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Nemy was planning to pull out. Doesn't matter if he does. that's the problem :3
if mafia were co-ordinated, a double townie lynch was game over, and they were a single vote away from getting it. The way the lists are stacked now its obvious who's mafia and who's not.
I mean, c'mon guys.
NOT voting for double lynch when we sacrificed SO much to be able to throw 2 out in a row to cut down KP?
Shoulda been a big "lol we got handed a list of mafia" sign.
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Also: tricode, you're fucking stupid. :3
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On May 24 2009 14:43 Bockit wrote: What do people think about dt roleclaiming to get elected?
Perfectly valid gambit. Never works. Huge power play if it does.
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On May 24 2009 14:44 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2009 14:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 24 2009 14:41 Incognito wrote:On May 24 2009 14:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 24 2009 14:38 Incognito wrote: L you're stupid.
Also why didn't I die? You were being semi manipulated by showtime, and we knew he had been checked and flipped green (thanks nemy), then coupled with the fact for awhile we thought you were the second vet Apparently MBH didn't think that... He actually fished the info of your role out of someone, I believe the concensus was that you were vet at first then nemy goof fuck revealed it or you did to mbh. Was more of a fishing expo, we didnt actually know you were the other dt till the beginning of day 3 nemY I hate you....or is it my fault? *edit Also why give up...I don't see how you guys would have lost even with vivis death...
.I don't see how you guys would have lost even with vivis death... The vote train and voting activity was BLATANT.
they were obviously trying the all-in push we did day 5 last game, but it failed.
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We lost mayor in mafia 2 because of inactivity of 3 members, so I know how you're feeling.
Its seriously rage material when you know the game's over, but you're on the wrong side because one person just afk'd.
I was pretty fucking raged when I overslept the night I was killed. I had SO much more information to pass onto people : (.
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That's why i switched the vig to him. I figured MBH would be killed 100% the next day because if i died it was so obvious he was mafia.
In all fairness, there was a HUGE bandwagon attempt, but town should be running the numbers on their chances of survival to see how ambitious mafia are going to be with the votes.
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Because if he wasn't mafia, he was very useful to us. If he was, he would die the next day.
When MBH told me he was done clue analysis, I figured "mafia know me, I die tonight" or "solid mafia leads" tomorrow. I started setting up people who i was certain were blue with information, but since i kinda got back late, i couldn't give everyone the full story.
I really didn't expect the hit on dreamflower, but in retrospect that was one of my large mistakes: i should have realized that if blue, a confirmed townie essentially ended the game, and that it would have been a priority hit for mafia.
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I was going to have you killed on day 3, but I died. You/Showtime, actually.
Was a very good choice killing me when you did.
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On May 24 2009 18:03 Ace wrote: Yea, Scamp woulda been hard to implicate as he really seemed like a clueless player.
I disagree. His activity and voting record were very, very strong pointers against him.
But that's coming from the only guy to actually say shit about him, so I'm probably wrong on that point ^_^.
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Yeah, town activity just fucking dropped off a cliff day 3. You guys had a WALL of information staring you in the face.
Then again, when you have a player like tricode making himself an obvious quickstriker-like retard target...
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On May 25 2009 10:45 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 08:56 L wrote: Yeah, town activity just fucking dropped off a cliff day 3. You guys had a WALL of information staring you in the face.
Then again, when you have a player like tricode making himself an obvious quickstriker-like retard target... Why do you even speak? Please man up and just say you screwed up in the game and stop trying to point fingers by saying I was the stupid one. I don't know why you keep trying to make me look stupid. You have hardly anyone agreeing with you. So I request you please stop. Pretty sure all the decent players agree you played terribly.
:3
Deal with it.
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On May 25 2009 13:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 11:53 Showtime! wrote:On May 25 2009 04:52 Ace wrote: @Showtime!
You guys were a lot farther from the win than you think. The game only tipped when you and MBH came out in public and started posting.
Before that, if anyone was paying attention you guys pretty much had no chance to win because you were too exposed. Once Ver died - you, Caller, and BC were all out in the open.
Also lol @ blue sniping: look at what MBH just posted. Come on man how many times do I have to tell you guys I don't believe in that shit. If people just stop trying to play the game in PM land and keep their heads in the thread they'd stop fucking themselves and the town over. Do you want to read our MSN chat logs? Matt not only knew who was blue (with the exception of Lucas and MM because there was no way of telling they were BGs), but he knew their exact role. Originally we were going to get Heavon and Tricode. 9v6 or 8v6 (with Cam Modkilled). Do the math and look who was left. It would have been easy. We had everything planned out, so don't give me that whole 'you were far from winning shit.' Qatol was going to end the game as long as we lynched off two greens. End of story. There were too many mishaps and all of us were sick and tired of it. your talking about the very last night, I'm telling you you had it lost days before that. If you really think you had it that easy then you wouldn't have felt the need to quit. you fail. GG. Well, yes and no. If town had 2-3 more players who were active, yes. But they didn't, so no.
