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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-18 07:15:47
January 18 2008 07:08 GMT
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banner by: KizZBG



Group D
Game 1 - (T)XellOs vs (P)JangBi - Zodiac
Game 2 - (T)Hwasin vs (T)firebathero - Katrina
Winners - Blue Storm
Losers - Blue Storm
Final - Loki II

Results
+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1 - (T)XellOs < (P)JangBi - Zodiac
Game 2 - (T)Hwasin < (T)Firebathero - Katrina
Winners - (P)JangBi > (T)firebathero - Blue Storm
Losers - (T)XellOs < (T)Hwasin - Blue Storm
Final - (T)firebathero < (T)Hwasin - Loki II



Game 1 - (T)XellOs vs (P)JangBi - Zodiac



A fairly entertaining match. Jangbi takes a huge advantage with his no gate double build, and controls the game from the start. XellOs plays a bit awkwardly, attempting to take his middle expo a tad too quickly and allowing the CC to die from Janbi's well placed attack. The game seemed to fall quickly for Jangbi until Arbiters came into play. The game suddenly looked a lot like Jangbi vs Shudder during the survivor league as Jangbi slowly began to throw away his lead with failed recalls while XellOs takes more expos and amass a large tank/vulture army.

But if there's one lesson Jangbi learned from his game vs Shudder, it's that when things fail, you switch techs. Playing like the true teammate of Stork, Jangbi quickly switches to carrier. XellOs's counter attack leads spectators to hope for a comeback, but Jangbi successfully lands a cruicial recall in XellOs's expansion while trading in his own, and creates a nice carrier army to finish off XellOs's defenseless tanks.

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Jangbi: "Finally!"


Game 2 - (T)Hwasin vs (T)firebathero - Katrina



Though it is fairly known by now about how I feel about FBH, I will give it some effort to remain unbiased here.

As far as TvT games go, this was a nice game. FBH takes a nice lead with excellent tank placement that prevented Hwasin from mining at his center expo, but Hwasin soon flips the game by taking another starting base and successfully useing his dropship advantage to kill FBH's more spread out expansions. Soon the game seems to be in favor for Hwasin as he continues to gain more points with his successful drops, and it seemed like the finishing touch as the screen showed starports with add-ons going up for Hwasin.

Then came the blow. FBH fires back with a huge drop in Hwasin's main, luring the freshly made battle-cruisers to defend. As the battle ships approach a jaw-dropping scene occured. 4~5 dropships fly in out of no where and unload a sea of goliaths right beneath the battlecruisers. Missiles cover the screen and as the dust clears, Hwasin has lost almost all of his battlecruiser fleet and tanks. Fueled by his success, FBH cleans out Hwasin's base while reclaiming the expansions at 6, and soon delivers another mass drop at Hwasin's newly started base at 1, taking over the starports and effectively knocking Hwasin down.

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Even I gotta admit, this was pretty cool


Winners - (P)JangBi vs (T)firebathero - Blue Storm



Many have wondered how Jangbi advanced from this group with a 2-0. But I am not surprised. Janbi has been hailed as a strong player for KHAN, often compared to Stork. His PvT skills offer proof of that. Jangbi opens with a gas rush in which FBH replies to with a 1 rax academy build. FBH soon attacks with a small mnm force and forces Jangbi to pull off probes to defend. The game seemed to be tipped for FBH as he successfully trades his mnm army for a good chunk of Jangbi's probes.

Personally I believe FBH could have won that with a scan-rush (same thing but with SCVs), but he refused to gay cheese a fellow teammate, which ultimately caused his downfall. The game is nothing particularily special after the initial rush. Jangbi fights back with goon/zeal/reaver while he expands and FBH attempts to break Jangbi before the motherships are airborn. Jangbi uses some excellent fighting tactics to trade in his army with FBH, successfully protecting his expansions and adds carriers into the mix. With carriers/goons and plenty of resource to boot, Jangbi takes the game.

