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On March 19 2009 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: could just take the hit i sent In instead haha. Omg you edgy comedian, you! If you turn out to be mafia, I'll get you for this taunt! I'll... I'll... I don't know what I'll do! *shakes fisticuff*
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On March 19 2009 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: He asked us to submit who we would have lynched if we were chosen as mayor, i said Rice for being inactive, I said as much in here. I know, I also sent one in for Pika Chu in case I won. But if you were mafia it could be a cruel joke at our expense.
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Well I don't know that there would be multiple clues to one persyn, but the more possible clues a character links to the more possibility they are being hinted at in at least one of them. Also, it seems there are only clues for about 3-5 people or at least it doesn't seem like 10 people's worth of clues so maybe Chuiu is taking it slower day 1.
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lol Guess semioldguy is asleep. it is 11 pm in his time zone...
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Hmm I dunno why the mafia would want to kill one of its own this early; I dunno what the Truthbringer story is. You can't really kill one of your own to get accolades and get elected because it can't be verified until after the election. And no plans have been decided on to infiltrate.
That said I think I am in a shitty double bind tonight. Either Pika Chu is mafia and the mafia think I'm a good clue analyzer and they are going to kill me or Pika Chu isn't a mafia but the mafia thinks I'm good and they'll kill me or Pika Chu isn't mafia and I suck . I guess Pika Chu could be mafia and the mafia could still think I suck. Lol this game makes me so paranoid.
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Your post made me laugh Mandalor, gj.
I love how he says "In my experience, it's usually the mafia that explicitly defends a quality of the mafia" even though the only game he's played was Ace's Mafia World (I assume, with how low his post count is) and he was mafia in that game.
I guess it is this one game of experience that gives him the idea that all mafia post once in a blue moon like he did.
I frickin' hope he's not in a mafia irc again, that was such a lame maneuver; it wasn't even an awesome infiltration, he just used a script to auto join channels all new channels before they could be password protected.
Also, if I remember correctly Ace thought the irc infiltration was a bit lame which makes me wonder why the hell he would support MrBabyMan from the very beginning of this game off of like 2 crazy posts.
Rereading MBH's analysis, it looks even more laughable. And yet so many votes from Class-S players like Ace, Caller, Ver, etc. Flying fuck fish that seems weird to me. And yet I don't think he's mafia and I think there must be a method to this madness. I say I don't think he's mafia because I don't think these great players would vote for him and keep their votes on him if they were in the mafia with him even when he started losing, although it would look weird to switch. Maybe these good players are mafia and MrBabyMan isn't and they put their votes on him thinking he couldn't win and would be a safe / unsuspicious place to put votes? Or maybe they are mafia and the mafia has multiple candidates? (I think it would be a devastating strategy for the mafia in this ruleset to make multiple candidates early in order to discourage others from running since they think there are enough candidates already and whichever mafia wins will be cloaked by the office from DTs) My guess... either those good players voting for MBH are doing so to keep a low profile (since they placed their vote somewhere that couldn't win, although they could all be mafia that were hoping for a last minute bandwagon since that sometimes gets inactives' votes at the last minute) which they could be doing so either as mafia or just skilled blue/greens that have to do everything they can to lay low and avoid mafia hits. OR even most likely, MBH is a smurf they trust, maybe a higher-up from SC2GG or GG or something (that may have been confirmed during Ace's Mafia World, I think moletrap or pretzel or klazart or some people(s) were in that game; maybe that is the explanation).
I'm so wishy-washy and have no idea what's going on. It's a good thing I didn't get elected I drank too much caffeine again and can't think straight.
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On March 19 2009 17:32 Ace wrote: Mr.BabyHands is a mafia player from another website that I invited last game. I voted for him because I put his game playing ability on the same level as pretty much any top-tier Mafia player here. Secondly, I never said the IRC infiltration was lame. I was actually somewhat indifferent to it ^_^
We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused. Alright, thanks for clarification.Yeah, it was legit but awfully frustrating, especially because I never even used the irc.
