[IEM] Final & 3rd Place Match - Page 104
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Garnet
Vietnam9001 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On March 06 2011 01:37 hmunkey wrote: Once again, this "my game is better than your game" elitism is stupid and unnecessary. I'm fairly sure neither of us could play at the pro level in any game, even in aim-assisted CoD. And correct me if I'm wrong, but if everyone competes against eachother and they all have aim-assist on console, it's not really handicapping anyone right? So it's still a test of skill. As someone who was a pro at an FPS, I can assure you, aim-assist is so much easier. Having quality aim consistently is such a huge factor. In consoles, that requirement is not there as much, and that aspect of the game isn't stressful. In this way, they focus on other aspects of the game like movement, strategy, anticipation, etc. In most top PC FPS, having ridiculous aim is required throughout the entire time, but you still have to outplay your opponent. Those 2 things in combination is what makes the PC games harder and deeper than aim-assisted console games. | ||
Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
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derpzzz
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namedplayer
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blooddrunKK
Mexico222 Posts
http://www.own3d.tv/video/82417/IEM_WC_SC2___GRAND_FINAL_-_Moon_vs_Ace | ||
Milvus
Switzerland400 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On March 06 2011 02:44 namedplayer wrote: Code S > Code A > Code B = EU top tiers > Kr ladder 3500+ > US top tiers. Logic based on IEM result. Code S > Code A > KR Ladder 3500 > US TOP tiers & EU top tiers moonglade is 3500 ladder. And anyone equal to him would rape anyone top tier US and EU on a regular bo5 basis. Top tier US and EU outside of korea (excluding huk glade jinro haypro etc) wuld be rank 250-500 on korean ladder. And would only split top 200 with a 50% ratio. | ||
cobrastyle
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
On March 06 2011 02:47 blooddrunKK wrote: Here is the VOD with english commentators (Day9), sorry if someone already posted it but i don't want to read the comments and get spoiled ^^ http://www.own3d.tv/video/82417/IEM_WC_SC2___GRAND_FINAL_-_Moon_vs_Ace You're awesome. Thank you! | ||
Confuse
2238 Posts
On March 06 2011 02:59 cobrastyle wrote: sorry if already mentionend, moon said that it wasn't possible to hear the crowd. dunno if he just wanted to be nice. Not to stir up trouble, but I think most people were saying that Ace just looked into the crowd and saw them cheering, not heard anything specifically. I think they can actually see out of the booth at GSL too, so is there really any way to prevent this if a player periodically peeks at the audience for the first 5-10 minutes? Does anyone know how it works? Maybe booths need a curtain... first they are up, the player is allowed a mini ceremony before the matches, then the curtain comes down and shit gets real. I don't know. I was really disappointed Moon lost that game, I love the aggressive zerg style (Kyrix/Moon/FruitDealer - I know they're all different, but aggressive in general) that looks possibly competitive, and I'd hate for it to get shut out because of external factors. | ||
StutteR
United States1903 Posts
On March 06 2011 03:11 Confuse wrote: Not to stir up trouble, but I think most people were saying that Ace just looked into the crowd and saw them cheering, not heard anything specifically. I think they can actually see out of the booth at GSL too, so is there really any way to prevent this if a player periodically peeks at the audience for the first 5-10 minutes? Does anyone know how it works? Maybe booths need a curtain... first they are up, the player is allowed a mini ceremony before the matches, then the curtain comes down and shit gets real. I don't know. I was really disappointed Moon lost that game, I love the aggressive zerg style (Kyrix/Moon/FruitDealer - I know they're all different, but aggressive in general) that looks possibly competitive, and I'd hate for it to get shut out because of external factors. You forgot July :D | ||
Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
On March 06 2011 03:11 Confuse wrote: Not to stir up trouble, but I think most people were saying that Ace just looked into the crowd and saw them cheering, not heard anything specifically. I think they can actually see out of the booth at GSL too, so is there really any way to prevent this if a player periodically peeks at the audience for the first 5-10 minutes? Does anyone know how it works? Maybe booths need a curtain... first they are up, the player is allowed a mini ceremony before the matches, then the curtain comes down and shit gets real. I don't know. I was really disappointed Moon lost that game, I love the aggressive zerg style (Kyrix/Moon/FruitDealer - I know they're all different, but aggressive in general) that looks possibly competitive, and I'd hate for it to get shut out because of external factors. In GSL, I think I remember someone mentioning that you cannot see anything outside from inside the booth as it is a one way mirror or something... Anyone care to confirm this? | ||
Slardar
Canada7592 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On March 06 2011 03:11 Confuse wrote: Not to stir up trouble, but I think most people were saying that Ace just looked into the crowd and saw them cheering, not heard anything specifically. I think they can actually see out of the booth at GSL too, so is there really any way to prevent this if a player periodically peeks at the audience for the first 5-10 minutes? Does anyone know how it works? Maybe booths need a curtain... first they are up, the player is allowed a mini ceremony before the matches, then the curtain comes down and shit gets real. I don't know. I was really disappointed Moon lost that game, I love the aggressive zerg style (Kyrix/Moon/FruitDealer - I know they're all different, but aggressive in general) that looks possibly competitive, and I'd hate for it to get shut out because of external factors. I'm not going to argue if the crowd was the reason or not but it felt kind of so since Ace started scouting around the base right after the crowd started cheering. Of course it's possible Ace just knows the timings perfectly but I'll say that it was the crowd since any protoss will prevent that with pylons rather than scouts. | ||
SushilS
2115 Posts
On March 06 2011 03:21 Resolve wrote: In GSL, I think I remember someone mentioning that you cannot see anything outside from inside the booth as it is a one way mirror or something... Anyone care to confirm this? Yup its reflective inside... You cant see outside! Atleast the BW Starleagues and Proleague booths are reflective. | ||
fueNN
Germany58 Posts
http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=articles&id=6176 | ||
vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On March 06 2011 02:58 FXOpen wrote: Code S > Code A > KR Ladder 3500 > US TOP tiers & EU top tiers moonglade is 3500 ladder. And anyone equal to him would rape anyone top tier US and EU on a regular bo5 basis. Top tier US and EU outside of korea (excluding huk glade jinro haypro etc) wuld be rank 250-500 on korean ladder. And would only split top 200 with a 50% ratio. I have to admit that the Europeans didn't play well in this tournament, but I think you exaggerate. One tournament isn't enough to make such conclusions. (e.g. Naama at Dreamhack). | ||
Influ
Germany780 Posts
On March 06 2011 03:33 Valikyr wrote: I'm not going to argue if the crowd was the reason or not but it felt kind of so since Ace started scouting around the base right after the crowd started cheering. Of course it's possible Ace just knows the timings perfectly but I'll say that it was the crowd since any protoss will prevent that with pylons rather than scouts. That is not true. Protoss doesn't have enough pylons at that timing and patrolling with probes is very common in that case. Since this is about IEM i think i can even remember Hasu doing exact the same at IEM gamescom against dimaga and that was in september. I even do it myself when i expect nydus. | ||
Zumm
Germany122 Posts
I saw his first camera view on another screen (I was there), he pulled the probe at an awesome timing. Nobody was cheering at this time. I love how Day[9] commentated my cheering when everybody else was quiet =D | ||
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