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[Day 4] HomeStory Cup VI - Page 4

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Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
December 22 2012 10:24 GMT
#61
On December 22 2012 17:57 Psyclon wrote:
5 more hours...i have no idea what i'm going to do until then


GSL.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 12:07:45
December 22 2012 10:28 GMT
#62
On December 22 2012 19:24 Ana_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 17:57 Psyclon wrote:
5 more hours...i have no idea what i'm going to do until then


GSL.

4 more immortal allin in PvZ, besides parting succeeds with different builds
Edit: ok its "besides parting succeeeds with different builds" for Game #1
Game 2: Immortal allin, never failed in the last few games i saw from parting. It was scouted like 5 minutes before it actually started. Questions to the zerg (honest one): how long does it take to get enough infestors or hydras to stop it, cause obviously roaches don't stop it (or maybe get burrow). What is in theory the best and easiest way to deal with it if you scout it early?

Edit 3:
Finally the answer: all you have to do is play less greedy and kill with infestors. Answer was that simple
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 22 2012 10:34 GMT
#63
Why is Symbol so far down in the poll?

He lost a match, but IMO he is the best Korean here (and thus best player).
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
December 22 2012 10:38 GMT
#64
On December 22 2012 19:34 00Visor wrote:
Why is Symbol so far down in the poll?



because polls are stupid?
brill
Profile Joined December 2012
Ghana12 Posts
December 22 2012 10:39 GMT
#65
On December 22 2012 19:34 00Visor wrote:
Why is Symbol so far down in the poll?

He lost a match, but IMO he is the best Korean here (and thus best player).


i think it's a tie between him and MKP. none of these two are immortal to foreigners though.

considering that mkp seems to struggle in tvz lately and the quality of opponents symbol is way more likely to end up in the finals though
endure. in enduring, grow strong.
Ayoeme
Profile Joined November 2011
Latvia59 Posts
December 22 2012 10:54 GMT
#66
i think symbol, marineking, stephano, snute would have similar chances of winning. But brackets have put mkp and stephano in the first round, as well as stephano sometimes doesn't have the brightest of ZvZs, percentage-wise I'd say:

Symbol 30%
Snute 28%
MKP 22%
Stephano 20%
For some things, reason is not necessary.
Laxer
Profile Joined September 2011
Singapore80 Posts
December 22 2012 11:08 GMT
#67
I actually hope Grubby wins, After IEM Singapore, and then he played okay yesterday, Hope he wins. =\.
MMA | Symbol . Slayers Forever!
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 11:12:56
December 22 2012 11:12 GMT
#68
I am going to miss this Gogo Grubster ! Gogo STEPANO ! and gogo TLO !
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
December 22 2012 11:15 GMT
#69
This is like the perfect mixture of koreans and foreigners. I want all events in 2013 to have a similar ratio, then i might start be watching events til the end again.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
December 22 2012 11:24 GMT
#70
Grubby vs XlorD final would be cool, for old times sake .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
December 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#71
I don't get your statistical site lol. How is it that XlorD has such a high vT rating despite him vanishing from the EU scenes for months? Old games or something?
WriterMaru
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
December 22 2012 11:37 GMT
#72
I think Xlord in finals is a quite realistic scenario.
He has to face probably the weakest player who is also not really good in TvZ and after that he has a guaranteed ZvZ against a player who is not good at it anyway. Xlord himself showed great performance against T and Z this torunament so I really expect him to make the finals.

For the upper part of the bracket everything is quite open but i would not mind a Grubby-Stephano semifinals. Have not seen this match in a while and at least 1 Protoss in semis (or even winning the tournament) would be cool!
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
December 22 2012 11:38 GMT
#73
Go Go Snute! Rooting or you!
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
December 22 2012 11:56 GMT
#74
Gogogo MKP to take it all!!
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
Scholes
Profile Joined December 2012
Venezuela312 Posts
December 22 2012 11:57 GMT
#75
So which zerg is gonna win hsc?
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
December 22 2012 12:05 GMT
#76
On December 22 2012 20:57 Scholes wrote:
So which zerg is gonna win hsc?


Probably Symbol :/
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
December 22 2012 12:06 GMT
#77
On December 22 2012 20:57 Scholes wrote:
So which zerg is gonna win hsc?

if MC and MKP will be casting, it will be a jerk with jerklings and looches, winfestors, imba overlordmaphack and most interestingly no matter if its a TvZ finale, a PvZ or a ZvZ, Terran will win it, although the win will count for the Zerg
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 12:23:10
December 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#78
HomeStory Cup VI - Day 4: Todays Poll

For all the updates, make sure to follow:
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Wanna see some photos from day 1, 2 and 3?

