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On June 22 2008 13:48 MyStiC_Chaos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2008 13:29 Xeris wrote:its just funny how people dont talk about 2v2 for like the past 3-4 years, and now all of a sudden there's like "2v2 TSL GOGO??" thread and "2v2 practice group" threads popping up  lol. I've always wanted to 2vs2 but I've seen people say it's too boring -_-
If you can't think for yourself how are you even playing Starcraft in the first place? You find out yourself by trying it out, not by listening to others and taking their words as facts. Xeris nailed this one.
On June 22 2008 10:55 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
NO ITS just that 2v2 is fun, and imo fun to watch. it is really a cool untapped part of starcraft, you see a lot of cool/innovative strats in 2v2 that you dont see so much in 1v1
I agree. Nowadays with the huge macro games we see, 1v1 has changed a lot since the old days of mega micro intensive games that where always exciting and intense. 2v2 still retains this mentality of aggression and micro, however, that's why I like playing it and watching it as well! Plus, some people say DMZ was bad, but imo if a map with really short positions like that was implemented again, I would like it, because even as such a bad map it provided extremely entertaining games sometimes, because of all the hyper aggression with rushes and stuff. I love 2v2!!! <3
On June 21 2008 15:38 Ancestral wrote:
Clearly we just need a foreign Proleague.
iirc this was attempted and there were teams, but eventually people just stopped showing up.
@op - Yes, I would be for this, but it would be watched far less than the 1v1, therefore a 2v2 TSL is not exactly feasible.
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the problem with this is it would be MUCH harder to find the time to organize this properly, you now need 4 players ready to play on a certain day, adn the qualifiers would be hard as hell since you would need a set team and not everyone has a 100% set allie, and if you do it could be hard to find times to play the necessary amount of games to get into the top.
A nice 8 man invitational tournament could be nice though, maybe 4 invite and 4 earned spots with a qualifier or something? Nothing too spectacular. But if they were to do that i would attempt to play and would most certainly watch.
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true that not to mention the network settings ughhhhhh
highly unlikely but an invitational would be cool.
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why would it have to be invitational? a ladder wouldnt be totally possible. Some of the top players in the TSL were relatively unknown and probably wouldnt have had a chance if it was invite only.
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um no, they are only unknown to those who don't follow the foreigner scene.
We've had 'pro leagues' for ages now like WGTCL. There are many active 2v2 players.
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I would join with my buddy who doesn't post on TL.net but lurks like a mofo
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On June 23 2008 00:37 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
why would it have to be invitational? a ladder wouldnt be totally possible. Some of the top players in the TSL were relatively unknown and probably wouldnt have had a chance if it was invite only.
that statement couldn't be more wrong. there were no real unknowns in TSL.. if you are familiar with the foreign scene, which obviously much of TL.net is not, then you would have known all the players.
for example... Dinot has been really good for about a year now, Brat was always really good but was inactive for a period, Iefnaij has been good forever, Dreiven has been monstrous in the past 6 months etc, Rondo has recently got real good...
so really there weren't too many surprise names.
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Yes but I bet rondo and maybe even brat_ok probably wouldnt have gotten invited if TSL was invite only. You cant honestly say that all the people who qualified would have been the exact people admins would have invited.
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Then it should be with randoms partners like in wc3 ladder 2on2..
I think if mondragon and testie played together they would win but if they got random partners I doubt they would be good enough to carry their partner
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On June 26 2008 06:59 Craixs wrote:Then it should be with randoms partners like in wc3 ladder 2on2.. I think if mondragon and testie played together they would win but if they got random partners I doubt they would be good enough to carry their partner
no that would be worse
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I'm a lousy player myself, but 2v2s are fun to watch. I'm afraid it'll be the same as in tennis, though: the great 1 v. 1 players don't bother with doubles, and the great doubles players get little attention. If some of the big names would play 2v2, that would be great.
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I'd only play if there was hunters as one of the maps.
I would follow it really close regardless of map pool. 
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I would follow 2v2s for sure... more chance at drama >_>
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No thanks, 2v2 is not fun for me to watch or play in
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I think the idea of having an invitational is good, invite like 8 teams and have 8 qualify? or 4 teams and 4 qualify? That'd be fun!
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I think the truth is that there is a limited amount of effort and time that the admins we have can devote to running an event that will be as well run and organized as the first TSL, and a TSL 2 would be much more appreciated and attract more attention than a 2v2. Having some sort of 2v2 tournament would be fun but I don't think it should be of the same magnitude as TSL.
That said.... not even a bit of hype yet for TSL 2? Lets get it going before summer is over so people can play and not worry about school!!!!
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On June 21 2008 06:49 yubee wrote:
no
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