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* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before. ♠ = joker. Player that is not part of the team's regular roster. Only one joker can be chosen per season who is eligible to play the entire duration of the season.
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Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Team Liquid (19) 86% mousesports (3) 14% 22 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): mousesports (Vote): Team Liquid
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?Team Liquid (14) 52% mousesports (13) 48% 27 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): mousesports (Vote): Team Liquid
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It'd be cool to see if Mouz can grab the upset win. Mana looked pretty good today, but the rest of Mouz fell short.
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Will be tough match for Manasports.
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I hope we see a strong ret/TLO performance today.
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1:0 for Mouz, since Liquid was late. Now Snute vs. Mana.
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Oh shit, drama going strong. Take vs Liquid, round 1. Fight!
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Ah I'm glad that TakeTV is sticking to the rules. Pretty stupid to not show up in time tbh.
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Is it just me or have there been a kind of strange number of free wins awarded this season? I mean I get ATC enforcing their rules, but you'd think the teams would realize they aren't messing around. o_O
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On October 31 2013 23:58 Niko_Thien wrote: Ah I'm glad that TakeTV is sticking to the rules. Pretty stupid to not show up in time tbh. Are the rules available to see?
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Swarm hosts. Another 3 hr Mana PvZ on Akilon?
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Mana on Akilon wastes against incoming swarmhosts.
Shit is about to get real.
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On October 31 2013 23:59 Gowerly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 23:58 Niko_Thien wrote: Ah I'm glad that TakeTV is sticking to the rules. Pretty stupid to not show up in time tbh. Are the rules available to see?
You can read the rules here
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Creep officially in Mana's third.
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Snute's SH's are rallied past the army! They aren't attacking
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This is like watching two one-legged men play tag.
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Mana has no income, but floats 1k 2k. Wut?
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Playing against waves of locusts is probably very annoying >.<
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Do we know who didn't show up for map 1?
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omfg is pengwiing casting or what the hell his name is?`
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On November 01 2013 00:12 Vega62a wrote: Do we know who didn't show up for map 1? TL did not send a player in time. No one specifically was late.
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Wow That game was a lot of fun for Mana I am sure
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Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation.
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On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. Wow that does seem overly harsh . Hopefully doesn't effect the overall outcome.
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On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation. really harsh but you are not the first team to be hit by this rule. They really went from an extreme to an other :/
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On November 01 2013 00:23 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. Wow that does seem overly harsh . Hopefully doesn't effect the overall outcome. So how many minutes is not overly harsh? 5? 8? 12? 15? 99? There needs to a be border to have a working rule. I doubt mouse can win this anyways, but even if, hopefully not to a defwin.
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No baneling speed though.
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On November 01 2013 00:25 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation. really harsh but you are not the first team to be hit by this rule. They really went from an extreme to an other :/ Yeah last season they had a lot of issues with scheduling and teams not showing up in time. I guess, thats whey they are this strict this time. Thanks for clarification to Nazgul and gl
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On November 01 2013 00:26 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:23 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. Wow that does seem overly harsh . Hopefully doesn't effect the overall outcome. So how many minutes is not overly harsh? 5? 8? 12? 15? 99? There needs to a be border to have a working rule. I doubt mouse can win this anyways, but even if, hopefully not to a defwin. Yeah I don't really know. But I feel that ATC admins should reach out to the players at 15:25 in this scenario, and the penalty could be enforced if they didn't respond. Nazgul said they reached out to the admins two minutes late, and I think the admins should have checked at the specified time.
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On November 01 2013 00:29 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:26 grs wrote:On November 01 2013 00:23 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. Wow that does seem overly harsh . Hopefully doesn't effect the overall outcome. So how many minutes is not overly harsh? 5? 8? 12? 15? 99? There needs to a be border to have a working rule. I doubt mouse can win this anyways, but even if, hopefully not to a defwin. Yeah I don't really know. But I feel that ATC admins should reach out to the players at 15:25 in this scenario, and the penalty could be enforced if they didn't respond. Nazgul said they reached out to the admins two minutes late, and I think the admins should have checked at the specified time. They reached out to the teammanager but he wasn't available, according to take.
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On November 01 2013 00:30 Niko_Thien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:29 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 01 2013 00:26 grs wrote:On November 01 2013 00:23 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. Wow that does seem overly harsh . Hopefully doesn't effect the overall outcome. So how many minutes is not overly harsh? 5? 8? 12? 15? 99? There needs to a be border to have a working rule. I doubt mouse can win this anyways, but even if, hopefully not to a defwin. Yeah I don't really know. But I feel that ATC admins should reach out to the players at 15:25 in this scenario, and the penalty could be enforced if they didn't respond. Nazgul said they reached out to the admins two minutes late, and I think the admins should have checked at the specified time. They reached out to the teammanager but he wasn't available, according to take. Oh well then whooops what do I know.
