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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 02 2010 02:22 GMT
#41
So excited for this. Staying up and enjoying it
Life is Good.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#42
COOL HWAITING, I am hoping for a 4-2 or 4-3 for cool 4-1 for either side (or 4-0) would just be too boring. Also, having a zerg win would be awesome because Terran seemed too popular and overpowered at the moment.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Pandu1986
Profile Joined June 2010
72 Posts
October 02 2010 02:27 GMT
#43
OH man these are going to be some epic finals.


Both players are amazing, and after all the ranting that fruitdealer did earlier, he seems to be playing spectacularly well. (It makes me wonder what level those practice partners of his must be if he was only averaging like 10% win rate against them!!!! )

I am really rooting for Cool to win this, even though Rainbow is an amazing terran, I just want to see Cool win, he seems to have really turned the whole dynamic of ZVT or ZVP on its head.

When I watched his games I didnt get the sense of a weak zerg or an under powered zerg, just a very "zergy" zerg. Especially after he had brought up his econ to be able to produce out of his hatchs.

Anyways for those of you who are like tl;dr : Cool is amazing.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 02 2010 02:31 GMT
#44
omfg its in less than 6 hours. so PUMPED for this!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
October 02 2010 02:33 GMT
#45
This just doesnt hype my up like a Jaedong vs Flash finals, or hell, even a Calm was Kwanro final...
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
October 02 2010 02:42 GMT
#46
Besides Tester, is there even another Korean Protoss who is on level with the best Western Protoss players? I honestly think Korean Protoss as a whole are a step below their Western counterparts, which explains the dismal showing at GSL1. I guess the question will be answered in GSL2 when HuK shows up.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 02:46:49
October 02 2010 02:45 GMT
#47
re: GSL The Numbers

I'm not sure you can claim imbalance by dismissing Cool from the statistics. That's like trying to prove that black people can't play golf and then when someone says 'what about Tiger Woods' you say he doesn't count because he's an outlier.

Obviously there are a lot of strong reasons to believe that Zerg is underpowered, but you can't just dismiss one player's results entirely from the equation. If one player is able to do well with Zerg then that has to be taken into account into any balance discussion.

m40
Profile Joined August 2010
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 02:52:44
October 02 2010 02:49 GMT
#48
is there a map pool posted somewhere for the finals tonight?

edit: nvm I found it
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
October 02 2010 02:49 GMT
#49
FRUIT DEALER FIGHTING!!!
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
October 02 2010 02:50 GMT
#50
If you're going to remove the top outliers, you have to remove the bottom outliers as well.
Proof by Legislation: An entire body of (sort-of) elected officials is more correct than all of the known laws of physics, math and science as a whole. -Scott McIntyre
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
October 02 2010 02:53 GMT
#51
Cool Fighting ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

May the queen of blades be with you !
Immortal or no Immortal, that is the question ! Someone give me a hamlet skull !
Count_Waltz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States48 Posts
October 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#52
Hot_Bid, you so sick!!! I love your writeups! :p
sono me ni kizame ko na
SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
October 02 2010 02:59 GMT
#53
.....I am so for rainbow....Never for anyone that whines about a race being UP
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
October 02 2010 02:59 GMT
#54
RAINBOW FIGHTING! (:
pencilcase
Profile Joined September 2007
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 03:04:13
October 02 2010 03:03 GMT
#55
On October 02 2010 11:42 Ocedic wrote:
Besides Tester, is there even another Korean Protoss who is on level with the best Western Protoss players? I honestly think Korean Protoss as a whole are a step below their Western counterparts, which explains the dismal showing at GSL1. I guess the question will be answered in GSL2 when HuK shows up.

Huk lost to Artosis in the IEM, who wass eliminated in the Round of 64 in the GSL. The second place finisher Idra, also lost to a Mid-level Protoss in the Round of 32. Not direct evidence, but the results do provide some insight nonetheless.
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 03:06:53
October 02 2010 03:05 GMT
#56
Thing is, that same mid-level protoss went on to lose because of terrible, terrible force-field placement. There seems to be a very strong correlation between bad force-fields, and defeat in TvP in the GSL.

He wasn't at all better then Idra mechanically - Idra failing to scout 6 o'clock main for 15 minutes is what lost him the game.
Proof by Legislation: An entire body of (sort-of) elected officials is more correct than all of the known laws of physics, math and science as a whole. -Scott McIntyre
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
October 02 2010 03:08 GMT
#57
Tonight's gonna be epic... thanks for the recap!! I don't think anyone expected Cool to get this far
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 02 2010 03:24 GMT
#58
Can't wait!
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 02 2010 03:29 GMT
#59
oh man best MU I could have hoped for
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 02 2010 03:29 GMT
#60
Gotta finish this manuscript before the games start.... only 5:30 left.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
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