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The town dispersed once more, fleeing for the safety. 1. Some went to their homes, others to places they believed to be safe. Everyone thought they were safe, the clock had struck 2, and no sounds were yet to be heard, all was clear this night. [/b] Repetition of safe, potentially 2 o'clock are non clues With that in mind, Rage and truthbringer left the bar they had been hiding in. Rage walked down the street, gun in hand, with truthbringer following closely behind. As rage turned onto the block in which he lived, he heard a 2. grunt from behind him, he turned and leveling his gun, saw 3. a garrote wire around Truthbringers neck, and a figure standing closely behind him. He darted to the side to get a better shot, only 4. to feel something slam into the back of his left leg, dropping him to the ground, as he turned his head to the side, he caught a quick glimpse of a man swinging a long object, caving rage head in. 5. Quickly thereafter truthbringer head rolled across the sidewalk. 2. Grunt: Manly type man? Rugged? Warcraft 3 grunt? Orc? Can't speak? 3. Garrote wire: Fairly brutal, choking -> leads to 5. Decapitation 4. Long object kneecaps, then crushes rage's skull. 2 mafia here. Choking Grunt and Head Caver Across town, Fakesteve[tpr], amber[light], and infundibulum were staked out inside fakesteve’s house. The three had each taken up guard at different points in the house to prevent being hit. Fakesteve was in the living room, behind a couch, gun pointed at the largest window, waiting for mafia to attempt to enter. Amber[light] was at the top of the stairs with a rifle aimed at the front door, and Infundibulum had a shotgun aimed at the backdoor. The three waited in silence, for any sound of an attack. Amber[light] was the first to hear a sound, and slowly turning, he heard a creaking sound from a room down the hall. Cautiously he investigated, and slid into the room. He saw Fakesteve’s computer on, which he knew had been turned off hours earlier, so he moved around the room, looking for signs of entry. 6. As he passed the desk he noticed a weird phrase on the screen. As amber[light] looked down from the computer, he noticed a figure under the desk, and a metal glint in his hand. Two silent shots later, amber[light] collapsed to the ground, and the man fired another shot into the body’s head for good measure. 6. Incomprehensible strikes again with 3 shots. They were silent and he takes precautions by shooting the head. Professional? Safe? This is probably the candidate we have the most information on, and I think we can pull something out of incomprehensible phrase since its likely to be directly related to someone's name, profile or signature. Infundibulum heard a thud from upstairs, and slowly started to back up, moving for the staircase to check on his friend. As he turned to the staircase, he noticed a man 7. staring at him from the kitchen, he moved forward weapon in hand, and charged, and let a shot fire. The cupboards splintered open, and the man ducked to the side, and 8 .flew his arm out to the side waving an object at Infundibulum, with a wicked smile on his face. As the man hit the floor, infundibulum reloaded, then moving forward again, 9. slipped on the debris on the ground, and dropped his gun, which hit the ground and fired, shredding Infundibulum’s chest. 7. Alright, so the guy is patient, or is a stalker of some sort. Maybe a link to a picture in which the person is staring or an emoticon with large eyes. 8. Man waves some fucking object? 9. Trips and falls. 8. & 9. Lead me to believe that Stalker's weapon is something which can trip people, and that it can be waved. I was thinking it was ball bearings or something originally but that can't really be waved. I'd like to hear other opinions on this one because I think there's a lot of potential here. Fakesteve[tpr] never had a chance to retaliate; he turned towards the kitchen at the sound of 10. shotgun fire, only to be enveloped in a black shroud. He felt an object glide through his shoulder and down to his heart, and something probe his jacket pockets before the void took him. 10. Alright, we have a: -shotgun -shroud-> potentially linked to the fact that he just got shotgunned, or maybe his face was bagged -something that can cut through a shoulderblade straight to the heart (which would be fucking difficult with a conventional weapon) -and the guy fucking robs him. Seems like a highway robber type. Three blocks away, Ace was gathering his things, and then lifting a hood over his head, he left his house, in search of clues towards the mafia hidden in the town. As he left his house, he saw [b 11. ]a man, eyes wide open, shakily level a machine gun. Moment’s later ace was dead. 11. Wide eyes. shaky hands. An addict? A sugar high? Excitable? Sick? Showtime! and laxercannon headed for the gunshots, hoping to be able to save whomever they could. As they ran, they saw a man 12. hiccupping and swaying moving towards them. Showtime moved to see if he was ok, and moved his hands to steady him, the next thing Showtime! knew, he had a knife stuck in his chest. Laxercannon turned, and drawing a knife of his own 13. he moved to attack the man, only to stop dead, as an arrow pierced his neck. As laxercannon fell, he saw a man stepping out of a nearby alley. 12. Drunk with a knife. Hobo? Someone drinking in their profile picture? Reference to alcohol? 13. Archer from the dark. Arrows and colour juxtaposed. Seems accurate, hides in alleys: maybe someone down on his luck? | ||