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On March 19 2009 17:34 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 17:32 Ace wrote: Mr.BabyHands is a mafia player from another website that I invited last game. I voted for him because I put his game playing ability on the same level as pretty much any top-tier Mafia player here. Secondly, I never said the IRC infiltration was lame. I was actually somewhat indifferent to it ^_^
We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused. this he is a very strong player, as I recall from Ace's mafia game. What did he do other than the irc thing?
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Ok I reviewed his ace's mafia world showing and basically he stayed quiet, hit on girls, and scripted his way into irc. Probably the most sure-fire way to win. Too bad I'm so hyperactive that if I try to take a low profile I look weird as hell. Maybe I'll try to discipline myself next game. Ah well.
Pyrrhuloxia: Making sure no one else is the last poster for more than 30 seconds since 2008!
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On March 19 2009 17:54 Pika Chu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 10:26 fusionsdf wrote:On March 19 2009 09:41 Pika Chu wrote: I change my vote for BloodyC0bbler.
It looks like i'm going to be the first lynched. After you'll see i'm innocent i hope you will grow up and stop being so naive.
Honestly, all the "clues" and connections that point me are very very forced. How is in any way better to lynch me if you think i'm more innocent than guilty? I mean it makes absolutely no sense since you are loosing one of your own, and the purpose is to kill mafia not kill your own just because it's the only one who has some weak clues pointing to him.
And you don't even know my role, so you are risking killing a medic, or a bodyguard or a vigilante just because you have no better alternative. Basically risk loosing the game because you can't simply think outside the box and step by the first evidence you were given.
And for those telling me to find clues. I honestly don't want to blame anyone. The only thing Pyrr did was find a clue and try and force connections with someone. I'm not going to try and frame someone like it's been done on me, for the sole purpose of not wanting to be found guilty when you'll be lynching one of ours because of my "findings".
Remember guys, it's finding clues, making connections and finding the guy that is hard, not the way around. Finding the guy then making connections and finding clues is the easy way and it's the trap you've been set and most are falling into. look, I don't want you to be lynched. If you want to stay alive, why not due some clue analysis of your own? If someone is a more likely suspect than you then it makes you safer right? I should point out that the first game MTF played this came up and he was about to be lynched. We encouraged to save himself, and he did by posting amazing clue analyses. Don't get mad at us if you get lynched; its because you didnt put enough effort into keeping yourself alive. About the inactives: yes, thats also a good method to lynch on. Does anyone have a list of inactives? Look, i couldn't care less if i get lynched, it's a game and it's the first time i play it. What i do care about is that you aren't thinking. Too many of you aren't reading all the posts and are way too enthusiast when they've been given a track, they even stop questioning over it and just go with the band wagon. And the second problem is, this stupid mentality of blaming someone else. I really really hate this mentality and i believe only retarded people use this who don't have enough integrity to stand on their own feet and you are telling me to use it and find someone to blame? Seriously man what am i, a 10 year kiddo or do i look retarded to you? Now i've realized that most (which have actually voted for pyrr) aren't really looking for clues and don't even care, they are only looking for show. And sorry but i am not willing to contribute to this senseless show, i prefer keeping things simple and honest. It's exactly like politics. Some people really don't give a fuck to what they say, they just watch the show and think "man, he did blame the other one for being a pedo? this guy is cool, i'm voting for him". Take a good look at everyone who voted for pyrr, they aren't interested in reasoning but in bandwagoning the simple stuff. Throw a bone and they'll fetch it, no questions asked.
ur a fuckin pedo
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Oh man, RebirthofLegend has made a few small posts according to BWdero...
In Ace's Mafia World, between sign up and election he made one (possibly 2) tiny posts and was a vigilante...
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On March 19 2009 18:08 Pika Chu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 17:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On March 19 2009 17:54 Pika Chu wrote:On March 19 2009 10:26 fusionsdf wrote:On March 19 2009 09:41 Pika Chu wrote: I change my vote for BloodyC0bbler.
