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[SPL] Week 1: Extra Extra! - Page 5

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DiHeSt
Profile Joined November 2011
Czech Republic7 Posts
December 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#81
gj
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:58:42
December 05 2011 16:58 GMT
#82
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


Sigh, one of the reason SC:BW seems so much more legit as a "Sport" compared to SC2 is the hordes of fangirls that we have. Where SC2 games are mostly spectated and cheered on by a bunch of dudes, we have grandmas, Rock Stars, Race Queens, hot chicks, little baby girls, etc cheering in SC:BW games. I don't see why you have a problem with SC:BW stars being treated like some sort of celebrities rather than simple gaming-dudes.

Plus your example is so skewed.. Flash has never been known for his looks (i don't think im mistaken when i say that Flash looks average at best).. Many other progamers though, have been known to be handsome: BoXeR, Nada, Saviour, Bisu, Jaedong, YellOw, Reach, Hwasin, etc... If you picked Bisu (<3) instead i might be a little undecided (if only for a moment).

In any case, good-looking stars + fangirls = natural result.. SC2 might have BoXeR and Nada now, but it lacks the other variable.. Plus theres another factor which i would like to list out as well, but will refrain in order to avoid another flamewar (or shitfest :3)

Edit: Almost forgot, awesome write-up, guys :3 quality just keep on improving recently <3
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
December 05 2011 17:08 GMT
#83
Great work, was quite sad to see T8 lose to SKT :/
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:23:04
December 05 2011 17:11 GMT
#84
loved the format, mustaju if you dont win liquibet ill be dissapointed
ace hwaiting!!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 05 2011 17:14 GMT
#85
SPL Writeups are always great. Many thanks to the writing and graphics teams!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2011 17:58 GMT
#86
Wow, awesome write up and formatting of the article! Good job, look forward to more
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
hoolaboris
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)55 Posts
December 05 2011 18:19 GMT
#87
Where can I find a schedule of proleague matches? I'm in seoul and I wanna go watch it. It's in the OGN studios now, right?
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
December 05 2011 18:29 GMT
#88
good write up!
Whatever happens, happens
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
December 05 2011 18:33 GMT
#89
Great article, really brighting my passion for broodwar.
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 05 2011 18:37 GMT
#90
woohoo! awesome article! :D thank you! :D
^^
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
December 05 2011 18:53 GMT
#91
Great writeup and very interesting opinions about how they feel since the disbanding of a few teams. I think it's true that we cheer for the players more than anything else, luckily my favourite players have hung around or have returned (yay effort!), but I do feel sorry for people's who's favourites have left (poor Anytime, you crazy bastard). I missed almost all of the matches this week so it was a really useful read. Great to hear CJ is kicking ass!
"Makin' Pylons, Makin' Probes, Fightin' Round The World" - Russell Crowe
babysuperga
Profile Joined November 2011
Vietnam49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 19:02:51
December 05 2011 19:02 GMT
#92
Last week's prediction was incredible, but I don't think it will be this time.
Because I don't think CJ Entus is unbeatable like that :d
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#93
On December 06 2011 01:30 gen.Sun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


It's because you're not the target market. Girls are the target market.

i blame k-pop for that
Stork[gm]
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 05 2011 19:28 GMT
#94
On December 05 2011 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
my dick is so hard right now


lol my... blood flow exactly.
enslaved[t]
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway46 Posts
December 05 2011 19:38 GMT
#95
Hey, I'd like to say that I first got into this community via Starcraft 2, and I thought BW was not so entertaining mostly due to the graphics really. But every time I read these sick write ups I wish I got into the BW community aswell, I know all the teams and most of their players, but what I'm wondering if there is a place where I can watch the BW vods with English casters?
Thanks in advance : )
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
December 05 2011 20:11 GMT
#96
On December 06 2011 04:38 enslaved[t] wrote:
Hey, I'd like to say that I first got into this community via Starcraft 2, and I thought BW was not so entertaining mostly due to the graphics really. But every time I read these sick write ups I wish I got into the BW community aswell, I know all the teams and most of their players, but what I'm wondering if there is a place where I can watch the BW vods with English casters?
Thanks in advance : )


The wonderful Sayle is doing English casts on a regular basis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286288

We plan to make that more well known in coming updates.
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 05 2011 20:25 GMT
#97
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Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
December 05 2011 20:57 GMT
#98
Great write up, thank you so much for the time and effort you put in.
Rose my color is and white, pretty mouth and green my eyes.
KRaver
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1264 Posts
December 05 2011 21:01 GMT
#99
Awesome write up !
Duo Maxwell: If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#100
Nice, a finals rematch!

SKT!
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