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On May 30 2018 11:46 fuba wrote: It occurs to me that not behaving exactly like HF would in a given scenario might not make you scum :o
What do you mean with this?
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On June 01 2018 03:53 fuba wrote: My two scum are DF and HF, but mostly from a paranoia POV. I'm not entirely sure of it, and generally from my way of scumhunting it's harder to read high-content posters, but I feel like since the moment Jealous was pretty locked in as the lynch, HF's been playing the long game. If DF is scum, then HF was basically able to pull the trigger on one of his scumbuddies D1 without fear and make himself look better in the process (and also making the alternative lynch candidate look townier because they were the counterwagon). He railed against rayn, he railed against GB, he railed against Koshi - either all high content posters who will oppose him or people that had the potential to read him well. People who can oppose his outspoken personality late game. He hasn't gone after (from what I can remember) me, DF, or byj - not sure about LS or Rels - I think they're kinda in the middle. If scum HF is going to survive with a team of himself, Jealous, and DF, he needs to take out those that can oppose him end game and will pursue it to his lynch. He tried to get the doc to protect himself over you, scum tried to take you out last night instead of him. He's not really trying to get other people to post more than they are - he's settling on high content posters and, if he's town, just kind of assuming the low content posters are town for no reason.
DF is kinda there as an afterthought and somewhat because of what I said yesterday. His spot could be filled by someone else - dunno who though. And I'm kind of locked in the thought of HF choosing between which of his two scum mates to hammer D1.
Okay.
This would make byj, rels and LS town. Why could they be town, especially LS?
If one of those two scumreads of yours flips town, then who would be mafia?
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On June 01 2018 03:57 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:On May 30 2018 11:46 fuba wrote: It occurs to me that not behaving exactly like HF would in a given scenario might not make you scum :o What do you mean with this? It was mostly a comment on HF's apparent stubbornness, and the fact that Koshi not behaving exactly how HF says he would have might not have been a valid reason to vote him.
Fine, got it.
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Why are you so dodgy about your reads, LS?
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On June 01 2018 04:01 fuba wrote: HF is a player who posts too much for me to feel comfortable with a read on him based on what he actually says, so I look at his actions in the context of the goings-on of the game, and it doesn't feel like a "town HF looking for scum" agenda - it looks like a "scum HF rooting out his competition so he can make it to endgame" agenda.
It's also likely that if he fights me on the read, I will not engage - I don't have the energy for prolonged discussions.
I 100% agree with this
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On June 01 2018 04:07 LightningStrike wrote: ##Vote: LightningStrike Decided it's time to do this.
If you're town I'm never playing with you again
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Like, this is the whinest someone can get while playing mafia.
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##Unvote ##Vote: LightningStrike
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On June 01 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:07 GlowingBear wrote: Why are you so dodgy about your reads, LS? Just lynch me.
I am doing it.
I'm never supporting this kind of behaviour. I prefer to lose the game if you're town. And if you're mafia, I get one step closer to victory.
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It's a shame, though. I'm having fun trying to solve day1.
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Fuba, I like your recent posts but I have a hard time believing in some things you say. Here are my problems with your play:
1) You said that Koshi came to thread as genuine town, but voted him day1, and kept you vote on him when Jealous was the counterwagon, and you admitted Jealous was okay as a police lynch? I couldn't find a post where you scumread Koshi, so I don't understand what happened there.
2) After the day1 lynch, you never mentioned Koshi. Your vote on him looks was a survival vote. I feel it looks bad, if I'm town I'm not voting a townread over me, I'll try to convince people until the very end that my target is the best lynch, or I would get lynched.
Care to explain these two points?
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On June 01 2018 04:21 LightningStrike wrote:You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 08:04 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Final Vote Count Jealous [3]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, GlowingBear, Holyflare Koshi [2]: fuba, Holyflare, LightningStrikedarthfoley [2]: Rels, GlowingBear Grackaroni [1]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj, Holyflarebyj [1]: JealousHolyflare [0]: raynpelikoneetLightningStrike [0]: byjraynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflarefuba [0]: GlowingBearNot Voting [0]: Jealous is the lynch.
The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, you can speak up now before I post the flip ^^ This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case.
How do you know mafia hold their shot? Care to explain?
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On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote: Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<
And what was your conclusion?
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On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote: Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.
If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum?
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On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote: Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum? Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well.
Wouldn't it be way too scummy?
I mean, wouldn't scum fake being worried?
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I need a game where you were mafia, LS. I need to check your meta Can you point me to one?
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On June 01 2018 04:41 byj wrote: ##Vote: fuba
What somewhat bothers me is that, if fuba really was town, he didn't get lynched. In that case Mafia probably would've had an easy time to get me lynched considering many people seem to be suspicious of me. That would allow them to be 1 step from victory, and maybe help them with a later Koshi lynch. If both fuba and Koshi were town I see no reason for them to choose Koshi.
Koshi was an easier lynch because he was already a day1 wagon. Mafia just have to pile up on him with townies. And if fuba is town then they were playing really safe day2 and could just let the lynch happen.
So your argument doesn't make fuba mafia.
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Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before????
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On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote: Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).
But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?
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On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote: GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.
I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.
I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.
I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.
Here are my problems with you:
1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?
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