From scum QT"Kill regfan"
Thats genuinely annoying!
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Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 00:23 GMT
#2735
From scum QT"Kill regfan" Thats genuinely annoying! | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 00:43 GMT
#2741
On July 01 2018 01:11 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler [1] + On June 30 2018 20:53 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + sigh this is legit about hfOn June 27 2018 23:49 Calix wrote: On June 27 2018 23:42 Holyflare wrote: Why am I not being scum read? :D Talking to me? I am assuming you're asking why I'm not calling you mafia despite your play somewhat matching what I think mafia does, I don't think you not doing much on D1 means anything other than you being busy because you're more than capable of curb-stomping the thread towards my mislynch if you really wanted to. I haven't properly read your filter but I remember one moment where it looked like you were preparing to attack Mocsta and then you saw a post from him and said "nah" and it looked kinda townie to me. Because you gave yourself the opportunity to go after someone and try and get them lynched while disturbing the 'town circle' and looking like you're doing something. And you didn't take it. Also because you're not D1 lynch material and you haven't really done anything scummy to make me change my mind so I'm fine to let you do whatever for the time being. So yeah. Like as mafia he really had no need to drop his read on me No need at all I still would have thought he would be biting onto something at this point of the game though. + Show Spoiler [2] + On June 30 2018 21:32 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + can you please review the posts and conclusion i made on calixOn June 30 2018 21:23 Holyflare wrote: I should be the easiest mislynch to push, dunno why nobody is pushing it hard. I would like your opinion + Show Spoiler [3] + On June 30 2018 22:23 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + im not going to be around lynchOn June 30 2018 22:18 Koshi wrote: On June 30 2018 22:14 Mocsta wrote: Koshi How does conversion work if you believe shockee is town? Like maybe i shouldnt rely on heuristics at eod2 but if copcake was scum. I expect rayn to have clued in by now. And frankly. I find her too polarising ti be scum. Bkg committment to do that thrkughtout the whole game. Why wouldnt it work? And I do not believe shockey is town. His filter is just okay. But conversion filter is way worse. Dont say things I never said. Why you people do this I will never understand. Shockey and conversion are 2 different playerd who both can be mafia or town. The only persons who cannot be mafia together are Calix and Shockeyy. Or they are insanely bussing. Which is possible. Because everything is possible. Vote people who have highest chamce to be mafia and go from there = thx My focus is to put a vote on whom i think is scum and whom will get traction I refuse to vote calix and could do 1 of shockee or conversion. My preferred was shockee cos i think it clears calix and should make game easier to resolve + Show Spoiler [4] + On June 30 2018 22:36 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + regardless, its disappointing you havrnt reevaluated your position on conversion.On June 30 2018 22:28 CopCake wrote: Dude it is 6:28 here, I was having breakfast. And Koshi are you saying I am mafia, right? We know tt and boxer were town. Calix is likely town. So whats the big deal concersion didnt want to swap. He was on town lynch no matter what. Again this highlights shockeey for me. + Show Spoiler [5] + On June 30 2018 22:58 Mocsta wrote: Im so confused i cant even sheep Like the conversion vote is only scummy if shockee is town which fucks up all my pairings Actual Show nested quote + On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. Edit for my world Show nested quote + i find it so hard to believe that copcake is townOn June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. Voting tells me Shoxkee is town Concersion koshi holyflare is mafia + Show Spoiler [6] + On June 30 2018 23:04 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + Realisitically yoy are town in my eyesOn June 30 2018 23:01 CopCake wrote: On June 30 2018 22:58 Mocsta wrote: Im so confused i cant even sheep Like the conversion vote is only scummy if shockee is town which fucks up all my pairings Actual On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. Edit for my world On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: i find it so hard to believe that copcake is townFinal Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. Voting tells me Shoxkee is town Concersion koshi holyflare is mafia I am not town? However calix is absolutely lock town for me going forward which is whh i coliured her green Maybe it is as simple as TSM is the 3rd scum because teams just seem odd + Show Spoiler [7] + On June 30 2018 23:16 Mocsta wrote: If shockee and convo scum. Its a stupid bus If convo scum and shoxk toen. The hammer makes