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Wow, strong game by Heromarine!
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On November 01 2013 00:33 grs wrote: Wow, strong game by Heromarine! Yeah his TvZ is pretty good.
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Yeah 2 mins may be a bit much. I think 5 minutes would be appropriate.
Heromarine has pretty huge potential. Especially if he goes to Korea after he finishes school.
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You break the rules you get the punishment. I don't see problem here.
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On November 01 2013 00:37 Weavel wrote: You break the rules you get the punishment. I don't see problem here.
Same, Nazgul said he would use it as motivation.. probably the reason they were so strict. Future check-ins will be more clear on this; check in late; get the punishment.
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Nazgul has is professional and has professional behaviour. Rules are rules, yeah they're strict but damn, can't overcome :\
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The reason for the rule is that the show is scheduled for 3:30pm and in order to start the show without delay, you need at least 5 minutes to set up the lobby with all casters and players. (with b.net bugs it can still last longer than 5 minutes so that time is already quite short) So the deadline for player announcements is at least 5 minutes before. Otherwise you cant start on time and 3000+ viewer waste their time watching an empty couch not knowing whats going on. This way you can already say whats the problem as soon as the show starts. I think it is very reasonable and only 5 minutes before is as short as it can be.
In the end its a German tournament and you know how we feel about punctuality
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You say that, but I'm pretty confident that some ATC matches have been delayed due to production problems. Seems pretty inconsistent. "If you're late you lose matches but please wait if someone goes wrong our end". Should really let the matches continue and cast from replays if something like that happens. Pretty unprofessional to have those double standards otherwise.
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Cool unit comp by Hero Marine
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What a messy game. I can dig the thors, but more medvac micro would be nice.
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On November 01 2013 00:52 Gowerly wrote: You say that, but I'm pretty confident that some ATC matches have been delayed due to production problems. Seems pretty inconsistent. "If you're late you lose matches but please wait if someone goes wrong our end". Should really let the matches continue and cast from replays if something like that happens. Pretty unprofessional to have those double standards otherwise.
Could you elaborate what you mean with "production problems"? ATC is almost the only thing i watch nowadays starcraftwise and i dont understand what you mean. Lobby hosting problems?
Edit:btw gogo heromarine!!
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Holy shit, great to see Heromarine winning. Cannot watch without "hearing" his commentary.
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Well that was a great game, Heromarines TvZ is really enjoyable to watch.
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take with so much passion its awesome!
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On November 01 2013 00:52 Gowerly wrote: You say that, but I'm pretty confident that some ATC matches have been delayed due to production problems. Seems pretty inconsistent. "If you're late you lose matches but please wait if someone goes wrong our end". Should really let the matches continue and cast from replays if something like that happens. Pretty unprofessional to have those double standards otherwise.
No, we should aim to raise expectations, instead of lowering them. Just because someone else is late does not give everyone else an excuse to lower their professionalism.
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wohoo, mma! edit. wohoo take!
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Interesting to see how European and Korean TvT styles differ.
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What is Taeja doing.... just decides not to pre siege his tanks?
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Time to build a lot of turrets now for Heromarine.
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Taeja is scary good at TvT just saying.
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Okay I guess Taeja just decided to win. Interesting.
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On November 01 2013 01:14 Darkhoarse wrote: What is Taeja doing.... just decides not to pre siege his tanks? taeja lured him just to crush no but seriously how the hell did he brake it damnn
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On November 01 2013 01:17 Weavel wrote: Holy shit that MMA micro
yeah, it's hard to keep track when both Mouz vs Liquid and WW vs Acer are going on simultaneously
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On November 01 2013 00:25 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation. really harsh but you are not the first team to be hit by this rule. They really went from an extreme to an other :/
Its probably BECAUSE of that other extreme that they're now at this one.
Anyway its rules harsh but the rules are the rules I guess; Nazgul is taking it very gracefully.
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Once you don't have a fortified position Marauders just rip Siege Tanks apart.
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On November 01 2013 01:20 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 00:25 Yhamm wrote:On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation. really harsh but you are not the first team to be hit by this rule. They really went from an extreme to an other :/ Its probably BECAUSE of that other extreme that they're now at this one. Anyway its rules harsh but the rules are the rules I guess; Nazgul is taking it very gracefully.