It looks like i'm going to be the first lynched. After you'll see i'm innocent i hope you will grow up and stop being so naive.
Honestly, all the "clues" and connections that point me are very very forced. How is in any way better to lynch me if you think i'm more innocent than guilty? I mean it makes absolutely no sense since you are loosing one of your own, and the purpose is to kill mafia not kill your own just because it's the only one who has some weak clues pointing to him.
And you don't even know my role, so you are risking killing a medic, or a bodyguard or a vigilante just because you have no better alternative. Basically risk loosing the game because you can't simply think outside the box and step by the first evidence you were given.
And for those telling me to find clues. I honestly don't want to blame anyone. The only thing Pyrr did was find a clue and try and force connections with someone. I'm not going to try and frame someone like it's been done on me, for the sole purpose of not wanting to be found guilty when you'll be lynching one of ours because of my "findings".
Remember guys, it's finding clues, making connections and finding the guy that is hard, not the way around. Finding the guy then making connections and finding clues is the easy way and it's the trap you've been set and most are falling into. look, I don't want you to be lynched. If you want to stay alive, why not due some clue analysis of your own? If someone is a more likely suspect than you then it makes you safer right? I should point out that the first game MTF played this came up and he was about to be lynched. We encouraged to save himself, and he did by posting amazing clue analyses. Don't get mad at us if you get lynched; its because you didnt put enough effort into keeping yourself alive. About the inactives: yes, thats also a good method to lynch on. Does anyone have a list of inactives? Look, i couldn't care less if i get lynched, it's a game and it's the first time i play it. What i do care about is that you aren't thinking. Too many of you aren't reading all the posts and are way too enthusiast when they've been given a track, they even stop questioning over it and just go with the band wagon. And the second problem is, this stupid mentality of blaming someone else. I really really hate this mentality and i believe only retarded people use this who don't have enough integrity to stand on their own feet and you are telling me to use it and find someone to blame? Seriously man what am i, a 10 year kiddo or do i look retarded to you? Now i've realized that most (which have actually voted for pyrr) aren't really looking for clues and don't even care, they are only looking for show. And sorry but i am not willing to contribute to this senseless show, i prefer keeping things simple and honest. It's exactly like politics. Some people really don't give a fuck to what they say, they just watch the show and think "man, he did blame the other one for being a pedo? this guy is cool, i'm voting for him". Take a good look at everyone who voted for pyrr, they aren't interested in reasoning but in bandwagoning the simple stuff. Throw a bone and they'll fetch it, no questions asked. ur a fuckin pedo Would you please force some clues on that too?
I'm tempted to, but I want us to be best friends forever <3.
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Also, I don't want to be banned from next game as a troublemaker I want everyone to love me.
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On March 19 2009 18:31 Pika Chu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 18:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On March 19 2009 18:08 Pika Chu wrote:On March 19 2009 17:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On March 19 2009 17:54 Pika Chu wrote:On March 19 2009 10:26 fusionsdf wrote:On March 19 2009 09:41 Pika Chu wrote: I change my vote for BloodyC0bbler.
It looks like i'm going to be the first lynched. After you'll see i'm innocent i hope you will grow up and stop being so naive.
Honestly, all the "clues" and connections that point me are very very forced. How is in any way better to lynch me if you think i'm more innocent than guilty? I mean it makes absolutely no sense since you are loosing one of your own, and the purpose is to kill mafia not kill your own just because it's the only one who has some weak clues pointing to him.
And you don't even know my role, so you are risking killing a medic, or a bodyguard or a vigilante just because you have no better alternative. Basically risk loosing the game because you can't simply think outside the box and step by the first evidence you were given.
And for those telling me to find clues. I honestly don't want to blame anyone. The only thing Pyrr did was find a clue and try and force connections with someone. I'm not going to try and frame someone like it's been done on me, for the sole purpose of not wanting to be found guilty when you'll be lynching one of ours because of my "findings".
