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On March 21 2008 00:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 00:33 fusionsdf wrote:On March 21 2008 00:18 Naib wrote:On March 21 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote:On March 21 2008 00:07 Naib wrote:On March 21 2008 00:03 fusionsdf wrote: so......
we are lynching quiet people to force them to post?
Do you realize how useless a strategy that is?
No, no, no and again a NO! That is not a strategy! That is a strategy for the first lynch only and nothing else. I feel I explained it quite well, feel free to read it all again (Ace can back it up of course, I bet he can form better arguments seeing English is his first language, and not mine ) It doesnt matter what lynching it is its still stupid especially when you have a gift like empyrean A "gift" oh yeah. Definitely. I'd really suggest you to read through the thread again. You obviously dont understand what is going on in this game, so you might as well stop this If you had an argument you would offer it instead of useless sarcasm In his defense, you aren't offering much of an argument either; you didn't even explain your post. Was qrs correct in interpreting what you meant? I have a hard time seeing what sort of gift Empyrean is (besides to the mafia, perhaps, as I for one do not believe he is guaranteed green), but it's possible that I'm miunderstanding something here.
qrs is correct yes.
see:
On March 21 2008 00:03 fusionsdf wrote: so......
we are lynching quiet people to force them to post?
Do you realize how useless a strategy that is?
We only get one/2 lynches a day....and you want to waste them like that.
First, its perfectly possible for mafia to post without seeming suspicious. So by forcing them to post you gain absolutely nothing.
Second, its possible for a townie to post suspiciously. By focusing on it, you confuse the town, and potentially waste future lynches.
Third, In this case, we knew that empyrean was at best a townie. Going after him offers better odds than lynching inactive posters. This was a very rare situatuion. In most cases, Its better to lynch based on clues
Fourth, by lynching based on clues, you narrow the pool of people that clue potentially refers to, and offer yourself the chance to isolate mafia based on clues.
I am glad you dont have control of future lynches. The reasoning for this one was flawed. Lynch because of clues, not posting activity.
This was a mistake
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On March 21 2008 01:10 Mynock wrote: I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here.
Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie.
Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy.
As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it.
Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office.
what guessing would they have to do lol?
empyrean being alive is a much bigger burden for us than for them
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On March 24 2008 08:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Interesting choice, given Ace's explanation for his choice and the towns need to rely on their mayor.
I havent read the past 50 pages since Ive been busy with homework
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On March 24 2008 10:17 Energies wrote: I'm curious to know, if Mafia vote in the vote thread, are their votes counted, or how does that aspect work?
Yeah, they are counted
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On March 24 2008 11:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:PS : I changed my signature again. The one I had when the game started is still available in araav and Sonuvbob's list posts.
obviosly manda whatever is going to get lynched anyways, so I dont see why you should start getting suspicious of people who want to make their own decisions.
its a stupid metric
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so who am I supposed to vote for?
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poor chuiu
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fucking lol. just like itw would have done it
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On April 05 2008 03:56 Ace wrote: The first thing is the PM from New104, he vote checked and found 1 Mafia in the list. The list is:
Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey.
I also got another set of info confirming that these people are all innocent:
MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler
Which shortens our list down to this:
Ace - 7(6) Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) <--innocent Evilmonkey.
bad luck for me
how should I prove my innocence?
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ASCII is Leonidas from Sparta
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Oh, since this developent makes it advantageous for me:
Do you have any questions? Why the strange behavior? Why did I do this or that etc?
Ask me. I will tell you. I plan to have a huge update out before tonight anyways so I'm not really worried about dying.
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On April 05 2008 19:44 Plexa wrote: fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on
why no analysis this game?
2 reasons.
1, putting myself forward as mayor at the beginning of the game was an extremely high risk move. By doing so, I put myself forward as a leader type, and if I didnt get mayor or pardoner, it was extremely likely I would be high enough on the threat list (especially with the lack of development) that I would die on the first day cycle.
As soon as I realised that it was unlikely I would become mayor, it was then the smartest move for me to prevent myself from getting on the list and then gain as much time as possible to gather clues.