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Why the fuck is that blog entry the majority of the activity in the past ... like 3 hours? Goddamit. | ||
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We can't just decide to continue to be disorganized and hope for chance to win this game; we're already behind. I think this is really important. ITS FUCKING DAYTIME, AND WE HAVE A BUNCH OF CLUES STARING US IN THE FACE AND NO ONE'S PRESENTING ANALYSIS. I'm pretty goddam terrible at it, so I decided to highlight clues and brainstorm around them, yet besides for me and one other player there's ZERO clue discussion going on and activity is near zero. Like, I'm ANGRY about this. We asked for people to only sign up if they'd have time. I CHECKED THIS FUCKING THREAD WHILE I WAS IN THE EXAM ROOM WRITING A FINAL (lol laptops) and other people have the balls to vote and never post here? I mean shit, either there are some AWESOME underground PM rings going down or the town is fucked. Can we get inactive players booted out? Can we replace them with people who actually want to play? | ||
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Its so simple, and yet fits so well. His location is valhalla, so he's a 'viking' which explains the brutality. His weapon is his fucking guitar. And the best part? He is probably a vigilante from the way the day 2 clues were set out. | ||
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The caving in of heads: Viking. This is airtight. I haven't seen a single other profile point towards something even remotely as directly as this has. | ||
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Fakesteve is dead and Rage was the vigilante. | ||
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what good is that when he can be a mafia himself, What good is the role in general? I was under the impression that we need him to double lynch, but according to the main page there's no such requirement. Mayor is basically a townie with 3 votes who picks the first day lynch. We don't really lose anything by killing him.By lynching Qatol, we will have more information gained than from lynching any other suspects. Well, what exactly does it tell us. I keep hearing people saying "we'll know more when we kill XYZ", but then no one actually explains that information. | ||
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There was NO logic in hitting Ace. I exchanged a couple PMs with Ace just before he died where I said I'm not really suspicious of him, but actually I was sure he's not Mafia (I know his style somewhat myself, and NO way did that warrant a hit). Lynching QS over Qatol was the icing on the cake. The only positive thing we can find from it, is to look at his hidden supporters (not OPEN supporters, but people who tried to sway the vote away from him WITHOUT directly supporting him in the process), but that's about it. Well, I think you're smashing caller a bit too hard. His move was somewhat reasonable given the way ace was playing and the accusations from Versatile who flipped green. That said, caller could have been mafia and used the hit to conceal himself, but if no clues stick to him tomorrow, we can assume he is indeed blue. That said, the Uff Da clumsy killer clue is a pretty solid link to Qatol, but I'm not sure exactly what we gain by killing him immediately, given that we can force his 3 votes to pad a votelist for someone the town agrees upon, and if he disagrees we simply move to lynch him. I'm around 90% certain Qatol is mafia at this point, so only a 100% sure kill would dissuade me. If the only person we can agree upon is Qatol, which is likely, we can just hang him, but tomorrow our DTs are going to come out or find a mouthpiece, and we might have a number of cluechecked 100% certain mafia to kill. Either way, people who have been PMing Qatol role information need to stop, and the medics need to pick their own targets to protect. Ver: you might have a point about the rivalry between families, especially with the town this weak, but I think there are too many assumptions in your analysis. For one, you assume that the opposing team recognizes Qatol as the head of a mafia family. Second you assume that the families are content with their situation regarding the town and aren't working together. Third you ignore the CKs in your mafia family size analysis. The CKs, from my analysis at the outset, are likely going to be allied with the mafia at this point because of their strength relative to ours, but which family? Would they have contacted Qatol? Would he have told them he was mafia? Unlikely given that we've seen a number of people obviously fishing in PMs. Also: Can someone explain why people are balls out for LordWeird? | ||
