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Super_Diglett
Profile Joined June 2020
2 Posts
June 20 2020 22:06 GMT
#1
Hey everyone!

As the title says, I started playing again, after 9 whole years. Got no clue where my old TL account is, so a new account has to do.

Playing Zerg, and I was wondering if some of you could hook me up with the lastest basic stategies for ZvT, ZvP and ZvZ. Been browsing a lot, but so much is from back in the day or 2 years old which I am not sure is still viable. Just looking for the basic timings, what builds to look out for and some standard Zerg builds to climp the ladding with.

Got placed in Gold 3, but mainly playing platinum and diamond players and losing games more on just forgetting to scout, but also getting slapped with units I have never seen before. Had to find out roaches aren't that great against transformed Hellions the hard way >.<

So I am just looking for basic all round information to get me up to speed! All the nitty gritty I will pick up from the just playing, getting rekked and then just reading up on what beat me.

Thanks in advance!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 21 2020 02:26 GMT
#2
To get back up to speed something like Vibe's bronze to GM series is probably what you're looking for:



For recent build orders you can check out spawning tool: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/ .
Super_Diglett
Profile Joined June 2020
2 Posts
June 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#3
Ah great! Thx ^^
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
June 21 2020 21:50 GMT
#4
The main difference for me compared to WoL and HotS is that every race expands much faster now, and the timings are up to 5 minutes quicker because of starting with more workers. As a rule of thumb, you can add a base: If a Terran pushed to deny a 3rd in WoL, the same push would be to deny a 4th now, but would still be around as game deciding. Because of that, even lower league players know how to take 3rd and 4th bases now, so you have to relearn to push that drone button!
Buff the siegetank
Metallica911
Profile Joined November 2017
9 Posts
June 23 2020 16:02 GMT
#5
Same here, long time break but thinking of firing back up the old BW
PhobiaStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2020
2 Posts
June 25 2020 15:34 GMT
#6
Welcome back! I'm curious what prompted you to start playing again.
SilentNoodle
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia290 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-26 09:12:11
June 26 2020 09:09 GMT
#7
i'm getting back into sc2 as well, started with good ole 2v2's ahaha

1v1 tho you might wanna check out PiG's youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9OluGthYmZo0vsF9IjicFg

Edit:
also looking at the sidebar,
https://tl.net/forum/sc2-strategy/531567-hushang-tutorials
Arrogant
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada51 Posts
August 15 2020 14:50 GMT
#8
I am in a familiar situation, coming back after not playing since 2013. For me it was the fact my wife and I couldn't go anywhere on vacation so I decided to play through the campaign.

I'm particularly interested in any map packs to try learning some simple builds. If anyone can recommend any I would greatly appreciate it!
Team Synergy
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 15 2020 15:53 GMT
#9
On August 15 2020 23:50 Arrogant wrote:
I am in a familiar situation, coming back after not playing since 2013. For me it was the fact my wife and I couldn't go anywhere on vacation so I decided to play through the campaign.

I'm particularly interested in any map packs to try learning some simple builds. If anyone can recommend any I would greatly appreciate it!

DreamHack Masters Summer released all their replays for free.
Other source would probably Wardi, he gives all replays he casts (-Wekkly ESL Open Cups) to his Twitch subscribers and there is about absolutly not a single Pro out there, who doesn t get featured by him from time to time, because he covers so much.
MaxPax
Arrogant
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada51 Posts
August 15 2020 16:23 GMT
#10
On August 16 2020 00:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2020 23:50 Arrogant wrote:
I am in a familiar situation, coming back after not playing since 2013. For me it was the fact my wife and I couldn't go anywhere on vacation so I decided to play through the campaign.

I'm particularly interested in any map packs to try learning some simple builds. If anyone can recommend any I would greatly appreciate it!

DreamHack Masters Summer released all their replays for free.
Other source would probably Wardi, he gives all replays he casts (-Wekkly ESL Open Cups) to his Twitch subscribers and there is about absolutly not a single Pro out there, who doesn t get featured by him from time to time, because he covers so much.


Sweet thanks for the quick reply! I will download and check out!
Team Synergy
LYMx
Profile Joined August 2020
2 Posts
August 16 2020 02:44 GMT
#11
Same, since wol
Plat terran /w LYM on eu if you want to practise
I like to analyse replays with practise friends
brannonhane38
Profile Joined August 2020
1 Post
August 16 2020 06:55 GMT
#12
wow amazing.
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States654 Posts
August 16 2020 08:21 GMT
#13
Anyone else coming back to the game finds that getting replay is such a huge hassle nowadays?
It is insane.............
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
iamove_
Profile Joined August 2020
1 Post
August 16 2020 11:40 GMT
#14
On June 21 2020 07:06 Super_Diglett wrote:
Hey everyone!

