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[GSL] GSL vs. The World - Team Match & Finals

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 04 2018 21:21 GMT
#1

GSL vs. The World


Saturday, Aug 04 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)2018 GSL vs. the World

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Format

  • Single Elimination Bracket:
  • All matches are Bo5.
  • Finals are Bo7.

Map Pool



Matches


Grand Final
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(P)Stats vs (Z)Serral


(T)Team Maru vs (Z)Team Serral



Results


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 04 2018 21:21 GMT
#2
Poll: GSL vs. The World Champion

Serral (64)
 
62%

Stats (40)
 
38%

104 total votes

Your vote: GSL vs. The World Champion

(Vote): Stats
(Vote): Serral

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-04 21:56:06
August 04 2018 21:45 GMT
#3
I'm reading that poll not as '(GSL vs. The World) Champion', but as '(GSL) vs (The World Champion)'.

One thing that feels really special about Serral is how well-rounded he is. Almost every player is characterized by something--Stats is better at defense than offense, sOs is better at cleverness than mechanics, Zest is better at micro than macro, TY is better in the late game than the early and mid game, and so on. Even players that really are solid at every aspect of the game like Dark have tendencies we can latch upon--Dark likes aggression more than defense, roaches more than hydras etc.

But with Serral it really feels that he's equally good at everything, equally favouring offense and defense, cheese and macro, early game and late game, and he doesn't even favour any particular composition. There are a few small differences like he's a bit more mechanical than clever, but even then he has smart builds. He's better at ZvP than ZvT, but how big the discrepancy is isn't obvious. I can't recall the last player we've had whose skill set has been so evenly distributed across the different aspects of the game.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8320 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-04 21:54:24
August 04 2018 21:53 GMT
#4
I'm also interested in the Teams Match, two questions for you all there:

Poll: Who Will Win?

Team Serral (19)
 
56%

Team Maru (15)
 
44%

34 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?

(Vote): Team Maru
(Vote): Team Serral



Poll: Teams Match Prediction

Team Maru 9-0 (11)
 
27%

Team Serral 5-4 (8)
 
20%

Team Serral 6-3 (6)
 
15%

Team Maru 6-3 (6)
 
15%

Team Serral 9-0 (4)
 
10%

Team Maru 5-4 (3)
 
7%

Team Maru 7-2 (2)
 
5%

Team Serral 7-2 (1)
 
2%

Team Serral 8-1 (0)
 
0%

Team Maru 8-1 (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Teams Match Prediction

(Vote): Team Serral 5-4
(Vote): Team Serral 6-3
(Vote): Team Serral 7-2
(Vote): Team Serral 8-1
(Vote): Team Serral 9-0
(Vote): Team Maru 5-4
(Vote): Team Maru 6-3
(Vote): Team Maru 7-2
(Vote): Team Maru 8-1
(Vote): Team Maru 9-0



Here's the lineups: (Wiki)2018 GSL vs. the World/Teams

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JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
August 04 2018 22:07 GMT
#5
Looking at Serral from WCS, I thought he was a defensive and reactionary player. Just with that Information, I would have given the edge to Stats.

But this tournament, Serral has shown that he can be very aggressive and close games when he wants. I would give him the edge considering the state of ZvP.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 04 2018 22:20 GMT
#6
If Serral could pull this one off, it'd be the 3rd Premier tournament in Korea won by foreigners in the past 20 months. That's pretty incredible, considering where the gap used to be

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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
August 04 2018 22:57 GMT
#7
Anyone knows how teams selection went?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 04 2018 23:29 GMT
#8
Hmm, Serral is legit in ZvP, but Stat's ability to ruin the hype is unparalleled

(P)Stats 4-2 (Z)Serral

Love that we're opening with Has vs Zest xD for the team match. Given the weird format I could see it going either way. Serral's team appears to be stronger overall so I guess I'll go with them.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 05 2018 00:04 GMT
#9
On August 05 2018 07:07 JabuSeika wrote:
Looking at Serral from WCS, I thought he was a defensive and reactionary player. Just with that Information, I would have given the edge to Stats.

But this tournament, Serral has shown that he can be very aggressive and close games when he wants. I would give him the edge considering the state of ZvP.

Yeah, he has a nice killer instinct too. I think he's maybe the best ZvP player in the world currently, and none of the top Koreans seem to have figured out the other side of the matchup right now, so I kind of think he'll win 4-2/4-1.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 05 2018 00:05 GMT
#10
Let's go Stats.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 05 2018 00:18 GMT
#11
On August 05 2018 07:57 stardog wrote:
Anyone knows how teams selection went?

Maru picked 3 Koreans and 4 foreigners and Serral 3 foreigners and 4 Koreans alternately.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 01:11:36
August 05 2018 01:10 GMT
#12
On August 05 2018 09:04 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2018 07:07 JabuSeika wrote:
Looking at Serral from WCS, I thought he was a defensive and reactionary player. Just with that Information, I would have given the edge to Stats.

