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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 21 2007 16:44 GMT
#81
On October 19 2007 02:26 SuperJongMan wrote:
JD will be #1 in seconds. All your page long arguments are useless.


Ummm, isn't JD going to be #2, with Casy being #1 since he can get back to practicing?
Or maybe JD will take it in seconds, whereas Casy needs a few minutes to get his shape back up

On October 21 2007 11:38 TheTyranid wrote:
Extremely lucky would be a more accurate description.

Now Bisu is getting a free pass into the semis. I PRAY that Nal_rA will be able to take him out.
(If he does, Savior will win this MSL )

Nobody besides rA has a chance against Bisu.


Everyone in the tournament has a chance against Bisu. I mean, come on, this is Starcraft, where the most untouchably dominant players in their prime lose a third of their games.
Trucy Wright is hot
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 06:24:47
October 22 2007 06:23 GMT
#82
That is true. In SC, or any sport, any player could theoretically beat Bisu. But Bisu has such odds against the others in the MSL that it is safe to assume that Bisu will beat them.
Kwanro COULD beat Bisu but do you honestly believe that's going to happen?

After I saw Savior vs. Stork game 2, I was sure that Savior had little chance of Beating Bisu. Stork use the same mass sair/reaver harass into goon/zeal/temp steamroll that Bisu used vs. GGGplay. Savior was able to defend 2 waves of Stork's units, of course because Stork's PvZ is not polished and Savior has great defence and micro.
Against Bisu, the king of mass sair harass, Savior just won't stand a chance if the game will be similar to those two.

edit: Zerg just haven't come up with a counter yet for a polished mass sair+ dt/reaver harass.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 22 2007 16:39 GMT
#83
On October 22 2007 15:23 TheTyranid wrote:
Kwanro COULD beat Bisu but do you honestly believe that's going to happen?.


Nope, I don't believe it's going to happen, but I didn't believe that Flash would 2-0 Bisu, nor did I believe that Mind+Mania+Xellos would advance, nor did I believe that PJ would beat Savior, but it's Starcraft, these things happen, and to say that 6 out of 7 players don't have a chance is a very bold statement

I'll agree that Bisu is the favourite to win MSL, but I wouldn't give him more than a 65% chance to win the whole tournament
Trucy Wright is hot
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 23 2007 00:33 GMT
#84
On October 22 2007 15:23 TheTyranid wrote:
edit: Zerg just haven't come up with a counter yet for a polished mass sair+ dt/reaver harass.

the problem isnt in the strategy, or z's would have problems with more than just bisu.
bisu is just head and shoulders above everyone else in execution and multitasking, he would dominate with any build. the harass oriented style just happens to make best use of his multitasking.
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 23 2007 06:22 GMT
#85
That is what I meant by polished.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 24 2007 22:50 GMT
#86
zerg has a counter to it, they just cant execute well enough to keep up with bisu
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 25 2007 12:17 GMT
#87
Steve, Can you please put Rock up for the next PR.
He is so #6 slot worthy. THE FUTURE.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-25 23:28:58
October 25 2007 23:06 GMT
#88
November PR prediction;

1. bisu
2. savior
3. hwasin
4. stork
5. iris
6. jaedong
7. sea
8. ggplay
9. light
10. free

Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
October 26 2007 15:21 GMT
#89
It's about time GGPlay sinks to the 8-10th ranks, people have been overestimating him so much since his OSL win :/
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 27 2007 17:49 GMT
#90
How about dropping Iris and GGplay since since Last OSL they have done nothing but lose PL.
Move Rock up. Obvious reasons. He's great.
Is light really a choice when Anytime is 9-1 in Proleague?
and OFC, Xellos.
You guys don't see it but he's winning another MSL.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 27 2007 18:25 GMT
#91
On October 28 2007 02:49 SuperJongMan wrote:
How about dropping Iris and GGplay since since Last OSL they have done nothing but lose PL.
Move Rock up. Obvious reasons. He's great.
Is light really a choice when Anytime is 9-1 in Proleague?
and OFC, Xellos.
You guys don't see it but he's winning another MSL.