As the title says, I started playing again, after 9 whole years. Got no clue where my old TL account is, so a new account has to do.

Playing Zerg, and I was wondering if some of you could hook me up with the lastest basic stategies for ZvT, ZvP and ZvZ. Been browsing a lot, but so much is from back in the day or 2 years old which I am not sure is still viable. Just looking for the basic timings, what builds to look out for and some standard Zerg builds to climp the ladding with.

Got placed in Gold 3, but mainly playing platinum and diamond players and losing games more on just forgetting to scout, but also getting slapped with units I have never seen before. Had to find out roaches aren't that great against transformed Hellions the hard way >.<

So I am just looking for basic all round information to get me up to speed! All the nitty gritty I will pick up from the just playing, getting rekked and then just reading up on what beat me.

Thanks in advance!



I am in the same boat. For zerg I found that sc2swarm (https://sc2swarm.com/) has helped me. Most of the updated builds are on Youtube these days. PiGs Youtube channel is a good place to start. He has a build order guides and coaching sessions you can watch.
cartwrightkari
Profile Joined November 2020
1 Post
November 18 2020 10:49 GMT
#15
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Kertorak
Profile Joined November 2019
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-29 03:22:32
November 28 2020 21:34 GMT
#16
Hi there. First I'm addressing an answer here, then the topic poster (my actual answer) in an attempt to foster some dedicated help.

On June 21 2020 11:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
To get back up to speed something like Vibe's bronze to GM series is probably what you're looking for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRzaIP6jl5s

For recent build orders you can check out spawning tool: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/ .

If I may comment on this: This "recommendation" is literally "posted" + Show Spoiler +
(I would say spam I was honest)
everywhere.. This content-creator is great... that being said answering to anyone having specific questions with this, everywhere () is.... It's very very general recommendation without caring for what the person actually asked.

Fair enough: It's super if someone looks for a comprehensive, big, long term "guide", otherwise quite big. It's basically a massive learning live-guide from ground, and it covers everything but it's spread from bronze to master (playing in these). And nice enough to post the replay-site (I didn't know about spawning-tool, thanks)

[When I would link this guide maker: I would give several summaries of where to look at that series... depending on what the person seeks, just respecting that huge content and that it confused anyone just getting there; but it's always just "go to [beep]'s b to gm"] [FYI I studied that guy some x months ago from some random recommendation to me]

So: I feel the person asking perhaps needs some some shorter guides like builds meta, replays, even though I personally would not give builds right away,
1) but hey if he asks:

This is the replay sites I have bookmarked for myself to look at what the pros do:
- Dreamhack 2020: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lOYMZR-BwqE4Lha6upOZyuvbOeJ42HAl
- And here you can find other replays, i.e. one from 2020: https://drop.sc/replay/16004281

If you seek certain counters, I'm sure someone can link to the exact replay, there is just so much :-) see 2)

On August 16 2020 17:21 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Anyone else coming back to the game finds that getting replay is such a huge hassle nowadays?
It is insane.............

I read this, and tried to include the answer here, see above 1)

On June 21 2020 07:06 Super_Diglett wrote:

Playing Zerg, and I was wondering if some of you could hook me up with the lastest basic stategies for ZvT, ZvP and ZvZ. Been browsing a lot, but so much is from back in the day or 2 years old which I am not sure is still viable. Just looking for the basic timings, what builds to look out for and some standard Zerg builds to climp the ladding with.

[...] Had to find out roaches aren't that great against transformed Hellions the hard way >.<

On top of 1)
2) but hey if he asks:

Okay: You seek for timings, and for instance Zerg vs Hellbats:
This is sources I discovered myself , "recently":
- GM-Zerg: Defending Hellbats and vsing Mech - Coaching ZvT Diamond 1
(FYI: this is not super recent, but from my experience it looks like "this years'" Meta! Source: see replay sites)

- GM-Zerg Lambo with some great mini guides (which from what I read you seek), 2019-2020: https://www.youtube.com/c/LamboSC2/videos
he also mentions the timings you seek very well.

For other strategies (just ask for what you want to know exactly,, because it's not small content the game has :-),
I'm sure anyone can give you some quick modern references to single replays or single guides.
I just happened to read this , now. Have fun :-)
I wish I had quality over quantity | "The point of Sc<x> is that your skill a constant WIP - which provides that unique joy of the game - not to post which rank you are in a this moment"
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
December 03 2020 04:11 GMT
#17
Damn, nice write up Kertorak. Making me give it another run!
XK ßubonic
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