He doesn't have much of a choice. The team was late, and while if they were to appeal, it would basically be arguing over minutes and minute details. It's a PR risk that could be damaging to both Liquid and ATC, and it is simply not worth it.
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On November 01 2013 01:22 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:20 -Celestial- wrote:On November 01 2013 00:25 Yhamm wrote:On November 01 2013 00:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Our team was on Skype ready to play for a long time before 15:25. It is just that we reached out to ATC admins at 15:27 instead of 15:25. It is unquestionably our mistake to be two minutes later than what is in the rules. Our apologies for that. I do find this ruling harsher than it needs to be, but it is what it is. We'll use it as motivation. really harsh but you are not the first team to be hit by this rule. They really went from an extreme to an other :/ Its probably BECAUSE of that other extreme that they're now at this one. Anyway its rules harsh but the rules are the rules I guess; Nazgul is taking it very gracefully. He doesn't have much of a choice. The team was late, and while if they were to appeal, it would basically be arguing over minutes and minute details. It's a PR risk that could be damaging to both Liquid and ATC, and it is simply not worth it.
Yeah thats what he meant probably with 'taking it gracefully'.
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what happens if both teams came later than 15:25? Both forfeit one map and it begins with 1-1?! :D
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protoss imba! first daisy now hasuobs!
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Hasuobs going for the early aggression. So meta
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TLO as the ace? they don't even revive TaeJa?
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On November 01 2013 01:30 Yhamm wrote: TLO as the ace? they don't even revive TaeJa? Or use HerO at all?
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lmao HeroMarine is really living up to his name Impressive by Mouz so far. Let see if TLO can stop them
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Hmm, questionable ace choice by Liquid there. Really surprised they didn't use one of the Korean big guns
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ATC Grand Finals at HSC8?
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On November 01 2013 01:34 Dingodile wrote: ATC Grand Finals at HSC8? no, the season will not be finished at this time
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Well we'll see what TLO can do. Don't really like the choice, but we don't know the circumstances.
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On November 01 2013 01:31 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:30 Yhamm wrote: TLO as the ace? they don't even revive TaeJa? Or use HerO at all?
I think HerO's in China for SWL or something like that?
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Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace.
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On November 01 2013 01:37 dangthatsright wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:31 Darkhoarse wrote:On November 01 2013 01:30 Yhamm wrote: TLO as the ace? they don't even revive TaeJa? Or use HerO at all? I think HerO's in China for SWL or something like that? Oh is he? Hoping he manages to beat PartinG there
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On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat?
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take is a take on crack today :D
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one game lining perfectly up into another game
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On November 01 2013 01:40 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat?
defeated, taken off his throne.
e: I think it was a jousting term, so it be be knocked from the saddle.
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On November 01 2013 01:40 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat? Unseated from his throne of teamleague domination.
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On November 01 2013 01:40 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat?
A Need for Seat joke has to be made here
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On November 01 2013 01:42 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:40 grs wrote:On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat? Unseated from his throne of teamleague domination.
On November 01 2013 01:41 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:40 grs wrote:On November 01 2013 01:38 Yhamm wrote:Team Liquid Pro @TeamLiquidPro 2m
Sadly @LiquidTaeJa is unseated. That means @LiquidTLO is our ace. What does unseated mean in that context? Without a seat? defeated, taken off his throne. e: I think it was a jousting term, so it be be knocked from the saddle. Thanks. Learning something everyday
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Well good start for TLO. Still the Duran brothers available though.
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On November 01 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:no, the season will not be finished at this time Every team still need to play 1-3 matchdays and I guess they can do it within next 3 weeks.
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On November 01 2013 01:49 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:On November 01 2013 01:34 Dingodile wrote: ATC Grand Finals at HSC8? no, the season will not be finished at this time Every team still need to play 1-3 matchdays and I guess they can do it within next 3 weeks. HSC is in 2 weeks and many teams need to play 4 matches with none scheduled so far
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sick positions of lucifrons buildings.
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Oops missed the game. Well sucks for Liquid I guess . One free point/HerO not available. Still wp by Mouz
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On November 01 2013 01:49 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:On November 01 2013 01:34 Dingodile wrote: ATC Grand Finals at HSC8? no, the season will not be finished at this time Every team still need to play 1-3 matchdays and I guess they can do it within next 3 weeks.
ATC finals are already confirmed to be in December.
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grats Mouz. too bad Liquid had to forfeit a map. nice of Hasuobs to take out TaeJa
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Russian Federation134 Posts
Congratulations to Mouz! Nice games today
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