nk sense as all wagons were town and he didnt have to move + Show Spoiler [8] + On June 30 2018 23:28 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + actually.On June 30 2018 23:24 CopCake wrote: I take more in consideration actions than words tbh. I cant see a mafia last minute voting shockey if they see that boxerfred is getting majority and there is no way mafia would know vivax voted last second. I am gonna re check that and see the order of the last 4 votes to be pretty and absolutly clear of that in case I am missing another possible universe. I feel like a clumsy dr. Strange. The only benefit as sfum would be so he can shit on the boxerfred wagon. This ONLY is possible if shockee is town Ironically this is what convo has been doing though + Show Spoiler [9] + On June 30 2018 23:31 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + i dont want to believe it but i dont see what other choixes there areOn June 30 2018 23:25 CopCake wrote: On June 30 2018 23:23 Mocsta wrote: On June 30 2018 23:19 Conversion wrote: I don’t understand why people are focusing on me switching from TT to shockeyy and not the 4 people who switched to an irrelevant noinfo lynch and looking for scum there. does everyone here seriously think that was a pure town wagon? At least 3 of the 4 voters i bekieve is town I said my reasons. I cant help it yoy are so (personally) against it If you believe this then HF is mafia with this comment? It is really annoying TSM acknowledged he knew about the game and would come back and hasnt Not annoying because it blocks finding scum but it makea the team combos frustrating + Show Spoiler [10] + On June 30 2018 23:37 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2018 07:21 Koshi wrote: On June 28 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote: On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote: Why is TT townIf I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit. big claims, need some dot points br0 Not surw if you can read. This post still annoys me B4 that the only thing on tt is Show nested quote + On June 27 2018 23:10 Koshi wrote: Ended up reading TT and think we should vote Vivax over Calix. I'll still follow rayn but Vivax looks worse from what I read. + Show Spoiler [11] + On June 30 2018 23:39 Mocsta wrote: D1 Show nested quote + On June 28 2018 07:16 Koshi wrote: Reading schockeyy I am ok with him dieing over TT. The betrayel is real but schockeyy is either bad town or mafia. TT is actually playing. ##unvote Vote schockeyy D2 Show nested quote + On June 30 2018 21:14 Koshi wrote: There is nothing in Shockeys filter that makes him mafia. Maybe it is too clean.. blah blah. He makes a lot of posts that solely imply he is town though. Saw like 4 of them easily. Who is lynch nr 3? + Show Spoiler [12] + On June 30 2018 23:41 Mocsta wrote: Koshi > hf = shockee One problem i have with scum koshi is why noy keep town shock as a mislynch this cycle + Show Spoiler [13] + On June 30 2018 23:42 Mocsta wrote: Im going to bed in 10 though and dont want to throw away my vote Thats my preference but will sheeo yoy for consolidation. Where to? + Show Spoiler [14] + On July 01 2018 00:17 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + ok lets do itOn July 01 2018 00:16 CopCake wrote: On July 01 2018 00:13 Conversion wrote: I’m going to be unavailable soon until 1 hour to 30 minutes before EoD, which is why I’m stating how this game is going to go aince we have Koshi and HF on me and apparently they can type by bashing their head against a keyboard and people won’t lynch them. Calix you’re being way too stubborn when I’m trying to work with you on alternative lynches and I’m listening to Cop and Mocsta, but if you’re just going to push me until the end of day 2, we can fight until one of us flips. Your unwillingness to work with me and just paint me red is not something that’s giving me confidence that you are town. ;-; I am up for a HF And i go to bed I highly doubt i will be here at deadline ##vote: holyflare 1. HF IS TOWN "Sigh, this is so town hf because no agenda!" 2. I want HF's opinion on these posts because I respect it and I just read him town. 3. I will vote who I think is mafia. Won't vote Calix, will vote shockeyy and conversion. Shockeyy preferably. 4. Shockeyy is mafia. Conversion's swap is no big deal. 5. Conversion is town. Conversion is only scummy if shockeyy is town. Voting tells me shockeyy is town and Koshi/HF/Conversion(????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????) is mafia. Can't also believe cop is town, looks mafia(??) 6. Cop is now town. Calix is lock town. Maybe slender is mafia. 7. Pointless logic loops. 8. Maybe if he's mafia he did it to shit on the bf wagon. Oh, wait, he did do that. 9. slenderman whining 10. Koshi correctly guessed TT's alignment and it bugs me. 11. These are not contentious points because they can both be applicable. 12. Koshi is now the biggest scum read with HF and Shockeyy being the next biggest???????? 13. Don't want to throw away my vote. I'll sheep copcake who I have complained about her logic the entire game and whined that none of her cases make sense. 