Why should Koreans be punished for being better than everyone else? It's such a silly argument. The World Finals would be so infinitely boring if only a handful of Koreans were able to make it through. Half of the matches would be Koreans smashing through the lesser foreigners that should not have been there in the first place. Sure, your favorite foreigner would be there at the World Finals "competing" with the top Koreans, but his participation would be short lived. It's not worth preventing a good chunk of the best players in the world from making it to the Finals just so you can see your favorite foreigner's face on the Finals stream and watch him get dismantled in his first match.

I don't know the format of the Grand Finals of the WCS, but just imagine a quarterfinal of Sase vs Soulkey, when it could have been Soulkey vs Mvp, for example. "OMG Sase is going up against Soulkey" would be the initial excited reaction. But it would lead to the same disappointment people are feeling right now, with the foreigner simply getting destroyed. Foreigners will be weeded out one way or the other, might as well get it out of the way now, rather than taint the Grand Finals.

TLDR; If a foreigner was eliminated by a Korean at WCS EU or WCS NA, he would probably be quickly eliminated at the World Finals, anyway. It's not worth giving a spot to a player that isn't a realistic contender for the championship.

zarzobnz

New Zealand35 Posts

May 27 2013 03:35 GMT

#63

On May 27 2013 12:07 qGSkipper wrote:
Why should Koreans be punished for being better than everyone else? It's such a silly argument. The World Finals would be so infinitely boring if only a handful of Koreans were able to make it through. Half of the matches would be Koreans smashing through the lesser foreigners that should not have been there in the first place. Sure, your favorite foreigner would be there at the World Finals "competing" with the top Koreans, but his participation would be short lived. It's not worth preventing a good chunk of the best players in the world from making it to the Finals just so you can see your favorite foreigner's face on the Finals stream and watch him get dismantled in his first match.

I don't know the format of the Grand Finals of the WCS, but just imagine a quarterfinal of Sase vs Soulkey, when it could have been Soulkey vs Mvp, for example. "OMG Sase is going up against Soulkey" would be the initial excited reaction. But it would lead to the same disappointment people are feeling right now, with the foreigner simply getting destroyed. Foreigners will be weeded out one way or the other, might as well get it out of the way now, rather than taint the Grand Finals.

TLDR; If a foreigner was eliminated by a Korean at WCS EU or WCS NA, he would probably be quickly eliminated at the World Finals, anyway. It's not worth giving a spot to a player that isn't a realistic contender for the championship.

This is what I'm thinking right now. To all the haters, just be happy that some foreigners even made it out of the EU bracket. The "World Champs" should be by title the best players in the world, not six top players and ten randoms (no disrespect to any foreigners).

It's pretty silly that the haters are basically proposing that if you're Korean, you either fight a massive uphill battle to the top 6 of GSL code S, or you move countries so you can compete against an easier player pool.

stillborn

Germany119 Posts

May 27 2013 03:42 GMT

#64

Jeee, Korean guy wins European Chamionship ... Good conception of the Tournament :D

ChoDing

United States740 Posts

May 27 2013 03:51 GMT

#65

On May 27 2013 07:18 bsdaemon wrote:
Someone uploaded ForGG and Stephano's reactions in YouTube too.

T____T no forGG

HobyHarro

United States30 Posts

May 27 2013 04:08 GMT

#66

Great tournament!

wangstra

922 Posts

May 27 2013 04:18 GMT

#67

I for one would have thought that as a generation growing up with the Internet we would have embraced the interconnectivity we share and recognize SC as an international platform and less so something to celebrate nationalism or regionalism. We are playing on tech that lets folks unlike any other competition face off with one another in completely separate continents and share community, forums, videos, chat, strategy, etc.

midnight999

United States257 Posts

May 27 2013 04:26 GMT

#68

I really didn't think MVP had it in him to win another premier tournament... Apparently, I was wrong.

Good game, sir. Good game.

lichter

1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts

May 27 2013 04:26 GMT

#69

After these EU players have seen that they can compete with mid-tier Koreans, I hope this inspires them to work harder and improve. There's no reason for WCS EU not to become dominated by EU players in the future, and this increased difficulty due to a few Koreans participating will be one of the reasons for pushing the EU skill level higher. It's a much better outcome, and better in the long run, than having an isolated region whose player base becomes content on feeding on local events, and not aspiring for more.

RyLai

United States477 Posts

May 27 2013 04:31 GMT

#70

Why is everybody talking about this no-name Mzp kid?

The REAL star and hero of the show is clearly TLO!

Gratz TLO! We know this isn't how you wanted your ticket, but do your best at the Season 1 finals in Korea!

(And I'm jk about Mvp, good for him, though being an Mvp fan for a while, you sort of expect this when he barely survives the group stages and plays nothing but Zergs in the elimination rounds when TvZ doesn't require you to play 10x better than your Zerg opponent. Also, this is WCs EU, not WCS Korea. Mvp needs to be back in perfect physical condition, then train to be back at the top. His mechanics are great if his body is up to it, and his BoX performance is like no other.)

Bizeheryer

Germany307 Posts

May 27 2013 04:34 GMT

#71

Gratz to MVP and the ESL. Well played!

Pimpmuckl

Germany528 Posts

May 27 2013 04:36 GMT

#72

JÜRGEN HWAITINGGGG!

Really awesome finals, had a blast watching, so sad i couldn't go

Vertical

Indonesia4317 Posts

May 27 2013 04:46 GMT

#73

FUCK YEAH MVPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!

SHODAN

United Kingdom1155 Posts

May 27 2013 04:54 GMT

#74

"and when MVP saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer." benefits of a classical education. LONG LIVE THE KING!

The_Darkness

United States910 Posts

May 27 2013 05:02 GMT

#75

ForGG's rush was a 12/14, not an 11/11.

asdfOu

United States2089 Posts

May 27 2013 05:23 GMT

#76

LG-IM_Mvp SMASH

Taosu

Ukraine1074 Posts

May 27 2013 05:31 GMT

#77

Just wanted to watch VODs but oh, spoilers on the front page. >_<
Gratz MVP.

p14c

Vatican City State431 Posts

May 27 2013 05:48 GMT

#78

So a code B level player from Korea wins WCS EU easily...This makes Europe Code C level I guess?

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

May 27 2013 06:00 GMT

#79

On May 27 2013 14:48 p14c wrote:
So a code B level player from Korea wins WCS EU easily...This makes Europe Code C level I guess?

Mvp was definitely not playing at Code B level, his TvZ wins in the finals were better executed than most code a/s terrans. His play vs Stephano was really good, go watch the games if you haven't. He played better games than Yoda, Gumiho, Fantasy and lots of other Code S Terrans.