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@L: Here are the posts I mentioned in response to your question Thanks, I was under the impression that the clue check was for how incomprehensible Uff Da was, but I wanted to be sure. Thanks for clearing that up for me.The LordWeird connection seems a bit trivial, but that's just me. @ L: Mafia wouldn't be working together if they knew each other/suspected each other. It doesn't work. Since they know they can be killed any time by the other opposing team, you'd pretty much have to kill them if you know them. I only like to assume things when the individual axiomic assumptions have merit. In the current instance, even if ver is right and we're dealing with 15 mafia players with a kp of 6 combined, if mafia cannibalize each other early, they will lose. There is no way of winning the game if mafia start hitting each other. Your conclusion rests on an assumption which cannot be the case, so I can't agree with your argumentation. Qatol and JeeJee are mafia I honestly don't think JeeJee is mafia and I think you've improperly rushed to conclusions about him. Qatol very well might be, however. I could be wrong; I have been before. Our only confirmed mafia -> player behavioral connection was bockit deflecting attention from retardstriker, so mafia are obviously throwing up red herrings to keep us wasting time. I was one of the first people to say so, but no one really listened to that. Our only other connection was the proven innocent versatile calling out ace, and THAT was false as well. So our support/condemn information really hasn't payed off for us yet, so I'd caution against using it as a key piece of information in getting someone hung. | ||
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What???? Are you trying to SOUND smart? Not really, but I get that a lot. How is there no way of winning the game if mafia hit each other? Durr, the town wins instantly and the mafia die. From their perspective THEY CANNOT WIN if they start killing each other. That means they WON'T. You, however, have assumed that mafia will not trade information because that will automatically lead to such killing and I've said that's not the case because its not a smart move from either mafia team to start shit with the other. Basically it works like this: If both mafia teams know each other on day 1 you've stated that they will hit each other immediately. If that's the case, the town wins almost instantly: 6 mafia die the first day, which represents up to half of the total mafia on the game. It isn't favorable for either mafia team to move against the other until the town is out of the way. Since that's the case, and you've assumed the opposite, I can't agree with your conclusion. Both mafia families can't work together since they would be forced to kill each other if they ever got the feeling anyone was a member of the other mafia family. See, they're forced to kill each other regardless near the end of the game, but while the town represents a larger threat than the other team, they have more incentive to work together, because otherwise NEITHER OF THEM have the possibility of winning. If both families share information, both families are in the same position regarding information the other team has. Neither family gains a net advantage against the other. Since they won't be killing off opposing mafia, they maximize their anti-town kp and increase their collective chances against the town, so mafia makes a NET GAIN in their chances if they share information. Not only CAN the mafia work together, but its in their favor if they do. Assuming they aren't taking the best action they can is somewhat wishful thinking. This is really simple logic. Take a three player free for all in your favorite RTS: its ALWAYS in the best interest of the two weaker players to team up to knock down the stronger player, because 1) if they attack each other instead, the stronger player's advantage over them increases and 2) if one allies with the stronger player, his position relative to the stronger player is unchanged after they wipe out the third party, putting him at a disadvantage. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding you had regarding my logic. | ||
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I'm going to sleep. | ||
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Gimme a bit to read over what's going on. | ||
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save the cheerleader, save the world. No one likes heroes. Get off the stage. | ||
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