Remember guys, it's finding clues, making connections and finding the guy that is hard, not the way around. Finding the guy then making connections and finding clues is the easy way and it's the trap you've been set and most are falling into. look, I don't want you to be lynched. If you want to stay alive, why not due some clue analysis of your own? If someone is a more likely suspect than you then it makes you safer right? I should point out that the first game MTF played this came up and he was about to be lynched. We encouraged to save himself, and he did by posting amazing clue analyses. Don't get mad at us if you get lynched; its because you didnt put enough effort into keeping yourself alive. About the inactives: yes, thats also a good method to lynch on. Does anyone have a list of inactives? Look, i couldn't care less if i get lynched, it's a game and it's the first time i play it. What i do care about is that you aren't thinking. Too many of you aren't reading all the posts and are way too enthusiast when they've been given a track, they even stop questioning over it and just go with the band wagon. And the second problem is, this stupid mentality of blaming someone else. I really really hate this mentality and i believe only retarded people use this who don't have enough integrity to stand on their own feet and you are telling me to use it and find someone to blame? Seriously man what am i, a 10 year kiddo or do i look retarded to you? Now i've realized that most (which have actually voted for pyrr) aren't really looking for clues and don't even care, they are only looking for show. And sorry but i am not willing to contribute to this senseless show, i prefer keeping things simple and honest. It's exactly like politics. Some people really don't give a fuck to what they say, they just watch the show and think "man, he did blame the other one for being a pedo? this guy is cool, i'm voting for him". Take a good look at everyone who voted for pyrr, they aren't interested in reasoning but in bandwagoning the simple stuff. Throw a bone and they'll fetch it, no questions asked. ur a fuckin pedo Would you please force some clues on that too? I'm tempted to, but I want us to be best friends forever <3. <3
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Can't wait for the morning clues - let's keep the pain train rolling!
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On March 20 2009 06:35 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Why did the 4th mafia stay behind? Waiting for Incognito so he could kill him, one could possibly say that he was "lurking"...
mm not bad
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@ Ace I think some townies might not care - there are a lot of inactives every game (some of every role) so not everyone hovers over the game incessantly like I do. I comparison of Mandalor's behavior in this game against previous games could be helpful here.
@ 0cz3c I voted BC because 1. He started running before roles so there's a 1/6.5 chance that he ends up mafia (he could start running before and then stop if he ends up blue/green or red or something [Caller?] based on his thinking so it's not that simple, but it helps a bit). 2. He gave an impressive experienced resume, experience helps a lot in this game - knowing the community is super-important for being successful at Mafia games. 3. I wanted to vote and I wanted to win and I couldn't vote for myself so voting for the persyn with the most support meant I wouldn't vote against myself ending up in the top 2. 4. BC was pretty cautious about plans and picking them apart without being too negative and in general seemed to have the same level of caution I have which was at least a bit reassuring. 5. The main competitor was semioldguy. I don't think the hearing clue is any real strike against him. I don't think he's a noob so the support isn't that surprising. Something about him made me uneasy although I can't remember what now maybe it was that I thought either BC or semioldguy had to be a mafia candidate and I wanted to rationalize my vote I'll think it over more in depth a little later I'm in class now. 6. I didn't understand Mr.BabyHands - I do a lot more now and might have voted for him in retrospect but it was too late - he should've had a campaign announcement that didn't look like a joke if he wanted my vote although I think that type of behaviour ultimately has its strategic value.
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There are plenty of good players who may be green but still much more helpful to the town being alive than dead.
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So if someone gets protected by a medic, the medic and the person they protect know they are both good aligned right? I don't think vigis would use their one kill this early.
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Are we still in agreement vigis should call their hits? I think we've shown they probably shouldn't say who they will attack because the mafia will try to steal their kill but maybe they should say they will hit someone just so we know whether medic protections can be trusted 100% for innocence that night or not.
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