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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 12:23:24
December 22 2012 12:23 GMT
#79
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 22 2012 17:36 TheBB wrote:
Well, here are my numbers, for what they are worth. Symbol is a big favourite, after him there is basically Snute, Stephano and Xlord (!).

Yeah, take them with a grain of salt as usual, but I did get all advancees right yesterday, as well as 7 and 6/8 from days 2 and 1 respectively. So I guess it's not total BS.

Note: Third place match ignored.

HSC Bracket

Most likely winners:
      Symbol: 52.68%
      Snute: 17.67%
      Stephano: 11.21%
      XlorD: 10.73%
      TLO: 3.27%
      Grubby: 3.27%
      MarineKing: 0.87%
      BratOK: 0.29%

Life expectancy:
      Symbol: 2.04 rounds (lose in the finals)
      Stephano: 1.36 rounds (lose in the semifinals)
      Snute: 1.27 rounds (lose in the semifinals)
      XlorD: 1.11 rounds (lose in the semifinals)
      Grubby: 0.46 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      TLO: 0.27 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      BratOK: 0.24 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      MarineKing: 0.24 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)

Detailed placement probabilities

Top 8 Top 4 Top 2 Win
Snute: 33.96% 22.67% 25.70% 17.67%
Grubby: 66.04% 24.77% 5.92% 3.27%
MarineKing: 83.38% 10.30% 5.44% 0.87%
Stephano: 16.62% 42.26% 29.91% 11.21%
XlorD: 21.98% 55.47% 11.82% 10.73%
BratOK: 78.02% 19.96% 1.72% 0.29%
TLO: 83.78% 8.25% 4.69% 3.27%
Symbol: 16.22% 16.32% 14.79% 52.68%

Most likely to be eliminated by...

Snute: Grubby (33.96%) Symbol (20.86%) Stephano (19.58%)
Grubby: Snute (66.04%) Stephano (21.54%) Symbol ( 4.57%)
MarineKing: Stephano (83.38%) Snute ( 7.88%) Symbol ( 3.96%)
Stephano: Snute (35.49%) Symbol (23.29%) MarineKing (16.62%)
XlorD: Symbol (50.37%) BratOK (21.98%) Snute ( 6.06%)
BratOK: XlorD (78.02%) Symbol (17.09%) TLO ( 2.87%)
TLO: Symbol (83.78%) XlorD ( 7.55%) Snute ( 2.50%)
Symbol: TLO (16.22%) XlorD (15.00%) Snute ( 8.40%)


+ Show Spoiler [Snute vs. Grubby] +
Snute wins (66.04%):
      3-0: 20.26%
      3-1: 25.08%
      3-2: 20.70%

Grubby wins (33.96%):
      3-0: 7.03%
      3-1: 12.38%
      3-2: 14.55%

Most likely winner: Snute (66.04%)
Median outcome: Snute 3-2 Grubby

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+ Show Spoiler [MarineKing vs. Stephano] +
MarineKing wins (16.62%):
      3-0: 2.76%
      3-1: 5.78%
      3-2: 8.07%

Stephano wins (83.38%):
      3-0: 33.96%
      3-1: 30.80%
      3-2: 18.62%

Most likely winner: Stephano (83.38%)
Median outcome: MarineKing 1-3 Stephano

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [XlorD vs. BratOK] +
XlorD wins (78.02%):
      3-0: 28.76%
      3-1: 29.33%
      3-2: 19.94%

BratOK wins (21.98%):
      3-0: 3.93%
      3-1: 7.78%
      3-2: 10.27%

Most likely winner: XlorD (78.02%)
Median outcome: XlorD 3-1 BratOK

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [TLO vs. Symbol] +
TLO wins (16.22%):
      3-0: 2.68%
      3-1: 5.64%
      3-2: 7.90%

Symbol wins (83.78%):
      3-0: 34.40%
      3-1: 30.89%
      3-2: 18.49%

Most likely winner: Symbol (83.78%)
Median outcome: TLO 1-3 Symbol

[image loading]


details, data source, code



Fortune favours the bold. I'll make those 16,22% worth their value :D

keep up the good work btw, I actually love your work cause it's like an actual meaning ladder/ranking you can climb as a progamer. I love it when you can keep track of your progress ^_^
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
December 22 2012 12:49 GMT
#80
Grubby or TLO, I believe!
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