But this tournament, Serral has shown that he can be very aggressive and close games when he wants. I would give him the edge considering the state of ZvP.

Yeah, he has a nice killer instinct too. I think he's maybe the best ZvP player in the world currently, and none of the top Koreans seem to have figured out the other side of the matchup right now, so I kind of think he'll win 4-2/4-1.

I agree, Serral's ZvP is a thrill to watch. I always see Polt playing when I watch, where he always has a secondary army (i.e. strong enough to beat warpins, probably equivalent to a 3-4 medivac's worth of units army). But with the unique tools of the matchup, notably lurkers in the midgame and brood lords in the late game, Serral is able to elevate that sort of counterattacking, multipronged aggression to the next level.

I feel like the games where Koreans copy this style and fail (outside of early game cheese) it's when the protoss is able to squeeze out 5-6 carriers or tempest tech before the BL push hits (I recall a few of Dear's and Stats' games). I haven't been watching enough late game Serral ZvP to compare his hive timing to these few games, but I imagine heavier lair play would punish over-eager stargate tech, and I seem to recall Serral's impeccable lair tech play, so it seems like he has this failure point covered.

I think this should be a really interesting match. Serral has so much momentum and is currently riding the crest of his own innovations, but Stats' adaptability and solidity cannot be underestimated. I always remember the cross finals immediately after Dark's first SSL win, the one where he pulled out baneling drops, and seeing Stats having all sorts of micro-adjustments to his play e.g. leaving 3 stalkers at every base, slightly different simcity/compositions, and he avenged his SSL loss. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this as well, but it would definitely require quite a lot of preparation that may be difficult in a weekend tournament like this...
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
August 05 2018 01:26 GMT
#13
What was with Inno saying he heard Serral was 7200 MMR on Korea anyway? Was that a mistranslation, or was it just a "omg, i hear he's such a monster" joke? I checked sc2unmasked and saw nobody at that MMR in GM or Masters, and no non-Dark/soO/Rogue anonymous zergs that could even be close.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 05 2018 01:34 GMT
#14
On August 05 2018 10:26 frazzle wrote:
What was with Inno saying he heard Serral was 7200 MMR on Korea anyway? Was that a mistranslation, or was it just a "omg, i hear he's such a monster" joke? I checked sc2unmasked and saw nobody at that MMR in GM or Masters, and no non-Dark/soO/Rogue anonymous zergs that could even be close.

Probably just a mistranslation or Inno misspoke. He has had 7200 MMR on EU.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 01:37:31
August 05 2018 01:35 GMT
#15
On August 05 2018 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm reading that poll not as '(GSL vs. The World) Champion', but as '(GSL) vs (The World Champion)'.

One thing that feels really special about Serral is how well-rounded he is. Almost every player is characterized by something--Stats is better at defense than offense, sOs is better at cleverness than mechanics, Zest is better at micro than macro, TY is better in the late game than the early and mid game, and so on. Even players that really are solid at every aspect of the game like Dark have tendencies we can latch upon--Dark likes aggression more than defense, roaches more than hydras etc.

But with Serral it really feels that he's equally good at everything, equally favouring offense and defense, cheese and macro, early game and late game, and he doesn't even favour any particular composition. There are a few small differences like he's a bit more mechanical than clever, but even then he has smart builds. He's better at ZvP than ZvT, but how big the discrepancy is isn't obvious. I can't recall the last player we've had whose skill set has been so evenly distributed across the different aspects of the game.

We were robbed of a Maru vs Serral final.

I feel the same way about Maru... he can cheese, he can macro, he can play mindgames and do trickery, can do insane multipronged harass or setup a deathpush at your front door.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 05 2018 01:46 GMT
#16
Maru and Serral will probably end up playing in the teammatch at least
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AgonySC
Profile Joined March 2018
7 Posts
August 05 2018 03:07 GMT
#17
On August 05 2018 07:20 Bagration wrote:
If Serral could pull this one off, it'd be the 3rd Premier tournament in Korea won by foreigners in the past 20 months. That's pretty incredible, considering where the gap used to be



How is a tournament that awards 0 WCS points "premier" lol
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 03:08:53
August 05 2018 03:07 GMT
#18
Did they confirm that all 8 matches would be played in the Team match?
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
August 05 2018 03:10 GMT
#19
On August 05 2018 12:07 AgonySC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2018 07:20 Bagration wrote:
If Serral could pull this one off, it'd be the 3rd Premier tournament in Korea won by foreigners in the past 20 months. That's pretty incredible, considering where the gap used to be



How is a tournament that awards 0 WCS points "premier" lol


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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1207 Posts
August 05 2018 03:11 GMT
#20
All 8 matches will be played. The 9th match is in case of a 4-4 tie.
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