2018 NFL and CFB season - Page 193
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JimmiC
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Taf the Ghost
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On February 05 2019 08:24 JimmiC wrote: Micro dosing is one of the things people do now a days to keep their levels always up but not up so high you get flagged. Yup. The NBA Special, though the NBA only drug tests 3 times during the year. It's kind of noticeable guys start playing better about a month before the playoffs when all of the drug testing is done. Pat McAfee has a great line for good punts, "piss missiles". It came about because if you really rocket one, you're getting "randomly" PED screened. | ||
Shellshock
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cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
1. Julian Edelman HOF/NotHOF (with almost every ex athlete being a no). 2. Patriots won with lesser talent. Can we put some freaking respect on the name of Bill Belichick, the greatest coach in the game, and on the name of Tom Brady, the quarterback who always seems to be "doing more with less?" Maybe they actually kinda know what they are doing and have found something out about the NFL? Maybe that thing is intelligence. Maybe its footwork, because the Pats always seem to have superior footwork and balance on the lines. I don't know, what the overlooked thing is, I do know that if you have a fast team of people who are always out of position you never get told you aren't talented enough. If you got 5 Usain Bolts to play WR these people would slob your knob. So, MAYYYYYYYBE Edelman , who I don't think is a HOFer (yet) is actually a really good wide receiver. Maybe its just me seeing patterns that aren't there because I also hear a lot of basketball stuff and its the same, with bad players like Rudy Gay and Carmelo Anthony that all the ex-players (and journalist ballwashers thereof) say are way better than any sane person should think (also they are less impressed by better players like Dirk and Steph; and don't get me started on Jeremy Lin who would have been a top 10 pick if he was a black player from NC State). But I think this is a symptom of hiring a lot of ex-athletes, who are mostly HOFers, and are mostly athletic freaks that could have had an IQ of 70 and still made the league (and some of them even made the HOF as idiots). I don't know, but the major sports networks have a huge problem that they are dominated by athletes and losers who defer to athletes whenever some technical question comes up. "Oh, I defer to you Ray Lewis, but who is harder to cover, Wes Welker or Brandon Marshall?" Lewis, "Marshall, every time. He can jump he can run, he can man you up at the line." Meanwhile, Welker has like 500 more yards and 35 more first down catches. | ||
Bagration
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Slydie
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If you look at the Pats' O-Line, it is made up of 3rd-rounders or later, and the ENTIRE LINE is worth something like 8 million in current contracts. Now THAT is how you build a team. Their O-Line is home-grown and absolutely dominant, but obviously Scarnecchia has voodoo magic when it comes to development. Their top Olineman earner is Marcus Cannon who isnt even top 50 in OLine salaries across the league. Interresting! The Seahawks actually tried to do the same. They won the SB with the most expensive O-line in football, but not the best one, especially for pass protection. Unfortuntately, the low draftpick and D-line convert strategy of Tom Cable the following seasons made the line just as bad as it was cheap, and with a disastrous rungame last season, Cable was fired. | ||
Shellshock
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Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
On February 05 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote: Interresting! The Seahawks actually tried to do the same. They won the SB with the most expensive O-line in football, but not the best one, especially for pass protection. Unfortuntately, the low draftpick and D-line convert strategy of Tom Cable the following seasons made the line just as bad as it was cheap, and with a disastrous rungame last season, Cable was fired. Shaq Mason signed a $45 mil contract though so he will be near the top for guards going forward I believe | ||
Nakajin
Canada8764 Posts
On February 06 2019 02:06 Shellshock wrote: lol the Julian Edelman HoF thing is hilarious. Yeah he has an amazing playoff career but his career numbers/all pros/pro bowls (sorry but people take this into account) are nowhere near HoF Lol that's such bullshit, but honestly it's amazing that Brady is pretty much the only offensive HOF player on his almost 20 years long dynasty. (Moss would be the other but he wasn't with the Pats long) | ||
cLutZ
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Nakajin
Canada8764 Posts
