EPTOn June 27 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
Yes but assuming you have a bunch of mia scum friends suddenly show up to move there vote and then town catches you? You're fucked.
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On June 27 2019 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the thing imo is that there is no information to be gained from a town lynch on D1. Literally. Whoever claims otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Had town lynched let's say me, they cannot still know if my reads are good or not (usually the reads are not believed because if they were why would you lynch me in the first place if my reads are good?). Noone can know if the people who switched are town or mafia and if they can explain their motivation reasonably, you have no way telling if they were jsut wrong or if they are mafia.
TLDR; it doesn't really matter if your team dedicates onto a town lynch D1, especially since the game is 8v3 which makes it D3 lylo. It's better to just keep town in the dark (aka lynch townies) that to try get credit bussing your teammates because otherwise you might get caught some other day.
On June 27 2019 15:31 Eversince wrote:
m!Pand switches off Slam, m!Kels pulls off Slam. Your entire team just got dedicated to moving the lynch off Slam. Town lynches one of you. Even with a town on the wagon, hard to put the rest together?
(I'm bad at analisis so excuse me if I come off at short, please I don't mean too.)
On June 27 2019 15:24 Trfel wrote:
On June 27 2019 15:17 Eversince wrote:
Kels and Shape team could move votes. They can't move together without outing themselves.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by this? KelsierSC and Shapelog were presumably MIA and couldn't vote?On June 27 2019 15:14 Trfel wrote:
I still can't completely discount the possibility of KelsierSC and Pandain being mafia together though?
Alakaslam: (3) eversince, holyflare, Trfel
Shapelog: (2) raynpelikoneet, grackaroni grackaroni
Eversince: (0)grackaroni, eywa-
KelsierSC: (2)Pandain, Jockmcplop, jockmcplop eversince pandain
Grackaroni: (0) Holyflare Jockmcplop Pandain
Raynpelikoneet: (1)Holyflare eywa- eywa-holyflare
Pandain: (0)Eywa-
Not Voting:
Alakaslam
Shapelog
KelsierSC
Who could Pandain vote for, if he's trying to save Alakaslam at all costs? Voting for Shapelog would put Shapelog at three votes, and Alakaslam would still be lynched as he was at three votes first. Voting for raynpelikoneet only puts him at two votes, but there's a chance that he could get Holyflare to switch votes, which would give the raynpelikoneet wagon the best chance of saving Alakaslam. And there wasn't time to try pushing both raynpelikoneet and Shapelog.
I still can't completely discount the possibility of KelsierSC and Pandain being mafia together though?
On June 26 2019 04:28 Pandain wrote:
I would rather lynch rayn than slam.
In the time approaching End of Day, this is the first time that Pandain pushes anyone other than KelsierSC. Note the time, two minutes to End of Day. There's no time to try pushing Shapelog or one of the other wagons. Given the vote count before Pandain's vote switch to raynpelikoneet, as follows:I would rather lynch rayn than slam.
vote count day 1
Alakaslam: (3) eversince, holyflare, Trfel
Shapelog: (2) raynpelikoneet,
Eversince: (0)
KelsierSC: (2)
Grackaroni: (0)
Raynpelikoneet: (1)
Pandain: (0)
Not Voting:
Alakaslam
Shapelog
KelsierSC
Who could Pandain vote for, if he's trying to save Alakaslam at all costs? Voting for Shapelog would put Shapelog at three votes, and Alakaslam would still be lynched as he was at three votes first. Voting for raynpelikoneet only puts him at two votes, but there's a chance that he could get Holyflare to switch votes, which would give the raynpelikoneet wagon the best chance of saving Alakaslam. And there wasn't time to try pushing both raynpelikoneet and Shapelog.
Kels and Shape team could move votes. They can't move together without outing themselves.
m!Pand switches off Slam, m!Kels pulls off Slam. Your entire team just got dedicated to moving the lynch off Slam. Town lynches one of you. Even with a town on the wagon, hard to put the rest together?
(I'm bad at analisis so excuse me if I come off at short, please I don't mean too.)
the thing imo is that there is no information to be gained from a town lynch on D1. Literally. Whoever claims otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Had town lynched let's say me, they cannot still know if my reads are good or not (usually the reads are not believed because if they were why would you lynch me in the first place if my reads are good?). Noone can know if the people who switched are town or mafia and if they can explain their motivation reasonably, you have no way telling if they were jsut wrong or if they are mafia.
TLDR; it doesn't really matter if your team dedicates onto a town lynch D1, especially since the game is 8v3 which makes it D3 lylo. It's better to just keep town in the dark (aka lynch townies) that to try get credit bussing your teammates because otherwise you might get caught some other day.
Yes but assuming you have a bunch of mia scum friends suddenly show up to move there vote and then town catches you? You're fucked.
Kelsier hadn't voted at all, it's expected he comes in and votes as town and as mafia regardless of which faction he represents. If he can be around that is.
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