The initial goal was to post a list after two cycles since that should be enough to create a list, but I've been busy.
In order to survive to do that I had to lay low, and make it so other people were more attractive mafia targets.
That's why I did the whole thing with shallow and made a whole bunch of nonsense posts. I wanted to come off to both the town and the mafia as a rogue element - not annoying enough to be killed off, but not helpful enough to get killed that way either.
but you'll see a post from me tonight :D
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even if it seems obvious, Im the only suspect who is about to provide clues.... it looks like Im safe today, but to the people voting me:
I'm the only suspect about to provide lots of clues. Let me go tonight. If what I provide isnt good enough, you can always lynch me next time.
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mafia are more likely to be active and lynch vote, no?
shouldnt the list of people who voted be those more likely to have roles (mafia or town)?
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On April 07 2008 05:04 ~OpZ~ wrote: Yes and no...The dude running the mafia last game didn't post much...if at all...kinda like you lol...
patience
I'll be releasing a mega-post right before next day cycle
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I dont know, but Im glad
if hes mafia, it moves five people into the innocent pool
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eh?
isnt mandalor mr blue?
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yeah reposting all the dt lists would be awesome
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not trying to post clues or anything, this post is just out of boredom
chuiu needs to pick the left side more often
he mentions right 13 times, but only 3 times for left
Up is used 42 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 5 : [2,3]Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 19 : [2,10]They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Line 31 : [2,16]They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. Line 37 : [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. Line 39 : [2,20]They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 63 : [2,32]They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 105 : [2,53]Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Line 107 : [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 15 : [3,8]Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Line 29 : [3,15]As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 45 : [3,23]He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 67 : [3,34]As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 105 : [3,52]"Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. Line 109 : [3,54]But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 3 : [4,2]They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 19 : [4,10]Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 41 : [4,21]Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. Line 55 : [4,28]He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. Line 73 : [4,37]He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around.
Down is mentioned 21 times + Show Spoiler + Line 1 : [1,1]The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Line 77 : [2,39]He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Line 101 : [2,51]He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. Line 19 : [3,10]Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 39 : [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. Line 55 : [3,28]Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 87 : [3,44]In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 99 : [3,49]LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 21 : [4,11]Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 49 : [4,25]He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Line 51 : [4,26]Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. Line 59 : [4,30]Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do.
The ground is mentioned 23 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 34 : [1,17]He sprinted to the window to his right and broke through it, knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall. Line 40 : [1,20]Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 85 : [2,43]With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 89 : [2,45]Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Line 97 : [2,49]Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 31 : [3,16]Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Line 59 : [3,30]As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 91 : [3,46]"LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. Line 119 : [3,59]ShadowDrgn lay stunned on the ground and Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. Line 17 : [4,9]"Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Line 33 : [4,17]King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away.
------ whereas the sky is never mentioned, neither is heaven, neither are stars, moon is mentioned once [2,2] and sun isnt ever mentioned either. neat.
if you want me to search for specific words or phrases, go ahead and post them
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one: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 52 : [1,26]They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. {three other times as a component}
two: -9 + Show Spoiler + Line 44 : [1,22]Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Line 23 : [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Line 45 : [2,23]NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 11 : [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. Line 75 : [3,38]He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 107 : [3,53]He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work.
three: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [4,19]He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway.
four: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 49 : [2,25]He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. Line 65 : [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Line 75 : [2,38]Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. Line 81 : [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. Line 23 : [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
five: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate.
six: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.
seven: -0 + Show Spoiler + eight: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 16 : [1,8]DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good.
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want to know something cool?
-ARMY [3,26]JeeJee not yet ||armed|| himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the ||armory.|| [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies ||assault.|| [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier ||assaulting|| his house. [2,37]No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ||ready to fight an army if one would present itself.|| [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men ||intercepted|| them. [4,24]Kau assumed he had ||encroached on the wrong territory|| as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. [2,58]Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he ||motioned everyone to retreat.|| =AMBUSH [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. [3,9]Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. =DEFENSE DEFENDED [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, ||defended him|| and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. =SURRENDER [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire.
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