You mean Xellos won a MSL before?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-27 20:59:18
October 27 2007 20:57 GMT
#92
pj for #1 power rank

and mondi beat savior too so he gets #2

and white_ra is like 77-0 vs stork so he gets #3

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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 09:29:50
October 28 2007 09:27 GMT
#93
1. (P)Bisu he is in the ro4 of MSL and in the group stages of OSL, he beats (Z)GGPlay, (T)Hwasin and he is showing dominance. In proleague in 1vs1 he is inconsistent (probably due to the fact that he is in both individual leagues ), in 2vs2 however he has a good form

2. (Z)sAviOr he is in the ro4 of MSL and in the group stages of OSL, he is little by little showing his monstrouous form, in proleague he is not good, but he swept (P)Stork

3. (T)Hwasin, despite his lost against (P)Bisu in the MSL he is in the OSL, and he is the BeSt terran at this time, however he is showing mediocre result in proleague....

4. (P)Stork, he is qualified for ro8 in OSL bu was beaten by (Z)sAviOr in MSL in ro16, he is very good but made some mistake against player like soo and (T)RuBy

the 4 that i ve listed are goood in all matchup

5. (Z)Jaedong, despite showing incredible performance vT (14-0 xinning streak, 11-0 according to fifo and 4-0 vZ winning streak, 10-0 acccording to fifo) he lacks agianst P, he is not in the MSL, he is in the ro8 of OSL, he is 5-1 in proleague

6. (P)Anytime, he is not in the MSL or in the OSL but he is so strong (he is 8-1) i rank him 6

7. (T)Iris, he is in the OSL, not in the MSL but he made so little match that i dont know how his current form is....

8. (T)Light, he has been knoked out of the MSL by (Z)Kwanro (and that is saying a lot !!! ) but he is in the OSL, i don't like him....dunno why

9. (T)Sea, he isnt in the MSL or OSL but he is 5-1 (something like this) in proleague, he is still strong macro monster

10. (Z)GGPlay.... despite knoked out of OSL he is 4-1 in proleague but he is not material champion anymore.....

(P)free ???? no he is showing mediocre result......
(P)Rock???? O_O
(P)Kal ????? lol
Silverflame
Profile Joined August 2006
United States428 Posts
October 28 2007 21:47 GMT
#94
lol (P)Anytime. Zero individual leagues and his 9-1 proleague record is meaningless when all of his wins were against people no-names like PianO and Haran or slumping vets like rA, NaDa, and the karma-ridden FBH.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 29 2007 05:34 GMT
#95
My prediction:

1) Bisu
2) Savior
3) Stork (EYE LAHHH TEA LEEQUEE DAH NEHT!)
4) Jaedong
5) Iris
6) Hwasin
7) Anytime
8) Upmagic
9) GGPlay
10) free

Worth mentioning:

forGG: lol what a noob
Reach: manly 2v2 play recently
Kwanro: nice try, u still can't beat bisu


Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
October 29 2007 21:57 GMT
#96
lol Anytime. Zero individual leagues and his 9-1 proleague record is meaningless when all of his wins were against people no-names like PianO and Haran or slumping vets like rA, NaDa, and the karma-ridden FBH.


Haran just beat hwasin and light
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
October 29 2007 21:59 GMT
#97
My picks:

1) Bisu
2) Savior
3) Jaedong
4) Hwasin
5) Stork
6) Iris
7) Sea
8) Free
9) GGplay
10) Light
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 30 2007 08:00 GMT
#98
lol.. that's just the same players scrambled.
I think I can name 9 players hotter atm than Iris.. or Light.

Once Upon a Time... Jangbi graced Power Rank...
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
October 30 2007 10:37 GMT
#99
Yeah, and that was a mistake.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
October 30 2007 17:34 GMT
#100
lol.. that's just the same players scrambled.
I think I can name 9 players hotter atm than Iris.. or Light.


Some players are moving up others are moving down, hence yes it is scramble like. I cant put someone like upmagic or reach above ggplay or light in good faith. Both players are too solid to be counted out just yet.

I dont think the top 10 is about being hot, its about being consistent. Otherwise Kwanro would be top 25 which isn't realistic :/

If I was to have a 11/12 it would probably be Nal_ra, oversky. I would put Nada up there if it wasn't for that streak of losses.
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