14. Oh, yeah, I'll throw away my vote on holyflare who I have mentioned 0 times why he is mafia and even called him basically definitely town just 10 posts ago. Even though he has 0 votes. Just because copcake said so. Look at point 5. Then point 8. Point 5 gives Mocsta a mafia team of Conversion/Koshi/HF Point 8 he says points that would make Conversion mafia even though he just said votes make Conversion mafia. Point 12 says Koshi now somehow ends up being the biggest scum read WHEN KOSHI VOTED ON SHOCKEYY. I am also somehow on this list AFTER HE CALLED ME TOWN. If he doesn't acknowledge conversion is mafia because of votes then why the fuck do Koshi and I suddenly become mafia? The answer is because he changes his reads arbitrarily based on who he is talking to to blend in with sentiment. Do you remember what he said about 90% of cop's posts? That he couldn't follow them or they didn't make sense. Yet, who does he now sheep? You got it, Cop. Hi HF, now I know you are town I will do the courtesy of pointing out a couple reasons why this is invalid (besides role PM ;P) (1) You are referencing different conclusions presented as scummy; yet, fail to consider they are drawn from different sources (1 was my interpretation of VCA, and the other being my interpretation of in-thread events). (2) I can accept you taking issue with point 12 but thats not a reason to vote someone. Further, your evidence for point 11 clearly explains why point 12 is a vaid position by me to take. (3) As for sheeping cop, I made it abundantly clear I wouldnt be around before the lynch, and most likely during the lynch. The only reason I would be around deadlines on a weekend, is if the kids wake up early. Like 3am early. Again, I am under the most pressure out of anyone to place a vote that means something which should actually be town as fuck. In hindsight, its clear this is written from a tunneled perspective; but with my knowledge at the time, you had been calling me town all game (which is reversible to me as well) so this came across to me as fake. Lessons for both of us. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 00:49 GMT
#2742
On July 04 2018 09:41 Calix wrote: In this game, some people should take blame for signing up with known future committments.On the matter of inactivity, I honestly don't think you can regulate for it. My old site used to be active with lots of engaged players. Then it slowly became more inactive until minimum posting, unexplained reads and the like became the norm. No amount of bans, rule changes, discussions, etc, changed this overall trend. I think the same thing is happening with TL Mafia where you're having the problem of "the playerbase is small so if the rules are too harsh then there won't be enough players because they would all be banned for inactivity/ bad behaviour. But if we don't punish people for those things then the bad quality of games will drive away players." If a solution exists to this problem then I have yet to find it. e.g. as town, would Koshi have posted more? I honestly hope not, enjoy that fuckn holiday dude and dont sign up. however, i think equally there are people that have genuine intent to play the game with a committment of 2hrs a day MAXIMUM. when you have people with 25page filter in a 13p game; you can barely read the thread with 2hrs, let alone form a decision opinino. If you inject those half-formed thoughts into the thread, you get shit on for being mafia ;P. This is a long winded way of saying , its not necessarily about post minimum, but having a post MAXIMUM Then town has to have the courage to lynch people that intentionally spam to the post maximum whilst delivering nothing of value. In some ways, I may prefer a game where the first 24hrs nominated 3 people for lynch. Then the second 24hrs forces a vote only within those 3 ( or no-lynch). Maybe I should host a theme game doing this? | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 03:44 GMT
#2746
The "dumb bitch" comment was directed at me, yet, I am also a recipient of being too nice for TL lol Which is it! For the record, I did apologise that the behaviour was not necessary or acceptable. On June 29 2018 12:47 Mocsta wrote: [..] its ok, i've calmed down somewhat. i do apologise for those outburts, not that it is acceptable in the first place. [..] You should play Adam and show us by example how to be more diplomatic. Perhaps in the game I may be hosting soon ;P | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 04:05 GMT
#2752
Perhaps you are not directly solely at me; however, if you were, I firmly believe being marginalized for that over other sins people occurring on each and every TL-mafia game is a rubbish position to take. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 11:30 GMT
#2762
Haha thanks for compliment b4. You gonna critque my game concept in active games thread, please? I would like to start sign ups ASAP | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 11:31 GMT
#2763
