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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 27 2013 03:03 GMT
#61
Great tournament!
qGSkipper
Profile Joined December 2012
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 03:07:34
May 27 2013 03:07 GMT
#62
Why should Koreans be punished for being better than everyone else? It's such a silly argument. The World Finals would be so infinitely boring if only a handful of Koreans were able to make it through. Half of the matches would be Koreans smashing through the lesser foreigners that should not have been there in the first place. Sure, your favorite foreigner would be there at the World Finals "competing" with the top Koreans, but his participation would be short lived. It's not worth preventing a good chunk of the best players in the world from making it to the Finals just so you can see your favorite foreigner's face on the Finals stream and watch him get dismantled in his first match.

I don't know the format of the Grand Finals of the WCS, but just imagine a quarterfinal of Sase vs Soulkey, when it could have been Soulkey vs Mvp, for example. "OMG Sase is going up against Soulkey" would be the initial excited reaction. But it would lead to the same disappointment people are feeling right now, with the foreigner simply getting destroyed. Foreigners will be weeded out one way or the other, might as well get it out of the way now, rather than taint the Grand Finals.

TLDR; If a foreigner was eliminated by a Korean at WCS EU or WCS NA, he would probably be quickly eliminated at the World Finals, anyway. It's not worth giving a spot to a player that isn't a realistic contender for the championship.
zarzobnz
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand35 Posts
May 27 2013 03:35 GMT
#63
On May 27 2013 12:07 qGSkipper wrote:
Why should Koreans be punished for being better than everyone else? It's such a silly argument. The World Finals would be so infinitely boring if only a handful of Koreans were able to make it through. Half of the matches would be Koreans smashing through the lesser foreigners that should not have been there in the first place. Sure, your favorite foreigner would be there at the World Finals "competing" with the top Koreans, but his participation would be short lived. It's not worth preventing a good chunk of the best players in the world from making it to the Finals just so you can see your favorite foreigner's face on the Finals stream and watch him get dismantled in his first match.

I don't know the format of the Grand Finals of the WCS, but just imagine a quarterfinal of Sase vs Soulkey, when it could have been Soulkey vs Mvp, for example. "OMG Sase is going up against Soulkey" would be the initial excited reaction. But it would lead to the same disappointment people are feeling right now, with the foreigner simply getting destroyed. Foreigners will be weeded out one way or the other, might as well get it out of the way now, rather than taint the Grand Finals.

TLDR; If a foreigner was eliminated by a Korean at WCS EU or WCS NA, he would probably be quickly eliminated at the World Finals, anyway. It's not worth giving a spot to a player that isn't a realistic contender for the championship.


This is what I'm thinking right now. To all the haters, just be happy that some foreigners even made it out of the EU bracket. The "World Champs" should be by title the best players in the world, not six top players and ten randoms (no disrespect to any foreigners).

It's pretty silly that the haters are basically proposing that if you're Korean, you either fight a massive uphill battle to the top 6 of GSL code S, or you move countries so you can compete against an easier player pool.
stillborn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany119 Posts
May 27 2013 03:42 GMT
#64
Jeee, Korean guy wins European Chamionship ... Good conception of the Tournament :D
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
May 27 2013 03:51 GMT
#65
On May 27 2013 07:18 bsdaemon wrote:
Someone uploaded ForGG and Stephano's reactions in YouTube too.



T____T no forGG
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
HobyHarro
Profile Joined February 2013
United States30 Posts
May 27 2013 04:08 GMT
#66
Great tournament!
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
May 27 2013 04:18 GMT
#67
I for one would have thought that as a generation growing up with the Internet we would have embraced the interconnectivity we share and recognize SC as an international platform and less so something to celebrate nationalism or regionalism. We are playing on tech that lets folks unlike any other competition face off with one another in completely separate continents and share community, forums, videos, chat, strategy, etc.
midnight999
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States257 Posts
May 27 2013 04:26 GMT
#68
I really didn't think MVP had it in him to win another premier tournament... Apparently, I was wrong.

Good game, sir. Good game.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
May 27 2013 04:26 GMT
#69
After these EU players have seen that they can compete with mid-tier Koreans, I hope this inspires them to work harder and improve. There's no reason for WCS EU not to become dominated by EU players in the future, and this increased difficulty due to a few Koreans participating will be one of the reasons for pushing the EU skill level higher. It's a much better outcome, and better in the long run, than having an isolated region whose player base becomes content on feeding on local events, and not aspiring for more.
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RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
May 27 2013 04:31 GMT
#70
Why is everybody talking about this no-name Mzp kid?

The REAL star and hero of the show is clearly TLO!

Gratz TLO! We know this isn't how you wanted your ticket, but do your best at the Season 1 finals in Korea!

(And I'm jk about Mvp, good for him, though being an Mvp fan for a while, you sort of expect this when he barely survives the group stages and plays nothing but Zergs in the elimination rounds when TvZ doesn't require you to play 10x better than your Zerg opponent. Also, this is WCs EU, not WCS Korea. Mvp needs to be back in perfect physical condition, then train to be back at the top. His mechanics are great if his body is up to it, and his BoX performance is like no other.)
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
May 27 2013 04:34 GMT
#71
Gratz to MVP and the ESL. Well played!
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
May 27 2013 04:36 GMT
#72
JÜRGEN HWAITINGGGG!

Really awesome finals, had a blast watching, so sad i couldn't go
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 27 2013 04:46 GMT
#73
FUCK YEAH MVPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!
-Terran-
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom981 Posts
May 27 2013 04:54 GMT
#74
"and when MVP saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer." benefits of a classical education. LONG LIVE THE KING!
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
May 27 2013 05:02 GMT
#75
ForGG's rush was a 12/14, not an 11/11.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 27 2013 05:23 GMT
#76
LG-IM_Mvp SMASH
rip prime
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
May 27 2013 05:31 GMT
#77
Just wanted to watch VODs but oh, spoilers on the front page. >_<
Gratz MVP.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 27 2013 05:48 GMT
#78
So a code B level player from Korea wins WCS EU easily...This makes Europe Code C level I guess?
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2013 06:00 GMT
#79
On May 27 2013 14:48 p14c wrote:
So a code B level player from Korea wins WCS EU easily...This makes Europe Code C level I guess?


Mvp was definitely not playing at Code B level, his TvZ wins in the finals were better executed than most code a/s terrans. His play vs Stephano was really good, go watch the games if you haven't. He played better games than Yoda, Gumiho, Fantasy and lots of other Code S Terrans.
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 27 2013 06:14 GMT
#80
On May 27 2013 14:48 p14c wrote:
So a code B level player from Korea wins WCS EU easily...This makes Europe Code C level I guess?


Well we can't confirm your hypothesis at this point, we have to wait and see if the likes of INnoVation and Soulkey will smash him to pieces.
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