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Yes, your eyes are fine


Losers - (T)XellOs vs (T)Hwasin - Blue Storm



XellOs has been creating much buzz with his recent show of killer-instincts. Many were hoping this would be his return to the top. But if XellOs wants to do that, he has to stop messing up so badly. First he opens with an proxy 8 rax that gets detected and denied. Then he opens with 1 fac double while Hwasin does the same except adds a single starport. XellOs is caught with his pants down as a couple of wraiths flies in and takes kill after kill. XellOs's desparate vulture counter is slaughtered by tanks, and the game just gets worst and worst. Eventually Hwasin finishes off XellOs, and the two wraiths that Hwasin sent in to hunt SCVs took nearly 40 SCV kills.

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The finishing blow


Final - (T)firebathero vs (T)Hwasin - Loki II



Hwasin enters this game looking for revenge. The game plays out like a regular TvT, with FBH taking the lead once again. Using dropships more effectively than Hwasin, FBH successfully prevents Hwasin from taking additional expos while taking up half the map. But Hwasin soon pulls yet another comeback. Evading a frontal confrontation, Hwasin attacks FBH's spread out expansions while trading in his own expansion. FBH plays along and attempts to break open Hwasin's nat, forcing Hwasin to meet him face to face. Hwasin, after clearing out more of FBH's expos comes home and defends FBH, turning the game around.

What seemed like a sure win for FBH suddenly seemed not so hot for the dancing man, as Hwasin squeezed him dry. A last ditch attempt to take an expansion falls short to Hwasin's overwhelming army, and FBH allows himself to be eliminated from the MSL.

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Only one shall remain


Overall Analysis:
A truly enjoyable final game, despite being a TvT. XellOs falls victim to what seems to be a recurring trend of seeds bowing out early... though that could partially be because of CJ's preparations for the Playoffs. Meanwhile Jangbi proves to be a powerful PvT advocate. But much has yet to be tested of the little man, and with the super stars falling out left and right, this may be his perfect chance to do just that.




MSL Ro32 Group E
January 15th, 2008


Group E
Game 1 - (T)Memory vs (T)UpMagiC - Katrina
Game 2 - (T)fOrGG vs (Z)Luxury - Blue Storm
Winners - Loki II
Losers - Loki II
Final - Zodiac

Results
+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1 - (T)Memory < (T)UpMagiC - Katrina
Game 2 - (T)fOrGG > (Z)Luxury - Blue Storm
Winners - (T)UpMagiC > (T)fOrGG - Loki II
Losers - (T)Memory < (Z)Luxury - Loki II
Final - (T)fOrGG < (Z)Luxury - Zodiac



Game 1 - (T)Memory vs (T)UpMagiC - Katrina

I really enjoy UpMagiC play. Out of all the "neo-boxer!" hypes, UpMagic is without a doubt the closest one who mirrors BoxeR. While this game may not have anything particularily special, it still shows some entertaining moments. UpMagiC simply out plays Memory with tanks and wraiths. By the end of the game UpMagiC has built a total of 9 starports. Memory's last ditch attempt to fight back with valkyries prove pointless, as he adds yet another loss to his horrid TvT record.

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Resistance is futile


Game 2 - (T)fOrGG vs (Z)Luxury - Blue Storm


There is not much to say about this game except that ForGG did very well despite the shaky beginning. His initial vulture harrass seemed to be pointless as speedlings trap them, but a second pair did what the first could not: get some drone kills. Following up with 2 port wraiths, ForGG hits where it hurts, and as Luxury's desperate muta counter is met by mnm, ForGG takes the game.

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Cat and mouse


Winners - (T)UpMagiC vs (T)fOrGG - Loki II


Honestly, there's just so many games I've watched this week that it's really difficult to remember all of them. This game wasn't very special. ForGG and Up both played very well, each gaining a lead at some point or another. But Up's expansion at 11 goes unnoticed, allowing him to gain the advantage he needed to tip the game in his favor. As intercepts most of ForGG's loaded dropships with reactions like a cat, Up advances to the single elimination tournament.

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Only 1 dropship survived this ambush


Losers - (T)Memory vs (Z)Luxury - Loki II


Crazy Zerg. That is the name given to the strategy Luxury used, the strategy that is becoming increasingly popular in gas-heavy maps such as Loki and Katrina. Luxury's execution of the strategy was beautiful. Much better than Savior or ZerO's attempt that got them both eliminated this MSL. Memory's inability to save his vessels early on really cost him a lot, and his inability to prevent Luxury from taking a 4th gas gave Luxury the clutch.