Then again, look at the replies here. People are like 'LOL ITS NOT THE TOWN'S JOB TO THINK", "PLEASE GUIDE US IN A SHEEP-LIKE MANNER". Maybe 2-3 people wouldn't have done anything afterall :3.
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On May 26 2009 00:49 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 17:43 L wrote:On May 25 2009 10:45 Tricode wrote:On May 25 2009 08:56 L wrote: Yeah, town activity just fucking dropped off a cliff day 3. You guys had a WALL of information staring you in the face.
Then again, when you have a player like tricode making himself an obvious quickstriker-like retard target... Why do you even speak? Please man up and just say you screwed up in the game and stop trying to point fingers by saying I was the stupid one. I don't know why you keep trying to make me look stupid. You have hardly anyone agreeing with you. So I request you please stop. Pretty sure all the decent players agree you played terribly. :3 Deal with it. Yet I think they can probably agree I did better then you :3 so stop take a breath and realize that FAIL and you are the same thing. Not because you played horribly but because of what you are trying to do right now with me. Once again. I ask you to take it like a man and shut the fuck up. Go think about your damn mistakes. That's what I will be doing. Negative.
I pinned you as a stupid townie, didn't I? :3
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On May 26 2009 04:20 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2009 03:24 L wrote:On May 26 2009 00:49 Tricode wrote:On May 25 2009 17:43 L wrote:On May 25 2009 10:45 Tricode wrote:On May 25 2009 08:56 L wrote: Yeah, town activity just fucking dropped off a cliff day 3. You guys had a WALL of information staring you in the face.
Then again, when you have a player like tricode making himself an obvious quickstriker-like retard target... Why do you even speak? Please man up and just say you screwed up in the game and stop trying to point fingers by saying I was the stupid one. I don't know why you keep trying to make me look stupid. You have hardly anyone agreeing with you. So I request you please stop. Pretty sure all the decent players agree you played terribly. :3 Deal with it. Yet I think they can probably agree I did better then you :3 so stop take a breath and realize that FAIL and you are the same thing. Not because you played horribly but because of what you are trying to do right now with me. Once again. I ask you to take it like a man and shut the fuck up. Go think about your damn mistakes. That's what I will be doing. Negative. I pinned you as a stupid townie, didn't I? :3 I'm done with this game. If you feel that accomplished that you pinned me down as a townie, congrats and big deal? You accomplished nothing. I am going to ignore your posts about me now. This is getting no where and I'm sure others are getting annoyed. This very auto-aggressive defence when criticized is exactly what I'm talking about. It makes you too suspicious as a townie, and sets you up for a mafia seeded fake clue interpretation or behavioral analysis.
Its really quite difficult when sniffing out mafia to have to sift through townies that are self incriminating.
That's not to say that you were the only one to play poorly. I should have kept my prot on dreamflower, bockit played fairly poorly. incognito played poorly, ver played absolutely terribly, etc. Ace played his role perfectly well and we provided a massive amount of information for the town.
For instance, Reading objectively: We set a plan in motion to get 2 sequential double lynches in motion, right? We sacrificed a lot to get it set up, but then on day 3 there's a massive streak of people who don't vote for double, and the issue of double is not brought up in the thread at all? That should have been a KLAXON of "dem fukerz is mafia" blaring into your ear.
I mean, there's so much more, SO much more information that was out there during day 3, but its like people just didn't want to bother reading the thread.
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On May 26 2009 09:07 Camlito wrote: I think i helped alot. MVP.
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On May 26 2009 07:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:L, after all the shit we kept spewing, bumping pages of new posts, who wants to go back and re-read hehe Yeah, this is why I say I vastly overestimated the skill of the town. There were maybe 2-3 important posts per page and its rather easy to zoom in on them.
When I gave the town the method of searching for specific posts, I figured they would use that to cross check what confirmed innocents were saying.
I also assumed that the town would specifically look at the last incriminations I made.
-> Scamp -> Showtime! -> nemY (which i revoked right before the vote b/c I was hoping that pointing a finger at him would make him less likely to get hit, and I had like 4 targets I wanted to keep up).
Overall, this game really drove home how marketing you need to be. Just throw some fucking colours into your post and call people idiots when they're making perfectly rational and logical analysis.
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Well, it was the case.
Typically town members die off in larger numbers early because mafia are steering people and keeping their heads down and there's very little in the way of clue continuity. Day 1 gives nearly zero and the mayoral lynch is always off, Day 2 gives the first series of real clues. Day 3 you guys fucked up and lost. I don't see many games in which mafia get consistently hit during day 1 or 2. Time is always against mafia; more clues, more vote lists, more posts = more evidence and more accurate shots.
I mean, what exactly are you trying to say? That the town could not have possibly seen through what was happening day 3?
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