On July 01 2018 07:55 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + dont forgetOn July 01 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: Bugger wasnt meant to post Phone slipped Thats where im at Hf is scum for because game has devolved since boxerfred lynch Hf was there near eod1 when i asked for catch up and did nothing which is so uncharacteristic for him Im suspecting shockee is scum ehich is why hf created boxer xounter. He was prob never jntending to stay on it but the opportunity fell his way nrcause of me. This cleara conversiin who is the inky person i am ok with to gote me. I mean all game hf has been hesitant to call me mafia. Nkw im afk and strikes. So hf / shockee and i wont bother #3 as slendy hasnt posted. Guys good luck Im disappointed i xouldnt stick to bow i played thr furst 24hrs. I never caught up from eod2 and should have stopped posting. Sorry. In some ways i derserve the mislynch. Vote hf or shockee next pls. Gonna enjoy time with the kids now. Bye And dont forget about koshi Now byebye I wont claim this as anything given how quickly i disbanded it in the obsqt lolprob more out of butthurt haha | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 22:15 GMT
#2776
On July 05 2018 06:52 Holyflare wrote: Thats a legitimate point.It's also really annoying you said I played badly when my list post was 100% correct for my town reads after the BF lynch which you heavily criticised. Any read I wavered on was largely because you kept repeating I was trash and how correct you were. Rayn had town cred D1, and this was amplified on D2 because of the medic claim. As the game dragged on, Rayn was absent more and more; yet continuing to push his reads into the thread as the defacto leader. Man.. tough game. As i mentioned before, I wouldnt lynch Boxerfred again for two reasons: (1) I think a lot of the neck-wrangling didnt start because of mafia; rather, it had to do with the ethics of Boxerfred. Pople like Conversion and Copcake had genuine personal issues with this lynch and struggled to compute the mindset was from town (ironically all 4 voters); and in this game, conversion/copcake were critical for voting block adhesion. (2) People needed closure on the Day1 lynch that was based on people having a strong scum read, not some randomised crap shoot. I hate to say it, but if Calix was lynched Day1, I think a lot of the town group could mentally move forward and consider other options. I still think this was a great game.. i mean.. 130+pages and no mafia lynched.. what an effort regardless of whether town was on the brink of being able to solve it. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 22:20 GMT
#2779
On July 05 2018 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: You did 2 me ; and in my world at that time, that was all that mattered Show nested quote + On July 05 2018 07:15 Mocsta wrote: On July 05 2018 06:52 Holyflare wrote: Thats a legitimate point.It's also really annoying you said I played badly when my list post was 100% correct for my town reads after the BF lynch which you heavily criticised. Any read I wavered on was largely because you kept repeating I was trash and how correct you were. Rayn had town cred D1, and this was amplified on D2 because of the medic claim. I think both of these points are not good. I didn't have town credit D1. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 23:04 GMT
#2782
On July 05 2018 07:44 Holyflare wrote: Like, its the same thing with me though. Whilst what you say is an absolutely true opinion, the ability to play mafia with no reads is SO EASY no one wants to be bamboozled against it! I don't think I'd ever have no mafia reads as mafia. Certainly wouldn't push modkills for lynch lol. EGO sux | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 04 2018 23:33 GMT
#2787
On July 05 2018 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Please re-direct that post-game energy into assisting me with some 13p balanced setups for "max post cap" mafia :0Show nested quote + On July 04 2018 20:05 Holyflare wrote: Also this game would have gone very differently if Rayn couldn't self heal (which is the norm). This game could still be going "differently" if some retards hadnt modkilled themselves.... Something balanced that has a slight difference to it that hasnt been seen in a bit to spark some creativity across either alignment. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 05 2018 00:19 GMT
#2790
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Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 05 2018 01:09 GMT
#2792
On July 05 2018 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: are you on the juice or something?Yes no one was defended, i was actually asking for your genuine feedback on the game I am hosting. anyways, I am thinking of spicing it up and going with a themed "JK9++" just to do something different | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
July 05 2018 05:26 GMT
#2797
Lemme help ya http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/535177-n-max-post-cap-mafia | ||
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