With his initial muta harrass killing an engineering bay, Luxury was able to stay level with the upgrades (even though he lost an evo himself), his vessel hunting play allowed him to mass ultralisks, and an incredibly well coordinated flank really gave him the clutch. This new style of zerg has recently intrigued me greatly. Huge props to Luxury.

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Take notes, Savior


Final - (T)fOrGG vs (Z)Luxury - Zodiac


It is glaringly clear that ForGG came unprepared for a 5th game. Compared to his successful play in game 1 against Luxury, this was exactly the opposite, and more. Both players open similarily, ForGG opening with factory and Lux opening with 2 hatch muta. Luxury decides to play it safe and sunkens early while droning up, while ForGG decides that using the same strat twice is too risky, and takes a CC. Except he forgot one thing: 2 hatch muta is pretty damn fast.

By the time Luxury's first 6 mutalisks arrive at ForGG's base, ForGG had 3 unfinished turrets, 6 marines with no stim or range and two medics for defense. Combine that with Luxury's muta micro, and you just know a massacre is unavoidable. Predictably, Luxury rips ForGG apart, and what could have been a gripping final game ended in a very anti-climatic way.

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Might as well put firebats for defense, they'd be just as useless against Luxury's mutas


Overall Analysis:
Yet another seed eliminated 2-0! Although, considering that fact that it's Memory, it's not TOO surprising. Meanwhile Luxury is showing better results than his brother, who's eliminated from MSL + Show Spoiler [Wed OSL spoiler] +
and is 0-1 in OSL.
Hwasin, who gained some fans and anti-fans from his interview, eliminates FBH as he promised and advances to the Ro16.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 18 2008 07:33 GMT
#2
Thanks! I don't think there was that much to talk about in Group E.

I like JangBi. I hope he does well.
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 18 2008 07:40 GMT
#3
i always appreciate/enjoy reading these
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
January 18 2008 07:57 GMT
#4
nice :3

lol @ first pic of fbh
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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
January 18 2008 08:17 GMT
#5
<3 these articles, i thought that was some crafty photoshopping with an actual handshake taking place :O!
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 18 2008 09:17 GMT
#6
Nice write up
I hope Lux and Upmagic do well in the MSL
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
January 18 2008 11:03 GMT
#7
Good summary. Most of these games were really fun to watch. =) Ofcourse Hwasin eliminating FBH was the icing on the cake. :p
觀過斯知仁矣.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
January 18 2008 11:08 GMT
#8
Jangbi and Xellos are so cute ;D
Sourdough
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany92 Posts
January 18 2008 14:43 GMT
#9
Had no time to watch, so thank you very much for the great read!

VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
January 18 2008 15:23 GMT
#10
Thanks, great read.
Very happy that Up and Lux made it, perfect.
Xellos messed up, and I pretty much 99% knew he would.
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OzzZz
Profile Joined January 2008
14 Posts
January 18 2008 16:04 GMT
#11
very nice
Pashel v pisdu baran ebanyi!
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 18 2008 16:17 GMT
#12
Jangbi, Lux and Up.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
ineverwin
Profile Joined January 2008
United States93 Posts
January 18 2008 20:14 GMT
#13
what is crazy zerg?
iloveGG
Profile Joined October 2006
United Kingdom14 Posts
January 18 2008 23:10 GMT
#14


I support Lux , he is really good at control mut
Axidboy
Profile Joined April 2007
Latvia95 Posts
January 19 2008 00:12 GMT
#15
"Yes, your eyes are fine" <<< nice comment :D made me laugh
Fakaz
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 19 2008 03:13 GMT
#16
yeeeee hwasin
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 19 2008 08:54 GMT
#17
what the hell is a no gate double build
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2dd
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium421 Posts
January 19 2008 22:53 GMT
#18
such an excellent post again
Clumsy_plz
Profile Joined October 2007
Korea (South)22 Posts
January 20 2008 01:35 GMT
#19
Goodbye~ Xellos.

Since Bisu & sAviOr dropped out of the race, Hwasin can win the title.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 20 2008 15:50 GMT
#20
Nice read. Up and Casys TvZ = Boxer. I still feel theres something missing in them, that Boxer has.
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