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On October 24 2016 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I don't really think Skynx is mafia anymore. ##Unvote ##Vote GlowingBear
The fire rises.
<3
Won't work, tho. I'm not playing because I simply don't have the time :/
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On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.
So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.
2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.
3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.
4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.
5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?
6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.
7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.
8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.
9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.
10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.
I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter.
If you skim my filter you'll notice I'm out of time Also, recent meta shows that you're wrong. I don't have meta. That's a fact
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Btw I've just noticed iamp ignored me He's mafia.
I'm voting you iamp
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On October 24 2016 10:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.
So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.
2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.
3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.
4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.
5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?
6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.
7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.
8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.
9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.
10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.
I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter. If you skim my filter you'll notice I'm out of time Also, recent meta shows that you're wrong. I don't have meta. That's a fact you disappoint me
Noooo Next year I'll have more time to play this game well
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Pretty sure iamp is mafia, actually
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On October 24 2016 11:07 iamperfection wrote: wtf your actually voting me...........................................................................
I think my reasoning is pretty solid
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On October 24 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote:Considering we all have skills, wasting our actions to simply deal damage to people we think are "useless" is scummy. If you have, I don't know, 4 skills, and you use your base damage day1 and night1, you're just trying to remove town from the game. You're not actually acting towards uncovering people's alignment.
That's my reasoning, sensei
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On October 24 2016 11:14 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Why is it important? Considering we all have skills, wasting our actions to simply deal damage to people we think are "useless" is scummy. If you have, I don't know, 4 skills, and you use your base damage day1 and night1, you're just trying to remove town from the game. You're not actually acting towards uncovering people's alignment. That's my reasoning, sensei The level of nope i feel reading this is astonishing
You can't undersand my reasoning?
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Tell me why I'm wrong, then
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On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead?
The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you.
I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that.
Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already?
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On October 24 2016 12:45 ritoky wrote: gb, why are you more interested in being right than convincing people why iamp is scum?
Because being right means iamp is scum I don't understand your question
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On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why I'm wrong, then because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead? The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you. I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that. Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already? oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting.
? You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here
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On October 24 2016 13:31 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 13:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote:On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why I'm wrong, then because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead? The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you. I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that. Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already? oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting. ? You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here yeah but my abilities only unlock as the game progresses like the example role pm yours dont.........?
I could choose between 2 skills
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On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think.
Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion:
LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth
If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town.
Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait.
You're basically calling scum every lurker.
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Wtf how am I not playinf the game, I'm postibg here every couple if hours and I already gave reads I'VE got.
I'm not being useless, I'm giving bits of information every time.
I already said I think ptmc is town. I now think Artanis is town based on meta - I don't think this is the way he plays as mafia, he is not too try hard and he is not accusing people and sticking to that argument without rethinking them. His approach on me looks pretty townie IMO. I also think Koshi might be town, his posts seems very fluid with not so much thought put on them.
Ritoky is a question mark. He doesn't seem very interested into solving the game. Could be mafia.
Acrofales was very invested in the game, but his efforts kinda dropped. He was (or is) one of the most active players in the game, but I don't see him putting effort into actually having his targets lynched. Yes, I know Vivax is getting lynched, but I don't remember him being thoughtful about the future cycles.
Iamp may be town and I can be paranoid, but I think I have a solid argument on him being town.
I haven't read Skynx's post with much attention but I have a gut feeling he could be mafia. I can't explain why. It's a feeling.
That's all I have for now
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Oh and I'm okay with WoS, might be town I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia
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On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx
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Wait, today is a double lynch?
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On October 25 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Supposedly koshi's ability kills the second person in the tally or it deals damage based on votes or something
Oh we should definetly form a second wagon, shouldn't we?
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On October 25 2016 05:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 05:49 GlowingBear wrote:On October 25 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On October 25 2016 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, today is a double lynch? Supposedly koshi's ability kills the second person in the tally or it deals damage based on votes or something Oh we should definetly form a second wagon, shouldn't we? Have you opened the vote thread at all?
Just did
Btw I'm rethinking ritoky. He may be mafia, after all. I think I'll check his fikter by the night
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