dont, it's not the drivers fault. | ||
Aristodemus
England1969 Posts
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