On February 06 2019 14:48 cLutZ wrote: Meh. 1st thats just good teambuilding when you have an experienced QB who's more about accuracy than deep bombs. Plus its not true. Gronk is obviously a lock, he's the best TE ever by about the same margin that Jerry Rice is the best WR ever. Logan Mankins should be a lock. Welker might not make it but hes 4x all pro. I don't think Gronk is a lock, he had some amazing seasons but injury and a short career really hurt his overall stats, the same way Calvin Johnson might very well never be in the HOF despite having single season league reccord. Also Gonzales has virtually all the TE all time record so he's the "best ever", now you could say Gronk was/is better but usually HOF spot consider carrer stats first. But ya I guess there is a good chance Gronk is HOF material, the low number of great TE help him, but I don't think he's a lock. | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
Gonzales isn't even a tight end. He's a WR that played inside, like Jimmy Graham (and Gronk is even better than both at being a WR in important situations). Peak Gronk was an all-pro level o-lineman and all-pro level WR at the same time. If he isn't a lock, the HOF should have like 3 players in it. I'm not even a Pats fan, but Gronk is easily the best at his position, and probably the best skill position player ever. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 06 2019 17:16 cLutZ wrote: If Gronk is not a lock, the HOF voters should all be impeached, castrated (or spayed), waterboarded, then killed via forced alcohol poisoning with Hypnotic. Gonzales isn't even a tight end. He's a WR that played inside, like Jimmy Graham (and Gronk is even better than both at being a WR in important situations). Peak Gronk was an all-pro level o-lineman and all-pro level WR at the same time. If he isn't a lock, the HOF should have like 3 players in it. I'm not even a Pats fan, but Gronk is easily the best at his position, and probably the best skill position player ever. not a great safety though. Gronk was dominant but as others have stated he had a short career , lots of injuries and a few unsavory incidents. It's more about overall numbers and longevity like Gonzalez and Gates when he eventually retires. | ||
JimmiC
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Shellshock
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Sermokala
United States13540 Posts
On February 06 2019 17:22 KelsierSC wrote: not a great safety though. Gronk was dominant but as others have stated he had a short career , lots of injuries and a few unsavory incidents. It's more about overall numbers and longevity like Gonzalez and Gates when he eventually retires. I could see Gronk situationally having success at the Safety position, especially a weak side safety. He would have the record for INT's by a mile although he would allow a few TD's every now and then. Gronk broke the game by being a perpetual mismatch. Hes too big for a cornerback and safety too fast for a linebacker, this happens as well when he pass blocks by being larger then anyone whos fast enough to get around the o line and faster then anyone who could get through them. I think Edelman could get there. When you need him he is there for you. Often times brady just doesn't need him but you have to attribute multiple super bowls to his play. that's something a lot of larger stat WR's simple don't compare to. Then again you have the jerry rice issue. I think Jerry Rice is good but his stats are inane because he had Goat conversation QB's back to back to throw to him. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:35 Sermokala wrote: I could see Gronk situationally having success at the Safety position, especially a weak side safety. He would have the record for INT's by a mile although he would allow a few TD's every now and then. Gronk broke the game by being a perpetual mismatch. Hes too big for a cornerback and safety too fast for a linebacker, this happens as well when he pass blocks by being larger then anyone whos fast enough to get around the o line and faster then anyone who could get through them. I think Edelman could get there. When you need him he is there for you. Often times brady just doesn't need him but you have to attribute multiple super bowls to his play. that's something a lot of larger stat WR's simple don't compare to. Then again you have the jerry rice issue. I think Jerry Rice is good but his stats are inane because he had Goat conversation QB's back to back to throw to him. Think again | ||
Dknight
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JimmiC
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 07 2019 09:48 Dknight wrote: That one play doesn't discredit his career nor Sermokala's comment, particularly when this play occurs towards the end of it when considering his health issues. He never should have been in that play to begin with. Haters gonna hate. Lol when did I say that play discredited his career. It was a funny play and I was making a joke. I think Gronk is a great player. If you and Sermo think he is good enough to also play safety in the NFL then that kind of fan support and passion is a beautiful thing. | ||
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